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I guess it was inevitable that it would happen, should Friday come and go without any further update on the progress of the club’s sale, even with the salt taken on the speculation of a proposed ‘meet’ about the sale.

And so it would seem some of us have had quite enough of sitting around waiting and the NUSC have put together a new campaign.

They are urging Mike Ashley, to do what they see as the right thing for the sake of the club’s short term future. The ‘right thing’ in their eyes is to appoint Alan Shearer as manager.

NUSC spokesman, Colin Whittle, had this to say:

“The time has come to show the outside world that the supporters of Newcastle United are ready to move on and get behind the club. We believe that the appointment of Alan Shearer would send out a massive signal to potential buyers and, most importantly, the fans, who have so far been ignored.
 
“We all want the club to progress and the idea behind the Trust is that we will be a representative body for the supporters that can work with the club for the future benefit of the club and the supporters.

 “At the moment, a fans’ buyout is not a realistic possibility, but in the medium term we would like to be able to create substantial funding to buy into the club.

“We have been approached by a number of individuals who are looking to invest – individuals who can’t buy the club outright but who have sufficient funds to buy into it – with the very long-term aim of fan ownership of the club.”

The NUSC has been ridiculed by some sections of the NUFC fan-base because it was apparent that they originally had no direction or organisation. It was felt that it was a knee-jerk and foolhardy reaction which had the likelihood of making matters worse. Other more sympathetic fans, saw that at least NUSC was attempting to do something for the sake of the club. However, more recently their press has improved and arguably they have much more support. Evidenced by the comments on the ever-popular nufc.com website and from spokespersons from popular fanzines and independent supporter groups.

Predictably, some fans have been quick to condemn the actions of the group suggesting that it will merely bring more bad press. They suggest that this will also demonstrate that the fans expect to have too much say in matters and imply an insular and arrogant attitude.

Personally, I see it a different way. I would suggest that there are many capable managers out there, however, I’d also argue that given the timescales involved it would be extremely difficult for them to make an immediate impact. I think it’s crucial because of the precarious position we’re in that an immediate impact is made. Alan Shearer was in the mix for a good few games at the end of that last awful season. He’s seen just what state the club is in. In addition, his ‘team’ of backroom staff have also seen at close quarters just what needs to be done to bring this club back from the dead. He has connections, both tangible and emotionally to this club. That isn’t a pre-requisite but it certainly helps in my opinion.

Looking at the short time he was in charge, the stats don’t really show him in the best light but given the circumstances, I think the ‘immediate impact’ I’m looking for, just wasn’t possible last season and the slide was inevitable. I think with a fresh start he would get us firing and heading in the right direction. The Championship will be challenging but with the right support, Shearer will steer us up and not down. Of course the longer he’s left out of the loop, the bigger the challenge becomes.

Provided the NUSC and a collective of intelligent and sensible fans can make this point amiably and in a constructive manner, then I think it can only be a good thing. Ashley has been accused of listening too much to the fans. I believe that’s very debatable and conversely this is one time they might be better served taking heed of the warning. If they can keep the bedsheets in the drawers, the rabble at the local park with their bottles of 20/20 and missing teeth and ears then a point being made is better for their sanity than sitting sweating on proceedings in my opinion. Patience is all well and good and inevitably recognised that it’s a virtue not many NUFC fans are necessarily blessed with, particularly younger generations. While I’d distance myself from any ‘protest’, I can relate to wanting to do something rather than nothing.

With the 1st of July rolling around and no further announcements of progress, this group or groups are right to be concerned. Why Shearer can’t be installed even on a part-time basis or at least we can’t be informed as to the reason why he can’t be, has left many of us bewildered.

Either way, I was taught not to stamp my feet when I wanted something as a kid. NUSC et al are being accused of that very thing but we’re all big kids when it comes to NUFC and I can appreciate why they’re doing it, even if it all gets them is sore feet and a clip round the lug off their detractors. Should those people wanting to buy back into the club financially and emotionally be put on the naughty step for their desires?

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108 Responses

  1. no matter what nusc may say the simple fact is ashley is not about to appoint a manager and no manager will be in until the club is sold, god knows when that will happen

  2. “The NUSC has been ridiculed by some sections of the NUFC fan-base because it was apparent that they originally had no direction or organisation.”

    Bowburn, it’s also obvious that they still have no clue what they are talking about either. They are basing campaigns on tabloid speculation, and also telling potential purchasers that they may be agitating for a slice of the club at some stage in the future. These things won’t be received positively by prospective buyers when they hear of it, and could potentially affect a sale.

    Sheffield Wednesday, another great, historic club with a big stadium, which has fallen on hard times in the Championship have been looking for a new buyer, or controlling investor for over a year now, and they’re only £30 million. We really don’t need the prating and the interference of the NUSC at the moment.

  3. NUSC are only interested in bingo and pie and pea suppers. I was tempted to shell out £10 to join and I’m so glad I didn’t. I think the only people who stick up for them are the people who have had the misfortune to have stumped up their hard earned cash.
    I really don’t get the whole “THE OWNER MUST COMMUNICATE WITH THE FANS ON A DAILY BASIS AND TELL US EVERY SINGLE MINUTE DETAIL OF WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE CLUB OR WE WILL BURN HIS HOUSE DOWN, EAT HIS DOG AND KICK HIS SON IN THE NUTS!!!!!” attitude. You don’t see the owners of other clubs being held to account, I don’t see why we are so different.

  4. Quote from Hughton:

    “Everything will be done properly with the group of players that is there,” he said. “Everything going on outside of that has to stay outside of it.

    “Whatever the situation will be, when it comes to the first day of pre-season training, the players will go through a good and correct programme for however long it is until someone takes over.

    “The most important thing is that the players get a pre-season under their belts. Everything has to be done properly by the staff and players.”

  5. Good post BBM.

    I actually agree that Shearer is the best candidate for manager at the moment. I wouldn’t go mad if someone else was appointed, but I think the things Shearer could bring to the club now, in our current situation and after the unsettled season we’ve just had, make him a good choice.

    I cannot agree that the NUSC ‘foot-stamping’ exercise is of any benefit at all though. It cannot possibly achieve anything useful; it can only be either pointless or damaging. I think they would be better doing nothing, maintaining their credibility and saving any ‘fan action’ for a time when it might make a difference.

  6. I think they’re just trying to get themselves some publicity.
    What bit of Llambias’s statement“(We will not be making any decision on Alan as manager, that is not up to us, that is down to the groups who are buying the club. If they want to appoint him, then it’s up to them. We will speak to them about it. If they do want Alan then something could be done in the next few days. That’s where we are at this stage and everything is on going” June 16th) don’t they understand?

    In addition ”At the moment, a fans’ buyout is not a realistic possibility, but in the medium term we would like to be able to create substantial funding to buy into the club.

    “We have been approached by a number of individuals who are looking to invest – individuals who can’t buy the club outright but who have sufficient funds to buy into it – with the very long-term aim of fan ownership of the club.”

    When the club is currently being sold, why would any new owners want to hear this sort of stuff? Can you imagine any serious businessmen with loads of cash contacting the NUSC to discuss plans with them to invest in the club? Keep taking your medication boys.

  7. deb – I think there’s an implication in that full statement (a part you didn’t include) – “There could be some movement regarding Alan Shearer at the end of this week or early next week.”

    That was on the 16th of June.

    That to me is still fairly vague but implies we could know one way or another. And yet we don’t. There’s justification to say we could probably be told whether Shearer will be involved or not. And possibly why. Or else the sale really has stalled and they have no idea? Therefore, it would be an admission that the status of the sale is something which will rile fans anyway? Well, arguably they’re making their own minds up as it is. It can only surely be a legal or regulatory constraint that’e preventing any word on the matter?

    I’m not really a massive fan of NUSC but I have to go against the grain of consensus on this one, even though I generally agree with most of you guys on most other things. My slant probably isn’t as pro-‘campaign’ as I’ve ended up writing it but I think the NUSC get a lot of grief for being passionate and ultimately probably just a bit naive. I see them as having genuine intentions for the club and it’s supporters. Then again perhaps it’s me being naive and soft in my opinion of them. The ‘foot-stamping’ I mentioned is unlikely to do anything but I can appreciate why some people are at that stage.

    The ‘buying in to the club’ is possibly a realistic and legitimate goal in my eyes. Providing the right people could get involved and help support them financially and otherwise. If we keep ridiculing them and patronising them, no group of fans would be willing to take the steps to have part fan ownership and that’s something I believe could be a progressive and healthy option rather than a demonstration that as a group of supporters we’re too nosy and a pack of over-involved morons.

  8. BBM,

    “I seem them as having genuine intentions for the club and it’s supporters.”

    That’s probably true.

    “The ‘foot-stamping’ I mentioned is unlikely to do anything but I can appreciate why some people are at that stage.”

    So can I but this exactly where I’d expect the NUSC to take a lead and point out to fans the sheer futility of kicking up any sort of a stink at the moment.

    If there was any way whatsoever that their action could get Shearer appointed I would see the point of what they’re doing (even if I didn’t agree with it), but the old regime simply cannot appoint Shearer right now and the new regime is not yet in a position to appoint him.

    If the buying process progresses significantly enough to give the new regime the power to appoint a manager, I’m sure they will do so. They’ll be spending a lot of money and I’m sure they’ll be as aware as the rest of us that we need a manager and we need to get prepared for next season.

  9. I actually agree with their sentiment, we desperately need a manager but there may be better ways of going about it.

    My biggest fear and probably theirs is that we end up in the same position as last year. We don’t want to be starting the seaon with the club up for sale and another interim manager for god knows how long.

    I really think it would be worse this time as Ashley has quite clearly washed his hands of the club totally now.

    Unless something is sorted soon we are in serious danger of being in a relegation battle AGAIN!

  10. 52times says:
    June 29, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    “Nobody pays attention to my posts because they’re short and to the point.”

    I do, 52, and I have often wondered why your Catalunyan flag is the wrong way round? :-)

  11. I support Northern Ireland and anybody who plays England but I still want the World Cup to come here to boost the NE economy.

  12. beyethegreat – Most meetings are open to nonmembers atm.

    realy i wish i could get there

    worky

    yeah i seen it and if im honest i thought the mackems 1 was better or atleast it would have been if the river tyne bamburgh castle and durham cathedral was in sunderland

    though newcasstle should easily beat the mackem bid st james’ is a miles better stadium and newcastle has 10 times the infastructure of sunderland

  13. I support Northern Ireland and anybody who plays England but I still want the World Cup to come here to boost the NE economy.

    tut tut tut you should support england but never mind also yeah it would be great if both sunderland and newcastle could get it but apparently they are only gonna let 1 north east side host or so i heard

  14. Yeah, like I said the Kingdom of Northumbria. A sovereign country with it’s own language for about 250 years. Then the English invaded, and after that the Normans.

  15. beyethegreat – Why support a country that hate us? St. Georges’ Day may as well be renamed “Neo-Nazi Awareness Day” as they’re the only ones who care about it.

  16. Hm, that image wasn’t showing before worky. That’s the current flag of Northumberland, a sick joke by the English to mock us no doubt.

  17. 52 – I agree with you. It’s unfair to dismiss something you’ve not given a fair trial to. Unless you’ve been to a meeting or meetings, I can’t see how you can make up your mind about them. My assertion is that they intend to represent the purer intentions of NUFC fans. There’s just as much chance I’d go to a meeting and disagree with them of course.

    Hugh – Again I may have implied that I support the ‘foot stamping’. What I’m trying to say is that anything that can help this club is something I’d get behind as you suggested yourself. With some common sense and guidance, maybe it’s not totally futile. ‘Foot stamping’ is unhelpful, channelling it to something purposeful isn’t.

    My interpretation of what Llambias said (or perhaps implied) is that they should be in a position by now to have appointed Shearer on a buyer’s behalf. Unless things have gone really pear-shaped, I don’t know what’s changed. Unless I read it wrong in the first place?

  18. By Geordie, there were a few comments I’d missed by not refreshing!

    H’way it’s getting airl political like hinny.

  19. beyethegreat – Why support a country that hate us? St. Georges’ Day may as well be renamed “Neo-Nazi Awareness Day” as they’re the only ones who care about it.

    well i can tell you that for a fact that no one hates geordies any more than what people hate scousers or mancs or mackems or smoggies or even cockneys

    though i agree about neo nazi awareness day but that should be more reason to celebrate being enlish to make the st georges flag not a sign of racism and or fascism

  20. “well i can tell you that for a fact that no one hates geordies any more than what people hate scousers or mancs or mackems or smoggies or even cockneys”

    That’s why the Everton fans were singing “Cheer up Alan Shearer” during the FA Cup final.

  21. If we can’t make people respect us we should at least make them fear us. A well organised, well armed group of people and a few corpses can send the fear of God into people.

  22. That’s why the Everton fans were singing “Cheer up Alan Shearer” during the FA Cup final.

    realy ? are you sure it wasnt something else

    and even so people take delight in us going down coz were a big club everton fans are jealous that we have spending power and they dont even though they are miles better

  23. I get around the country a bit and, to be fair, I’ve encountered very little hate for Geordies. Occasionally there might be someone who’ll say something a bit off but usually that’s because they everyone who isn’t from their part of the country rather than Geordies specifically.

    I don’t think we should confuse football rivalry with regionalist xenophobia.

  24. 52 times

    ‘If we can’t make people respect us we should at least make them fear us. A well organised, well armed group of people and a few corpses can send the fear of God into people.’

    I know you like your history 52 times so we could bring back gibbets and have the corpses hanging from the Tyne Bridge and other local landmarks..

  25. geordie deb says:
    June 29, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    I know you like your history 52 times so we could bring back gibbets and have the corpses hanging from the Tyne Bridge and other local landmarks.

    ===

    Well, mackems maybe. :)

  26. I get around the country a bit and, to be fair, I’ve encountered very little hate for Geordies. Occasionally there might be someone who’ll say something a bit off but usually that’s because they everyone who isn’t from their part of the country rather than Geordies specifically.

    I don’t think we should confuse football rivalry with regionalist xenophobia

    exactly if any 1 has any right to feel that the rest of the country hates them its scousers (i personally dont mind scousers)every 1 is always going on about thieving jobless scousers even geordies

  27. Hugh

    ‘I know you like your history 52 times so we could bring back gibbets and have the corpses hanging from the Tyne Bridge and other local landmarks.

    ===

    Well, mackems maybe’

    Mackems definetley, they will be the first ones rounded up for display

  28. beyethegreat

    ‘and what would be wrong with that’

    For a global appeal any kind of religious connotations can sometimes be seen as counter productive when it comes to branding and logos

  29. whos after the mackems…………..smoggies ? or you could always round up people who used to support newcastle but now support man u coz they only support teams that win………i hate those people

  30. I’ve always liked the Scouse accent. Yes I meant liked woooooooooooooooooo 52 saying something good about something from outside the north east

    personally i dont mind the scouse accent but the brummie accent is surely universally agreed as the worst accent in britain ?

  31. We should kill people born on Tyneside but who have always supporter Liverpool or any other team for that matter. Who could honestly object to that?

  32. beyethegreat – I only hate bigots who hate us. And fenians but that’s another matter which I won’t get into here. We’ve already gone totally offtopic anyway.

  33. We should kill people born on Tyneside but who have always supporter Liverpool or any other team for that matter. Who could honestly object to that?

    me by that lgoic i would have to support bishop auckland and let me tell you now you dont want the bash after you

  34. West Auckland wrecked my chances of glory in the Durham Challenge Cup 2008 and also wrekced my Great North Run 2008. Bloody Aucklanders. Nice Bishop though, east of there I mean.

  35. according to the bbc it looks like freddie is back in…………….just great………………..

  36. Please say this is a nightmare and I’m about to wake up. This would be the worst possible outcome from the bids. Every time I see his face I see him smirking at the thought of taking over again….. nnnnnooooo!!!

  37. Joseph

    ‘unfortunately its real and the bbc aint exactly known for reporting bullshit’

    Well lets hope there is a fly in the ointment somewhere and he gets usurped at the last minute. It wouldn’t happen to a nicer person!

  38. West Auckland wrecked my chances of glory in the Durham Challenge Cup 2008 and also wrekced my Great North Run 2008. Bloody Aucklanders. Nice Bishop though, east of there I mean.

    im not so sure east of bishop is coundon which is a shit hole and east of coundon is chilton which is posssably the most racist place in the N E

  39. Reading some of the comments elsewhere some our fans are virtually organising a welcoming committee for the potential return of the scrap man as he is ‘a fan”we did alright when Freddy was here’ etc etc. Jesus some people are so naive. Blinded by the bling.

  40. deb – ultimately it shows how bad our plight really is, that so many people are apathetic to the nature and character of Sheperd.

    I’m close like but not quite that desperate just yet.

  41. deb
    i know what you mean some people point out at least he spent money oh hes a fan, doesn’t change the fact hes a parasite who lined his nest with newcastle fans money and lets not forget his comments from the notw thing years ago and above all else the manner in which he treated sir bob and replaced him with f****** souness!

  42. I still do not think FFS will return. Ashley is no mug and he knows he has a bidding war on his hands. Shepherds funds will be limited so i think he will be outmuscled by the other parties.

  43. bowburnmag says:
    June 30, 2009 at 10:51 am

    “deb – ultimately it shows how bad our plight really is, that so many people are apathetic to the nature and character of Sheperd.”

    Freddy’s working on the theory that we Geordies are “mugs” who will turn a blind eye so long as he shows us shiny things which dazzle and excite our primitive senses. Shearer is his shiny “Trojan horse”, and it looks like he is going to be proved right (again). He has considerable backing for his Geordie “dynamic duo” plan.

  44. worky – it is slightly laughable that somebody he publicly humiliated (inadvertently though it was) is now his new best mate and saviour of the town.

    I really don’t like the bloke. It’s quite easy to forget (as I mentioned not long back) when he spouts off about his love for the town. That’s only because we can relate to it but when you go back over the old ground he trod, it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

    We need a new slate, with professional, honest and decent owners. I’m not even that bothered about the clout they bring, even though it’s important. I just want somebody we can reasonably trust not to screw us over and to keep us in the loop now and again.

  45. Worky

    ‘Freddy’s working on the theory that we Geordies are “mugs” who will turn a blind eye so long as he shows us shiny things which dazzle and excite our primitive senses. Shearer is his shiny “Trojan horse”, and it looks like he is going to be proved right (again). He has considerable backing for his Geordie “dynamic duo” plan.’

    Couldn’t agree more. The fact he took us for mugs first time round was bad enough, but to potentially return to repeat it….. AAARRRRGGGGGHHHH

  46. if he is part of a consortium and it is not his money he will not have such a free reign will he?

  47. Ever seen a mackem in Milan says:
    June 30, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    “if he is part of a consortium and it is not his money he will not have such a free reign will he?”

    ESAMIM, what kind of people would get involved in a consortium with Freddy Shepherd though? It doesn’t bear thinking about.

  48. Worky

    ‘Did anyone know the current Prime Minister of Thailand, Abhisit Vejjajiva, is a Geordie?’

    Really interesting Worky. Now if we could just persuade him to sort the mess out at SJP it should be a doddle for him…

  49. BBM

    ‘We need a new slate, with professional, honest and decent owners. I’m not even that bothered about the clout they bring, even though it’s important. I just want somebody we can reasonably trust not to screw us over and to keep us in the loop now and again.’

    Agree. Is it really too much to ask?

  50. geordie deb says:
    June 30, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    “Really interesting Worky. Now if we could just persuade him to sort the mess out at SJP it should be a doddle for him…”

    He has enough on his plate in Thailand, Deb. Shinawatra’s been trying to lead a revolution since he was deposed in a 2006 coup. It’s almost as bad as Newcastle over there! :-)

  51. It seems from some posts on here that I may have judged the NUSC harshly. As I don’t live in the area, perhaps I’m a bit out of touch. Do they do regular press releases in media other than their own website?
    I meant what i said about pie and pea suppers. The last communication I saw from them was about a comedy night they’d organised. To me that isn’t what a supporters club is all about. It should be about having a united, semi-official voice of the fans, instead of letting that football news letter gadgie say his bit everytime NUFC is mentioned. Saying that, I don’t pay a membership, so I don’t really have the right to moan.

  52. Worky

    ‘He has enough on his plate in Thailand, Deb. Shinawatra’s been trying to lead a revolution since he was deposed in a 2006 coup. It’s almost as bad as Newcastle over there!’

    That’s what I mean at least he has the right experience!!

  53. There is going to be an announcement before the end of the week!

    Ashley has agreed to sell the club and is just happy it’s all over with!

  54. geordie deb says:
    June 30, 2009 at 2:10 pm (Edit)

    “That’s what I mean at least he has the right experience!!”

    Well if Thailand is anything to go by, he would probably lead an armed crackdown against the NUSC and anyone found carrying bedsheets, Deb.

  55. Stuart79 says:
    June 30, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    There is going to be an announcement before the end of the week!

    Ashley has agreed to sell the club and is just happy it’s all over with!
    ———————————————————–

    Where did you get this from Stuart?

  56. I knw someone who works closely with Sports Direct.

    He reckons there’s been a few concerns with their business partners re this having a bad effect on the business and their business.

    Ashley was told this and told them it will be over very,very soon.

  57. Just reading through the lines re FFS 60m bid. FFS was a master at controlling the press to his advantage. I suggest this leak is a last minute desperate attempt to influence other bidders as he is out of the running – rumours were he couldnt stump up the 100m to even view the accounts. He may well be trying to lower the bid price so he can get in on the action – I will be a happy man if he falls flat on his face.

  58. Stardust

    Would Ashley be so stupid to fall for that?

    I mean he doesn’t know how to run a football club but he ain’t thick!

    Also Keith Harris has already stated that potential buyers had to prove they had at the very least the purchase price amount so he probably isn’t even in the frame….

  59. I’d still be surprised if Freddy can get the cash, but the press reports have made me nervous (particularly from the BBC, who usually won’t post things until they’re sure).

  60. Workyticket

    ‘Well if Thailand is anything to go by, he would probably lead an armed crackdown against the NUSC and anyone found carrying bedsheets, Deb.’

    Sounds perfect then!

  61. Stuart
    “Would Ashley be so stupid to fall for that?

    I mean he doesn’t know how to run a football club but he ain’t thick!”

    If I am right its not influence on Ashley he is lamely trying, he is trying to influence the other bidders.

    Time will tell I suppose.

  62. Beye, no idea what sales have actually been like but there was *speculation* that many fans wouldn’t commit until they knew how the club sale/Shearer situation would pan out.

  63. well it looks as though there arent gonna be too many seaqts taken up

    realy they should extend the deadline as not many wanna invest in the unknown

  64. beyethegreat says:
    June 30, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    “well it looks as though there arent gonna be too many seaqts taken up

    realy they should extend the deadline as not many wanna invest in the unknown”

    I’m sure that orders for the fetching new “change” kit will be going well anyway.

    Is all this “best supporters in the country”, “will support you ever more / through thick and thin” etc just empty rhetoric then?

  65. Totally off topic but just been watching ‘Look North’ and interesting feature on the independent record shop of the year and the big revival of vinyl LP’s and singles etc.. takes me back

  66. geordie deb says:
    June 30, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    “Totally off topic but just been watching ‘Look North’ and interesting feature on the independent record shop of the year and the big revival of vinyl LP’s and singles etc.. takes me back”

    It’s still the present for me, Deb. I still have more vinyl than anything else. I despise mp3s and other compressed download formats because the sound quality is so awful.

  67. What do you reckon the chances are of NUFC getting back to be being a football club over the next year or so?

    I really am desperate for it!

  68. Worky

    ‘It’s still the present for me, Deb. I still have more vinyl than anything else. I despise mp3s and other compressed download formats because the sound quality is so awful.’

    You certainly can’t beat the quality and the authenticity aspect.

  69. Stuart 79

    ‘What do you reckon the chances are of NUFC getting back to be being a football club over the next year or so?’

    If depends. If the new owner is the scrap man the circus will continue and we have zero chance.

  70. geordie deb says:
    June 30, 2009 at 8:01 pm
    Stuart 79

    ‘What do you reckon the chances are of NUFC getting back to be being a football club over the next year or so?’

    If depends. If the new owner is the scrap man the circus will continue and we have zero chance.

    I know you don’t like FFS but isn’t it his cousin who is the scrap man?

    I’m not too sure it’s him. Don’t want him doing you for slander now do we?

  71. Stuart79 says:
    June 30, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    “I know you don’t like FFS but isn’t it his cousin who is the scrap man?”

    Freddy Shepherd is a scrapman from way back, Stuart. Can’t speak for Deb, but I know quite a few of the things he used to get up to in that yard of his too. The man is truly revolting and amoral, and there’s no limit to what he would do for money. You don’t even know the start of it.

  72. worky spill the beans what did he get up to ?

    about mp3’s yes the sound quality may nnot be great but you can carry youre music with you which you cant do with a vinyl anda vinyl player

  73. i have just (shamefully) found out that jackie milburns name was john so why did they call him jackie

  74. beyethegreat says:
    June 30, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    “worky spill the beans what did he get up to ?”

    Not on here Beye, I don’t want to have to deal with a slander case right now.

    “about mp3’s yes the sound quality may nnot be great but you can carry youre music with you which you cant do with a vinyl anda vinyl player”

    I wasn’t just talking about vinyl there, I was talking about CDs too, though you do have a very good point there if you want to carry your whole collection around with you I suppose.

    ps Beye, “Jack” is another way of saying “John”, and a “Fenian” is an Irish Catholic Republican (from yesterday if you recall?).

  75. ps Beye, “Jack” is another way of saying “John”, and a “Fenian” is an Irish Catholic Republican (from yesterday if you recall?).

    i thought so my mates grandad gets the same and thanks for the fenian answer

  76. I stuck to vinyl for as long as I possibly could. I never really jumped into CDs in a big way but I’ve now embraced digital.

    Sound quality used to be high on my list and I’d spend big money on record decks and amps at one time, however my ear quality now means sound quality is less of a priority.

  77. When I was 10, I inherited a ‘ghettoblaster’ which had a vinyl player on the front. It had a handle for carrying as per it’s nature. As it weighed more than me at the time, more often than not, it stayed right where it was in my room. Ah but we had some good times listening to away games together on a Saturday afternoon…..

  78. Up in the loft I still have an old Grundig reel-to-reel tape recorder that used to be my dad’s. It even has me singing ‘Lily The Pink’ on it at 4 years old.

    Actually I doubt it still works. It’s the late 1970’s since it last saw the light of day.

  79. I couldn’t even begin to tell you what I recorded myself singing on the aforementioned ghettoblaster….

  80. Hugh
    ‘It even has me singing ‘Lily The Pink’ on it at 4 years old.’
    BBM
    ‘I couldn’t even begin to tell you what I recorded myself singing on the aforementioned ghettoblaster….’

    Right little pair of entertainers!

  81. 101 workyticket says:
    June 30, 2009 at 10:07 pm
    beyethegreat says:
    June 30, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    “worky spill the beans what did he get up to ?”

    Not on here Beye, I don’t want to have to deal with a slander case right now.

    If what you say is true you won’t get done for slander will you?

    The other halves great grandad was best mates with Freddies dad and gave up the chance to go into business with him way back when. Dunno whether that was a good thing or not.