Comments on: Yanks close in on Toon. http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/08/yanks-close-in-on-toon/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:40:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Hugh de Payen http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/08/yanks-close-in-on-toon/#comment-5111 Hugh de Payen Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:59:40 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=3771#comment-5111 bowburnmag says: August 31, 2009 at 8:51 am (Edit) Worky you know I was being facetious but in fairness who are we judging Shearer against? ==== That's the key point about the Shearer debate in my opinion. It isn't Shearer v All-Potential-Managers. It's Shearer v Realistic-Options or, perhaps more specifically, Shearer v Those-Mentioned-In-Connection-With-The-Job, which is basically Curbs, O'Leary, Hughton and Kinnear. If other managers become realistic options then they can be considered too. bowburnmag says:
August 31, 2009 at 8:51 am (Edit)

Worky you know I was being facetious but in fairness who are we judging Shearer against?

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That’s the key point about the Shearer debate in my opinion.

It isn’t Shearer v All-Potential-Managers. It’s Shearer v Realistic-Options or, perhaps more specifically, Shearer v Those-Mentioned-In-Connection-With-The-Job, which is basically Curbs, O’Leary, Hughton and Kinnear.

If other managers become realistic options then they can be considered too.

]]> By: bowburnmag http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/08/yanks-close-in-on-toon/#comment-5108 bowburnmag Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:51:35 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=3771#comment-5108 Worky you know I was being facetious but in fairness who are we judging Shearer against? I think there's really only Hughton if we consider Ashley is staying. I just think that Hughton is generally a bit of yes man in as much as he'll just get on with the job. While that's working so far, our depleted squad will start to struggle. Tonight could be the beginning with no experienced forward line. I just think whoever comes in is justified in asking for some funds beause it shows ambition. We don't need to go back to the bad old days of over-spending to the point of crippling us but we do need to speculate. If Ashley can't do that then Hughton is perhaps the only option. Let's hope he can get some loans in and cope with the demands of a long season. Worky you know I was being facetious but in fairness who are we judging Shearer against? I think there’s really only Hughton if we consider Ashley is staying. I just think that Hughton is generally a bit of yes man in as much as he’ll just get on with the job. While that’s working so far, our depleted squad will start to struggle. Tonight could be the beginning with no experienced forward line. I just think whoever comes in is justified in asking for some funds beause it shows ambition. We don’t need to go back to the bad old days of over-spending to the point of crippling us but we do need to speculate. If Ashley can’t do that then Hughton is perhaps the only option. Let’s hope he can get some loans in and cope with the demands of a long season.

]]> By: geordie deb http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/08/yanks-close-in-on-toon/#comment-5084 geordie deb Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:25:33 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=3771#comment-5084 How was your birthday weekend Worky? How was your birthday weekend Worky?

]]> By: workyticket http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/08/yanks-close-in-on-toon/#comment-5081 workyticket Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:56:30 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=3771#comment-5081 Bowburn, I love the club more than Alan Shearer because I haven't lost the plot. That doesn't mean I think he was a bad player, but I won't judge him differently to other people just because of that. That would just be silly. Bowburn, I love the club more than Alan Shearer because I haven’t lost the plot. That doesn’t mean I think he was a bad player, but I won’t judge him differently to other people just because of that. That would just be silly.

]]> By: bowburnmag http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/08/yanks-close-in-on-toon/#comment-5077 bowburnmag Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:21:58 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=3771#comment-5077 Put your Big Al t-shirt on man worky. You know you love him! Blaming Hughton is a bit harsh mind Bats. He was fighting a losing battle. Undoubtedly results have improved this year due to poorer opposition and a reality check for the players but games have been there to be won or lost and he's got us on the right path. Fair play to him. Put your Big Al t-shirt on man worky. You know you love him! Blaming Hughton is a bit harsh mind Bats. He was fighting a losing battle. Undoubtedly results have improved this year due to poorer opposition and a reality check for the players but games have been there to be won or lost and he’s got us on the right path. Fair play to him.

]]> By: Hugh de Payen http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/08/yanks-close-in-on-toon/#comment-5073 Hugh de Payen Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:59:39 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=3771#comment-5073 workyticket says: August 30, 2009 at 7:44 pm (Edit) "Why would he need money to employ Shearer? He’s completely inexperienced so he should be cheap as chips." I expect he won't be cheap as chips though, which is why he'll need money to employ him. Chips aren't that cheap actually. I paid £1.40 the last time I bought some. "If he’s asking for millions, I would just tell him to do one and get someone with better credentials." That's certainly one option. workyticket says:
August 30, 2009 at 7:44 pm (Edit)

“Why would he need money to employ Shearer? He’s completely inexperienced so he should be cheap as chips.”

I expect he won’t be cheap as chips though, which is why he’ll need money to employ him.

Chips aren’t that cheap actually. I paid £1.40 the last time I bought some.

“If he’s asking for millions, I would just tell him to do one and get someone with better credentials.”

That’s certainly one option.

]]> By: workyticket http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/08/yanks-close-in-on-toon/#comment-5072 workyticket Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:44:06 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=3771#comment-5072 Hugh de Payen says: August 30, 2009 at 7:16 pm "I think Ashley would have to be prepared to commit money to employ Shearer and rebuild the team" Why would he need money to employ Shearer? He's completely inexperienced so he should be cheap as chips. If he's asking for millions, I would just tell him to do one and get someone with better credentials. Hugh de Payen says:
August 30, 2009 at 7:16 pm

“I think Ashley would have to be prepared to commit money to employ Shearer and rebuild the team”

Why would he need money to employ Shearer? He’s completely inexperienced so he should be cheap as chips. If he’s asking for millions, I would just tell him to do one and get someone with better credentials.

]]> By: Hugh de Payen http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/08/yanks-close-in-on-toon/#comment-5071 Hugh de Payen Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:16:39 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=3771#comment-5071 I would imagine that Moat would want certain guarantees of a 'free hand' (although within a budget of course) from Ashley before he became chairman but I wouldn't be too sure Ashley would give them. The thing is, for Moat to be attracted to the job of chairman, I think Ashley would have to be prepared to commit money to employ Shearer and rebuild the team, and I just can't see him doing that. Unless of course Moat puts some of his own money into the club to buy that freedom. The more I think about this option, the less likely I think it is. I would imagine that Moat would want certain guarantees of a ‘free hand’ (although within a budget of course) from Ashley before he became chairman but I wouldn’t be too sure Ashley would give them.

The thing is, for Moat to be attracted to the job of chairman, I think Ashley would have to be prepared to commit money to employ Shearer and rebuild the team, and I just can’t see him doing that.

Unless of course Moat puts some of his own money into the club to buy that freedom.

The more I think about this option, the less likely I think it is.

]]> By: Frogeordie http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/08/yanks-close-in-on-toon/#comment-5069 Frogeordie Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:35:07 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=3771#comment-5069 Ashley to stay Moat to chair, most likely scenario all rest rubbish. Shearer to manage? We'll see. Ashley to stay Moat to chair, most likely scenario all rest rubbish. Shearer to manage? We’ll see.

]]> By: chuck http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/08/yanks-close-in-on-toon/#comment-5064 chuck Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:27:46 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=3771#comment-5064 Yeah, we live in hope and die in dispair. Too many false dawns lately. I remember when expectations were high, people like Modric, Johnson from Man. C. etc.now look at us! Not saying Killgallon and Vaughan are crap but somehow i find it difficult to get exited by their signing for the club, plus I doubt we will aquire anything but free signings or loanees. A takeover by a reputable US group sounds a bit too good to be true, still! a faint ray of hope remains. Yeah, we live in hope and die in dispair.
Too many false dawns lately.
I remember when expectations were high, people like Modric, Johnson from Man. C. etc.now look at us!
Not saying Killgallon and Vaughan are crap but somehow i find it difficult to get exited by their signing for the club, plus I doubt we will aquire anything but free signings or loanees.
A takeover by a reputable US group sounds a bit too good to be true, still! a faint ray of hope remains.

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