Comments on: Ashley gets Moat vote? http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/ashley-gets-moat-vote/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:40:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: chuck http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/ashley-gets-moat-vote/#comment-16758 chuck Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:37:15 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5909#comment-16758 Toonsy Whichever way you divide Fifty million it`s a lot of money. Dont care about Arsenal, yes a well run club, but when you say a more commercially  friendly location, Hmmm ! Lets see,    how many professional football teams in the greater London area (all competitors) compared to Newcastle`s 1#, go figure. And breaking attendance records almost weekly as a second tier team. Think for one minute Arsenal would draw that amount in the same position. Geordies are crazy for football, even under the present conditions, they still show up , regugular as clockwork. Toonsy
Whichever way you divide Fifty million it`s a lot of money.
Dont care about Arsenal, yes a well run club, but when you say a more commercially  friendly location, Hmmm !
Lets see,    how many professional football teams in the greater London area (all competitors) compared to Newcastle`s 1#, go figure.
And breaking attendance records almost weekly as a second tier team.
Think for one minute Arsenal would draw that amount in the same position.
Geordies are crazy for football, even under the present conditions, they still show up , regugular as clockwork.

]]> By: CLiNT FLiCK http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/ashley-gets-moat-vote/#comment-16666 CLiNT FLiCK Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:37:35 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5909#comment-16666 :) bowburn, don't think like that mate. It hasn't gone anywhere. I'm an emotional person, but so long as the name is still there, it doesn't tug at me heart strings. Now if the name was taken away, it would be a different matter. Us lot even use different names to refer to 'Gallowgate', don't we? All stadia will go this way in years to come, plenty have already.   :)
bowburn, don’t think like that mate.
It hasn’t gone anywhere.
I’m an emotional person, but so long as the name is still there, it
doesn’t tug at me heart strings.
Now if the name was taken away, it would be a different matter.
Us lot even use different names to refer to ‘Gallowgate’, don’t we?
All stadia will go this way in years to come, plenty have already.
 

]]> By: bowburnmag http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/ashley-gets-moat-vote/#comment-16664 bowburnmag Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:30:41 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5909#comment-16664 <p>CLiNT FLiCK - it's gone where it matters most (* pats chest gently *)........ Emotive? Who me?.......</p> CLiNT FLiCK – it’s gone where it matters most (* pats chest gently *)……..

Emotive? Who me?…….

]]> By: CLiNT FLiCK http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/ashley-gets-moat-vote/#comment-16660 CLiNT FLiCK Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:11:23 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5909#comment-16660 Has the name 'St. James' Park' gone? I don't think so, but i guess it sounds more emotive if you wanna keep using that term.   Has the name ‘St. James’ Park’ gone?
I don’t think so, but i guess it sounds more emotive if you wanna
keep using that term.
 

]]> By: lesh http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/ashley-gets-moat-vote/#comment-16655 lesh Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:37:39 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5909#comment-16655 <cite>Rangerman</cite> says: <a href="http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/ashley-gets-moat-vote/#comment-16622" rel="nofollow"><strong>November 15, 2009 at 11:39 pm</strong></a> What are these other ways to raise funds? Apart from MA, heard of Faust anyone?  Rangerman says:
November 15, 2009 at 11:39 pm
What are these other ways to raise funds?

Apart from MA, heard of Faust anyone? 

]]> By: bowburnmag http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/ashley-gets-moat-vote/#comment-16646 bowburnmag Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:54:10 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5909#comment-16646 <p>Rangerman - I'm not going to pretend to be something I'm not, in so far as I don't have a cute answer for that question, because that isn't my background. Although I have moved into a role which might allow me to answer that better in the not too distant future. But we know there are other ways for clubs to make money, because they've been doing it long enough? Yes, I guess the game moves on and so must we, and this is probably an easy option. Which is perhaps part of the reason I don't like it. It's almost the best example that Ashley isn't in touch at all with the feelings of the club.  This is possibly a great bit of business to get a competitive edge. But at the concession of something as important as renaming St James' Park? No thanks. At what point do you draw the line? When sponsors start offering money for players to change their names? It's all about identity for me. I didn't want St James' Park to lose it's unique identity. Even if it meant sacrificing a couple of million for a player.</p> Rangerman – I’m not going to pretend to be something I’m not, in so far as I don’t have a cute answer for that question, because that isn’t my background. Although I have moved into a role which might allow me to answer that better in the not too distant future.

But we know there are other ways for clubs to make money, because they’ve been doing it long enough? Yes, I guess the game moves on and so must we, and this is probably an easy option. Which is perhaps part of the reason I don’t like it. It’s almost the best example that Ashley isn’t in touch at all with the feelings of the club.  This is possibly a great bit of business to get a competitive edge. But at the concession of something as important as renaming St James’ Park? No thanks.

At what point do you draw the line? When sponsors start offering money for players to change their names? It’s all about identity for me. I didn’t want St James’ Park to lose it’s unique identity. Even if it meant sacrificing a couple of million for a player.

]]> By: toonsy http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/ashley-gets-moat-vote/#comment-16642 toonsy Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:12:22 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5909#comment-16642 chuck says: <a href="http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/ashley-gets-moat-vote/#comment-16631" rel="nofollow"><strong>November 16, 2009 at 5:06 am</strong></a> Thing is chuck, that 50 million you talk of would currently only pay this years wages and a bit of the next, and thats if we spent it all in 1 hit. Spread it throughout the years, and that would take our wage bill down to 31 million a year. Thats also presuming we manage 5 million a year in sponsership for naming the stadium. At this point i'd like to mention Arsenal and the Emirates. Their stadium is newer, bigger, in a more commercially friendly location, is graced with a team that rarely lose at home, play top class entertaining football, regularly qualify for the champions league et etc. The get 5.7 million for their stadium naming rights. We wont attract anywhere near 5 million for ours, even if we go up. chuck says:
November 16, 2009 at 5:06 am

Thing is chuck, that 50 million you talk of would currently only pay this years wages and a bit of the next, and thats if we spent it all in 1 hit. Spread it throughout the years, and that would take our wage bill down to 31 million a year.

Thats also presuming we manage 5 million a year in sponsership for naming the stadium. At this point i’d like to mention Arsenal and the Emirates. Their stadium is newer, bigger, in a more commercially friendly location, is graced with a team that rarely lose at home, play top class entertaining football, regularly qualify for the champions league et etc. The get 5.7 million for their stadium naming rights. We wont attract anywhere near 5 million for ours, even if we go up.

]]> By: chuck http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/ashley-gets-moat-vote/#comment-16631 chuck Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:06:03 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5909#comment-16631 Hmmmmm!  guess Barry is as pragmatic as The Halls, Freddy and Mike when it comes to making a buck. No nostalgia there. Just gonna have to get used to it,   as a general trend sweeping professional sports everywhere, wont be long before most clubs sell the naming rights. Hey if anyone was crazy enough to offer five million a year (not outside the realm of possibility) that`s  fifty million over ten tears. Now that aint hay and would pay a lot of salaries. Anyone who wants to retain the present name, that`s easy match the offered price.       Hmmmmm!  guess Barry is as pragmatic as The Halls, Freddy and Mike when it comes to making a buck.
No nostalgia there.
Just gonna have to get used to it,   as a general trend sweeping professional sports everywhere, wont be long before most clubs sell the naming rights.
Hey if anyone was crazy enough to offer five million a year (not outside the realm of possibility) that`s  fifty million over ten tears.
Now that aint hay and would pay a lot of salaries.
Anyone who wants to retain the present name, that`s easy match the offered price.
 
 
 

]]> By: Rangerman http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/ashley-gets-moat-vote/#comment-16622 Rangerman Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:39:55 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5909#comment-16622 What are these other ways to raise funds? What are these other ways to raise funds?

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