Betway betting sites banner

“Is it a bird? Is it a plane?… no, it’s…”

Posted on October 7th, 2009 | 130 Comments |

Here to save the world!
Here to save the world!
With the air thick with takeover talk, real or imaginary, now feels like a good time to throw in a spanner, or two. It is widely acknowledged that, under impossible circumstances, Chris Hughton and his staff have done an astounding job thus far managing Newcastle United. With a pre-season filled with doom-laden mutterings of “Doing a Leeds”, crashing though the divisions and into financial meltdown….while nothing of the sort has transpired. There’s still time yet, of course, but to the untrained eye all in the garden looks rosey.

Let’s make an assumption. Let’s assume that Barry Moat’s bid goes sailing through and, within minutes, we have the mighty Alan Shearer at the helm. How do the collective feel about that? Is he a white knight riding in to save us or an egomaniac sating his need for attention, and doing us more harm in the process? As Stardust (and David Frost on ‘Through the Keyhole’ ) would say….”Let’s look at the facts”.

His managerial record:

Played 8, Won 1, Drew 2, Lost 5.

….it’s not great, it’s not even mediocre. But, is he really to be judged on eight, end-of-season, scrambled bunfights with a dispirited squad, and a ton of behind-the-scenes pressure? Arsene Wenger said, at the time of Shearer’s appointment, that any manager coming in, with 8 games left, and expected to turn things around. Well that man wouldn’t be a manager, he’d be a magician. Al, to my knowledge, is no David Copperfield, he’s not even a Paul Daniels. He lacks vital experience. A tactical acumen hardened by season after season of bruising conflict. He doesn’t have it. He’d been widely seen as playing to the Geordies’, oft talked about, ‘Messiah Syndrome’. Stating our need for Gods, of varying statures, to appear every so often and fish us out of the clarts! He would, without doubt, focus media attention on us, at a time we are desperately trying to shuffle out of the ‘Red Top’ spotlight, and, in his insistence on listening to Iain Dowie, he’s made something of a rod for his own back. Dowie is a self-absorbed, loudmouthed know-it-all (with a spotty CV) who also happens to be a ‘Jonah’ for football clubs!! I could go on, but let’s say these are some of the objections to Big Al’s stewardship?

What then might the ‘Pros’ be to all of these ‘Cons’? Well, I know Worky (and others here) have an in-built repulsion to Sir John Hall’s media-fueled notion of a ‘Geordie Nation’; perhaps seeing it as the ultimate expression of mob rule. However, a mob is only a mob when it lacks leadership. When it has strong coherent leadership, what is it? An army, that’s what! A well-drilled, disciplined, powerful juggernaut capable of moving mountains, let alone winning football matches. A ‘Toon Army’ (if you will, or even if you won’t) could be a very strong, viable entity indeed: City/Fans/Club/Team enjoined in a circle of one. A broad ‘Church of Toon’ approach that unites differing views/opinions/Geordies and non-Geordies….with ‘the Club’ as it’s uniting principle. How long has it been since all our oars were in the water at once? How long have we drifted at the mercy of those who would steal from us, lie to us? How much is enough?

If we accept that we are fractured, that the club needs to be healed (from the inside out) then what better figure to affect that healing than Alan Shearer? Experience can be gained, tactics learned and infrastructures repaired. What is more elusive is that connection that managers have with their club. Ferguson at Man Utd and Wenger at Arsenal (recent criticism notwithstanding) both have that strong ‘us against the world’ ethic; as evidenced by Ferguson’s outrageous outburst at the weekend, to deflect the media from slaughtering his below-par team. We need someone with a love of this team, this city, at his very core. We’ve always performed better with someone like that at the helm. Shearer could heal the divisions, calm the troubled waters of ‘Mob vs Reason’, unite what is splintered. He has integrity, courage and honour. He has strength, he commands the respect of those around him, he’s an inspirational figure.

He wants to be a manager, how would it sit with us to watch him manage someone else, successfully? How much would that burn? To know he wanted us but we spurned him. Joe Kinnear was dismissive of our need for ‘messiahs’, his joke was tinged with the bitterness of a man who’s never been one. Joe had also been passed over in favour of Shearer. His assertion that, had he stayed we would not have been relegated, is the hollow rattle of a simpleton, impossible to prove, easy to state.

Football is as much about passion as it is about tactics, as much about endeavour as it is about skill, as much about heart as it is about head; if it were not then we’d all get rich predicting the pools every week. There are as many reasons to be anti-Shearer as there are to be pro; I expect there will be many differing opinions expressed here.

In an age of reason (rather than miracle) perhaps the head will rule the heart; but before the steely intellects have their way, let us consider this: if anyone stands any chance of reuniting this club, fashioning a team to be proud of and creating a dynasty to last more than one or two seasons, then surely it must be Shearer. The ‘Church of Toon’ awaits us and in it’s beneficent light we will stand refocused, renewed, reborn.

All together now…”Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it’s………SuperShearer!!”

Excelsior out!

NUFCBlog Author: Excelsior Excelsior has written 6 articles on this blog.

Related Posts:


130 Responses

  1. Great article!

    Better than the ‘war and peace’ sh1te that Stardust inflicts upon us.

    Shearer, Shearer!

  2. Two interesting scenarios, the first a realistic assessment, the second the standard messianic nonsense.

  3. Two interesting scenarios, the first, a realistic assessment, the second, the standard messianic nonsense.

  4. chuck says:
    October 7, 2009 at 4:29 pm
    Two interesting scenarios, the first, a realistic assessment, the second, the standard messianic nonsense.

    Two interesting comments, the first stupid, the secon, well exactly the same….

  5. chuck says:
    October 7, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    “Two interesting scenarios, the first, a realistic assessment, the second, the standard messianic nonsense.”

    You beat me to it, Chuck!

  6. Alreet chuck, give it a rest ;)

    Good article Excelsior – poor editorial work by a certain other contributor though :oops:

    You know that in the past I chided you for the religious connotations and elaborate podium speeches but I always got the message. Getting the fans together is important. Whether Shearer is the answer, I don’t know. But I’m willing to give him a chance. To be honest though, he could be from Planet Krypton. I just think he’ll be up to the task given time.

    I will feel for Chris Hughton though….

  7. Very good piece of writing indeed Excelsior….

    Lets face it, there’s not much Sir Alan could do to improve the team’s results at the moment – Hughton and Calderwood (and the players, to be fair) have put a lot right there.

    I agree that where Sir Alan would make a difference is the impact he would have on the fans. Some people might not like the “Geordie Nation” idea, but whether we like it or not we ARE a geordie family, fiercely proud of where we come from and what that means to us, our mams, dads, family, friends etc It’s what makes us different from the rest…..

    I believe Sir Alan would provide the necessary leadership and inspiration to unite the fans. But none of this can happen while the liars are still ensconced in St James’ Park (read “London actually”…..)

    Here’s hoping…..

  8. chuck – two posts. One stupid, the other fricking ridiculous.

    Not really, it was just too good to resist.

  9. bowburnmag says:
    October 7, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    I will feel for Chris Hughton though….

    I don’t!

    He’s being well paid for what he’s doing and if he got another job offer he’d be off like a shot.

    Also football history is littered with caretaker managers getting the job full time and making a complete arse out of it.

    I stick to my original opinion that a blind man on a galloping horse should have us top of this league.

  10. bowburnmag says:
    October 7, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    “I will feel for Chris Hughton though….”

    Why? It will give him a chance to manage another team where the fans aren’t so prejudiced and ingrated.

  11. Because I think he genuinely likes it up here and is enjoying it. And probably has ambitions to take it further.

  12. Why do I feel uneasy in regard to a Moat takeover.
    Or for that matter any of the previous bunch associated with bids for the club.
    Guess I have yet to reach a stage where it`s anyone but Ashley.
    Think I would prefer to wait until we are promoted (hopefully) how much damage can accur between now and then.
    A lot of people`s hopes have probably been raised by the recent headlines “Five groups bidding for NUFC”.
    Hmmm ! careful what you wish for !

  13. workyticket yo hater wht up still u fell for Hughton haha i havent hered a jock like this the dud is drawing a game against a team which is in the lower than us in quality,quantitiy,evrything and the person who saya he is talented is crazy we have players like loven,marlon,germy,barton and what the fu…k did u expect to happen ru retarded

  14. chuck says:
    October 7, 2009 at 4:50 pm
    Why do I feel uneasy in regard to a Moat takeover.
    Or for that matter any of the previous bunch associated with bids for the club.
    Guess I have yet to reach a stage where it`s anyone but Ashley.
    Think I would prefer to wait until we are promoted (hopefully) how much damage can accur between now and then.
    A lot of people`s hopes have probably been raised by the recent headlines “Five groups bidding for NUFC”.
    Hmmm ! careful what you wish for !

    —————————————————–

    NUFC are the only club in the history of football that have been bought by a billionaire and have been worse off and got relegated!

    Baring in mind that statistic it’s highly unlikely we will end up with such a prick again.

    Why don’t you give the guy a fckin chance ffs?!

    He’s trying to get us out of this huge black hole Ashley has created. He at least deserves our support…

  15. Bowburnmag Too good to miss.
    Sure why not, it`s all just craic after all
    and a bit of humor goes a long way on these so serious blogs.

  16. Didn’t we ‘spurn’ Shearer way back when, then ended up coughing £15m for him?
    Oh, i dunno ’bout this, Shearer: playing legend-of that there is no doubt. But, give him the job cos he wants it & it’s his birth-right kind of thing, smacks of desperation for a king/messiah. It’s all a bit old fashioned & imperial, isn’t it?
    Oh! Here we go again.

  17. Worky
    Had i known you were about to comment I would have waited, your comments being more erudite and to the point.
    Have to blame it on the cockney mafia and the southern press, by the way have`nt heard much about Spurs lately,
    do we still despise them?

  18. Stuart79 says:
    October 7, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Stuart on Chris Hughton:

    “I don’t!

    He’s being well paid for what he’s doing and if he got another job offer he’d be off like a shot.

    Also football history is littered with caretaker managers getting the job full time and making a complete arse out of it.”

    Stuart on Alan Shearer:

    “Why don’t you give the guy a fckin chance ffs?!

    He’s trying to get us out of this huge black hole Ashley has created. He at least deserves our support…”

    Stuart, do you really not recognise the complete hypocrisy and double standards there?

  19. With Chuck and Worky tumbling over themselves to belittle my “Messianic Nonsense”, I must be at the right party.

    Hadn’t realised you needed Worky’s permission to despise Spurs, Chuck, erudite fellow though he undoubtedly is!

  20. Shearer stands on his own as potential without his birthplace and his time at Newcastle being major factors in my opinion. Perhaps conversely they could be a hindrance.

    I’m fairly sure SuperShearer would be fine though. Providing he doesn’t forget his cape and god forbid his tights and y-fronts.

  21. chuck says:
    October 7, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    “Worky
    Had i known you were about to comment I would have waited, your comments being more erudite and to the point.”

    B*llocks Chuck! You comments are usually top notch!

  22. “Worky
    Had i known you were about to comment I would have waited, your comments being more erudite and to the point.”

    B*llocks Chuck! You comments are usually top notch!

    I think he just repeats himself all the time……

  23. workyticket says:
    October 7, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Worky,

    I’m actually on about Barry Moat, I thought that was quite obvious considering I was replying to a comment on Moat and he hasn’t even bought the club yet and Chuck isn’t sure about him.

  24. The cons outweigh the pros significantly.

    In fact your one pro is indeed debatable, One man in charge of an army is dangerous in that you give so much to so little. We have seen this before, if Shearer comes and then he goes the army take it as a license to mutiny. We saw this when Keegan was here and left.

    Any owner who appoints Shearer would have to tread so carefully around him for fear of agitating him and thus the army he commands. Worse when the lion knows his strength, no man can control him and Shearer knows his strength.

    If unity is what you want then there is an alternative catalyst to this unity and that is results, good results. To get good results we need a manager who has what you wrote in the article as attributes Shearer does not have namely; experience; tactical aptitude and the like.

    Shearer can unit us that is beyond debate but he can also splinter splinters!

    Shearer Vs Hughton. I back Hughton all the way.

  25. Actually “Moat man”, maybe he’s ‘Moatman’ and together him and SuperShearer could be the new dynamic duo with the ‘Loan Ranger’ spearheading the attack and ‘Spiderman’ supporting him in midfield.

    I see what you’ve done here Excelsior, this blog is going to become a shrine to your comic affections!!

  26. I like Chris Houghton, but then I liked Glenn Roeder….

    Houghton isn’t the man for me as a full time boss, yes we’ve done well this year much better than I expected but it’s a poor league in which our chronic lack of pace doesn’t get exposed as much and if you’re being really harsh some of his selections have been, to my eyes anyway, more about keeping senior players happy than anything else.

    As for Shearer no he’s not ideal. Ideally we’d like an experienced manager who can operate on a small ish budget manage the egos we have and get the best out of them and who has the contacts to get us good young players on the cheap. If anyone can put a name to this paragon of virtue please let me know…:)

    Shearer for me is probably the best of a limited amount of alternatives and he is one of the few people who should hopefully be given the time needed for what will be a hard long job of rebuilding

  27. Michael12 says:
    October 7, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Shearer Vs Hughton. I back Hughton all the way.

    I take it you would have said eactly the same if we replce Shearer with say – Frank Riykard? Or maybe Laurent Blanc? What about Roy Keane?

    All outstanding successes in the their first management jobs.

  28. Stuart79 says:
    October 7, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    “I’m actually on about Barry Moat, I thought that was quite obvious considering I was replying to a comment on Moat and he hasn’t even bought the club yet and Chuck isn’t sure about him.”

    Apologies, Stuart. But I fail to see the difference anyway, it’s still inconsistent. You want to give Moat a chance, but you don’t want to give Hughton a chance.

    What’s the difference?

  29. workyticket says:
    October 7, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Firstly Moat hasn’t even got in the bloody door yet.

    Secondly – Richard Dinnis and Glenn Roeder

    Rob Kelly – Leicester
    Tony Parkes – Blackburn
    Stuart Pearce – Man City
    Stuart Houston – Arsenal
    Ricky Sbragia – Mackems
    Sammy Lee – Bolton
    Stuart Hutchinson – Wigan

    These are just carteaker managers who have been given the job full time after doing a good job originally.

    It’s a totally different job – Majority of all these are first and foremost coaches.

    That’s what I’m basing my Hughton argument on. Also the fact that we do have about a dozen international players, we dam well should be doing well!

  30. bowburnmag says: October 7, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    Nice one BBM! I “Marvel” at your insight, the “Thing” is I don’t want to be a “Flash” in the pan or lack “Vision” but i frequently end up sounding like a “Preacher”.

    I’ll be “Fantastic Four” a minute then end up like an “X-Man”…it’s all too much sometimes.

    Never “Dare-a-Devil”!

    Excelsior Out!

  31. Bowburnmag
    Yes I`m afraid you are right I do tend to repeat myself, something I will have to work on.
    Then for someone who`s favorites were “Dorty” Jimmy Scoular and Bobby Mitchell, hopefully there`s an excuse there.

  32. Ah shucks chuck, I was just being facetious because of the double-post.

    Your posts are amongst those I enjoy reading the most. Even when I don’t agree with them.

  33. Exelsior
    You did ask for comments, No !
    Sorry if you found mine to be offensive.
    Look it`s obvious you got a lotta peoples attention and is`nt that the purpose.
    It`s the cockney mafia and the(soft)southern press ya gotta look out for.

  34. SACK HUTON GET SHERER N KEEGEN IN B4 ITS TOOLATE

    FAT COCKNY BASTARDS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB!!!!

  35. was actually having this debate a few weeks ago and i think i’m just slightly on the side that he’d be a good appointment – on the conditions that he had the right people around him. i think it’s been hit right on that he’s probably not the most tactically talented manager, but his man management skills would go a long way and, provided he could bring in a staff who was on the ball tactically, i think he could do well.

    being where we are though, i think houghton’s done an great job motivating the team and it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. i hope whoever comes in at least keeps him on as a first team coach.

  36. I guess if Shearer is hired, it’ll help maintain the roller-coaster ride that is NUFC.
    And i dare say, the fallout if/when it all goes bad will eclipse the kk thing totally.
    What a prospect.
    Don’t get me wrong, i love Big Al, & i’d love it to all work out. But it’s a bit/lot of a risk.
    Not that we’re averse to Big, divvy risks at this club.

  37. “Joe Kinnear was dismissive of our need for ‘messiahs’, his joke was tinged with the bitterness of a man who’s never been one. Joe had also been passed over in favour of Shearer. His assertion that, had he stayed we would not have been relegated, is the hollow rattle of a simpleton, impossible to prove, easy to state.”

    Demagogues never seem to have a sense of irony.

  38. Exelsior good article enjoyed reading it. Imo I thimk Big Al would be a good choice I know he isn’t everyones choice but you must realise that until he has had the chance to manage us NO ONE else will get the time needed to build a team, So do you not think its better to get it out of the way ASAP. Also noticed a few Cockney mafia etc bashing do you not think that that has done us alot of damage in the past year or so that is why we get slated in the press.

  39. Worky its getting real busy on here mate good job, could you not get a few more advertisments and pop ups make it feel a bit more homely lol ;)

  40. BIG DAVE WE NEED REAL GEORDIES RUNNINTHIS CLUB U CANT TRUST COCKNYS LIKE ASHLY LAMBIASN HUTON

    COCKNYS OUT SHERER AN MOAT IN!!!!

  41. Big Dave says:
    October 7, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    “Worky its getting real busy on here mate good job, could you not get a few more advertisments and pop ups make it feel a bit more homely lol”

    LOL Big Dave.

    There’ll NEVER be any ‘interstitial’ ads (the really bad ones that block the page) or pop ups on here.

  42. workyticket says:
    October 7, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    There’ll NEVER be any ‘inerstitial’ ads (the really bad ones that block the page) or pop ups on here.

    Praise the lord….

  43. Very well written Excelsior – you wont be surprised that I think – all things considered – that Shearer would be a poor appointment an even further than that – a step backward.

    Several make reference to inexperienced managers who make a good go of it. Industry and Football is littered with the novice. However when a manager is affable – relentless and talented you will work for him – if the manager is for instance a disciplinarian – he has to be on his A1 game or people will stop working for him. This applies in all aspects of life. You work 10 times harder for those you like – warm to AND respect from those you fear and respect.

    Alan Shearer maybe has too much edge – too big an ego – too much discipline to be a manager – he hasnt got the Bobby Robson or Keegan touch – he cant capture players hearts and minds. Of course that can be easily changed within – but I am not sure he would change.

    Secondly if I were buying the club tomorrow I would not want Shearer in charge – we have to rid the club forever of its messiahs, bring in a new dawn of realism, of work and pride. We have to educate the fans and not build expectation. Shearers appointment would pander to every weakness – I also believe that the mob would remain a mob – it might temporarily realign itself – only to disintegrate on Shearer leaving (if it came to be so)

    For those reasons I say no to Shearer – I have yet to see good reason why Chris Houghton cant do it – he is a man to be respected – who kept his head and dignity while all crumbled.

    The players respect him – the fans should respect him – he has the ingredients that make him likeable…..now can he inspire……

  44. Does anyone really know someone who refers to Messiahs (in the context of Newcastle Managers, that is) in social company? I don’t. It’s becoming increasingly tiresome that some NUFC ‘supporters’ continue to take the Southern journalist’s favourite cliche as gospel. Please, no more.

    As for the Shearer debate, the only thing that is of consequence is whether he has the ability and the temperament to do a good job. Hard to state with any degree of certainty either way.

    One thing I do know is that the short-sightedness regarding Hougton has to go; the same folk who derided his abilities as caretaker last season now seem to think he should automatically be given the permanent position – nonsense. He is a very good coach and a decent man who has done an admirable job in decent circumstances. No more, no less.

    Here’s a crazy idea: how about appointing a Manager with the desired credentials and attendant kahunas for the job, irrespective of whether he hails from Benwell or Bangladesh. And that he is given time to make a decent fist of it, as oppposed to the standard 18 Months or less.

  45. Stardust do you not agree that until he gets a chance to show if he will be a success or failure no one else is going to get the chance or time needed ?

  46. Stardust says:
    October 7, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Secondly if I were buying the club tomorrow I would not want Shearer in charge – we have to rid the club forever of its messiahs, bring in a new dawn of realism, of work and pride. We have to educate the fans and not build expectation. Shearers appointment would pander to every weakness – I also believe that the mob would remain a mob – it might temporarily realign itself – only to disintegrate on Shearer leaving (if it came to be

    —————————————————–

    Unless of course the new owner thinks Shearer to be a great appointment and a young manager with huge potential.

    Little bit like Sir Bobby Robson, Alan Hansen and Kenny Dalgleish think.

    Opinions are great of course, but I would take on board opinion of former successful players and manager like the ones mentioned above.

  47. blanche says:
    October 7, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    “just gambling ads – the root of all evil.”

    It’s for the Ukraine game blanche, free streaming, save a fiver ’cause it isn’t on the telly thanks to Sultana going bust. Don’t bet if you don’t want to.

  48. As with Mike Ashley – the new owner will be taking a risk with their own money – they will be the ultimate can carrier. therefore if Shearer is appointed irrespective of my views I will support. (might not agree but I will support)

    Big Dave – my worry is – there was never a better time to unite Newcastle United – its fans – its players – the city than the end of last season.

    Others quote Wengers statement re the magician being needed not manager – but Wenger misses out on that key ingredient that is our problem – the love and need to someone with whom our fans have a bind with to manage the club – Shearer should have hit the floor running with a tidal wave of optimism.

    Whatever he did seemed to coach the life out of the players – to me he didnt seem to have a clue about how to get the best out of his team or their best formation. He alienated JB ata time we didnt need side shows (and it way way above his remit to do so). So my worry is not in relation to inexperienced managers – its Alan Shearer himself.

  49. damn – wish i’d had a few quid on getting that response – only joking worky nobody likes a bet as much as me LOL

  50. Stardust says:
    October 7, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Whatever he did seemed to coach the life out of the players – to me he didnt seem to have a clue about how to get the best out of his team or their best formation. He alienated JB ata time we didnt need side shows (and it way way above his remit to do so). So my worry is not in relation to inexperienced managers – its Alan Shearer himself

    ——————–

    Either that or the players just weren’t good enough?

  51. Good call shiverMeTimbre, think you’re asking a bit much of most, to think outside of the region.
    If the next owner has a big nose & comes from, say, the U.S., it’ll be ‘y’big nosed yank, get of our club’, won’t it?
    Stardust’s assessment seems pretty solid also, stop making sense mate, it goes against the grain.

  52. Howay stuart, you’re just saying that cos Stardust said it.
    I fully expected Shearer to get the whole thing moving in the right direction last season, i was expecting some verve, a scrap, a show of solidarity, something, anything.
    It just wasn’t forth coming though, was it?
    I know he came in when we had to play top teams & it was difficult for him, but nevertheless, i expected my temperature to go up, at least.

  53. CLiNT FLiCK says:
    October 7, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Under Shearer when we played a team on our level we beat them 3-1!

    I just think the players weren’t good enough and what with Shearer being the 5th manager that season I’m sure their head were spinning all ower!

  54. Stuart, yes man, there’s definitely something in what you say. Especially with regard to the 5 managers in a season point. Not so sure about the players weren’t good enough bit though.
    After all, all the players that moved on, went quickly, to teams that are, apparently, better than us?

  55. Clint,

    I’m not too sure you can win PL matches on effort/passion alone.

    I think the biggest issue was the amount of managers we had. Even by our standards last season was outrageous!

  56. Not getting you Stuart.
    Are you saying that Beye, Owen, Duff, Bassong, Oba et al, are worse players than we have now & all huff & puff?
    If so, why were they snapped up by prem teams?
    People might have thought this, that or the other about them, but they still had no problem finding gainful employment, did they?
    But, hell yes, to the manager thing, with brass knockers on.

  57. CLiNT FLiCK says:
    October 7, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    We had some good individuals I agree.

    Owen never played, Martins was shockin and Duff,well nuff said! Beye and Bassong yes but they had a lot of work to do on their own.

    Proff of the pudding is in the eating Clint surely?

    We were in a relegation fight the last two season in the PL and we lost the last one.

  58. Stardust says:
    October 7, 2009 at 9:13 pm
    Start

    Generally your views are that biased its difficult to accept them or even read them

    Is he a new blogger like?

  59. stardust – you really upset me tonight – i offered you my hand of friendship and you threatened me with violence – but then again your getting regular with that.

  60. Stuart,
    yes man, i hear yer, but i think you’ll find that if you asked a random set of pundits, fans, or anyone with even a passing interest in football, they’d all say they were our better players. Disregarding what we think of them.
    As it proved when it came to the selling thereof.
    Ask ferguson, hodgeson, o’neil etc.
    Personally, i don’t see any of them pulling up trees yet at their new clubs, time will tell though?
    Circumstances reigned, not the players ability. Turmoil is just that, it does for people. Especially with 50k breathing down your neck every other week.

  61. Lol – funny – for you

    Sorry Roy – just trying to make you hit some random fella – would have been quite funny lol

  62. if that’s an apology i accept it – stuart79/start is probably your best option if you want to throw your weight around.

  63. Roy Cropper says:
    October 7, 2009 at 9:48 pm
    if that’s an apology i accept it – stuart79/start is probably your best option if you want to throw your weight around.

    All three stone? (wet through)

  64. Forget Shearer being installed as the Manager.Ashley has no intention of selling the club whilst there is a remote chance of the club being promoted,we are stuck with fatty and his Gimp until at least the close season.

  65. You could be right Ventura but a I reckon he wants out. But he won’t be going anywhere unless he gets £100m. Point of princable more than anything.

  66. Stardust says:
    October 7, 2009 at 9:35 pm
    Lol – funny – for you

    Sorry Roy – just trying to make you hit some random fella – would have been quite funny lol
    <<<<why are you trying to make oot you dont work there

  67. bowburnmag says:
    October 7, 2009 at 10:53 pm
    Is it a bird? Is it a plain(sic) No, it’s Anne ‘Stardust’ Moorhouse!

    LMFAO!

  68. dickie i’ll be round about 1/2 eleven after i’ve signed on – and dont give’is any crap about the kettle being broken.

  69. Love the bit about the well bred Daschunds lol – hilarious lol.

    batty says:
    October 7, 2009 at 10:29 pm
    stardust his name is hughton not Houghton

    Lol – well I am 2 -1 up again Batty lol.

  70. stardust FCCA – i’ve got £1.14 burning a hole in my pocket , i couldn’t trouble you as to the best way of investing it could i ? – i was cosidering a luck dip and a 14p mix up. any thoughts ?.

  71. Nice one Excelsior. But the little voice in my head is shouting from the back of the ‘room’ that it wants KK back. But I will definitely be happy if Shearer gets the job. I think Newcastle needs a man of integrity who has the ability to get good players into the club because they WANT to play for him. I think Hughton is a good guy but I honestly don’t think he is the right man for the job. I think the lads that are left in the team have decided for themselves that they want to get the team back up to the PL with or without the help of Hughton. But for me, Hughton will always be Ashley’s puppet whereas KK or Shearer are their ‘own men’ and if something is wrong they will stand up to it. But I don’t think KK and Shearer could ever form a partnership to do it as they are both too strong a character to accept the leadership of the other one. With Hughton and Kinnear in charge of Newcastle I think the the players took advantage with things like, not coming in on time to training and staying on the sick long after they were better. I think it was a shock to their system when Shearer arrived for the last 8 games and it just wasn’t enough time to instill the discipline back into the team that they needed. So I really hope Shearer gets his chance to manage at Newcastle as I believe he is needed.

  72. Jill says:
    October 8, 2009 at 5:58 am

    Wise words, Jilly Bean! Hughton’s done a great job but he isn’t the “long term” answer….for that we need a young manager who is going to “develop” along with the club. In my eyes Shearer is it.

    KK, the romantic notion, has had two bites now…I’m not sure his heart (or energy levels) would be up to it.

    Isn’t this a great site, by the way. Worky, Bowburnmag, Hugh, Geordie Deb and all concerned, have created something really worthwhile here.

    It’s full of great characters, lively opinions and sparky debate…everything a blog should be!

    Just read that last bit back and it sounds like a press ad for the site! Ah well, once an ad man always an ad man!

    Chuck: Conflicting opinions make the world go round, kidda. Crack at me all you like…it’s what I’m here for!

    Stardust 42: Thanks for the kudos. To critcsise Shearer for not being SBR seems a tad harsh. Eight games is not enough to establish managerial credentials. As I recall. Fulham sacked Sir Bobby after EIGHT MONTHS, believing him lacking all sorts of managerial traits. They were wrong….just as I think it’s wrong to dismiss Shearer.

    Take your point about “pandering” though….although i’ll never see why some posters on here continually play down the passion, in favour of (alleged) reason?

  73. To Excelsior, agreed mate, I love this site. Informative AND funny. Just what I was needing.

    Sweton T Fleming I have no idea what your post 105 means. If it is a dig at women, I’m sorry you’ll have to be less subtle, I am blonde you know! LOL

  74. Comes in here….pretending to be clever LOL….and it turns out he’s just a ten-a-penny financial consultant with the usual massive ego LOL

    Ha Ha!
    Ha Ha Ha!

    Oh joy!!!

  75. well stardust FCCA – your the one that gave batty a fire cracker to play with , now he’s gone and lit the fuse your life will never be your own.

    – see you in a bit.

  76. Q. When does a person decide to become an accountant?

    A. When he realises he doesn’t have the charisma to succeed as an undertaker….

    LOL

  77. well its not as if stardust hasnt made a rod for his own back is it,for to give out info to people you met on here is just crazy.

  78. LOL – its really funny – you needed as much evidence to believe the anti Ashley lines too.

    Accountant – no – far far from it. But apparently I work for a company in Gateshead lol.

    One thing I want to know if I am working there – where are my wages – I demand to be paid – if I can get paid for the work I must have been doing I will use it to buy BBM a new engine.

  79. Trojan? Was that just a blind shout in the dark – a bit like night terrors – or was it a Tourettes syndrome shout – or have you heard something?

  80. Just watched that NUST video link Hitman – From watching it – its never going to happen. Absolute Clowns (however well intentioned).

    They stated they are NOW going to get finance people to look at it – a financial model is the first thing you do ( says he reinforcing the FCCA line lol)

  81. Stardust says:
    October 8, 2009 at 11:17 am
    LOL – its really funny – you needed as much evidence to believe the anti Ashley lines too.

    Accountant – no – far far from it. But apparently I work for a company in Gateshead lol.

    One thing I want to know if I am working there – where are my wages – I demand to be paid – if I can get paid for the work I must have been doing I will use it to buy BBM a new engine.<<<< agen iam soz m8 are you still coming to wor kids party on sat or are you in 1 agen

  82. hitman – the only pensions not at risk are those corrupt clowns in parliament – so if you’ve got a few quid tucked away give it to the nust – you’ll probably get a better return.

  83. stardust have you forgot when i grassed you for being billy bunter u never anwered any of my calls or texts for a week so if you dont pack it in ile put your mob number on here lol

  84. Stardust says:
    October 8, 2009 at 11:40 am

    Agreed.

    It just will not happen.

    To be self sufficient in football these days you need to be reasonably successfull ie Champions League. Unfortunately the nly way you can get there is with a money man spending decent money on players.

    Chicken and the egg for me.

  85. hitman says:
    October 8, 2009 at 12:34 pm
    still mad where still in the same position as 1 year ago.

    Portsmouth can be bought and sold twice in 1 month, Notts County in 2 month and Merryl Lynch can be bought by Bank of America for $10b in ten minutes.

    But can Asley sell a massive football club with huge potential?

    Can he fck!

    He needs to have a long hard look at himslef.

Leave a reply