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		<title>By: lesh</title>
		<link>http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/del-deals-new-hand/#comment-16288</link>
		<dc:creator>lesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking about the NUST matter last night, does any bid have to be financed soley by the fans on the street?  I think not for what&#039;s happening now is a loose parallel with 22 years ago.

What happened then?  Fans were mobilised into a united voice for PR purposes and yet when it came to the crunch, who made the offers tothe then shareholders and then took control of the club?  The big hitters who had the millions to buy it!

Ok we&#039;re not dealing with shareholders here but an owner who&#039;d be tempted by a good offer.

Food for thought, that&#039;s all.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking about the NUST matter last night, does any bid have to be financed soley by the fans on the street?  I think not for what&#8217;s happening now is a loose parallel with 22 years ago.</p>
<p>What happened then?  Fans were mobilised into a united voice for PR purposes and yet when it came to the crunch, who made the offers tothe then shareholders and then took control of the club?  The big hitters who had the millions to buy it!</p>
<p>Ok we&#8217;re not dealing with shareholders here but an owner who&#8217;d be tempted by a good offer.</p>
<p>Food for thought, that&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>Anybody fa when t</p>
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		<title>By: Stardust</title>
		<link>http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/del-deals-new-hand/#comment-16255</link>
		<dc:creator>Stardust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>

BBM -NUSC have acted as donkeys since their inception. They rant and rave at the club about a lack of communication - then they open their mouths and they sound like idiots.
 
The difference is BBM - that they open their mouths and provide evidence (and lack of credibility) NUFC say little and you formed opinions based on in the main - rumour, myth and speculation. I am quite happy with my view thanks.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BBM -NUSC have acted as donkeys since their inception. They rant and rave at the club about a lack of communication &#8211; then they open their mouths and they sound like idiots.<br />
 <br />
The difference is BBM &#8211; that they open their mouths and provide evidence (and lack of credibility) NUFC say little and you formed opinions based on in the main &#8211; rumour, myth and speculation. I am quite happy with my view thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: lesh</title>
		<link>http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/del-deals-new-hand/#comment-16234</link>
		<dc:creator>lesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>22 years ago and some things never change do they!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.entrepreneur.com/tradejournals/article/print/186308044.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.entrepreneur.com/tradejournals/article/print/186308044.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>22 years ago and some things never change do they!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.entrepreneur.com/tradejournals/article/print/186308044.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.entrepreneur.com/tradejournals/article/print/186308044.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disagree WORKEY,
Yeah I am well aware of the sectarian, racist, problems surrounding both clubs and worry that they will bring it to places like St. James`es.
However there`s more than one scenario where they could be introduced.
One is the proposed two tier EPL,  to bring them into the lower tier of say two leagues with  a total of thirty six teams, while a re-arrangement of those teams excluded in the lower divisions would be necessary it by no means has to be exclusionary.
There will still be the three other divisions, which will naturally result in having fewer teams per league.
Not much different from the original founding of the EPL, simply adding a lower tier.
It`s my belief that once they became established and recipients of  tv`s largess they would become regulars in the top tier, therefore strengthening the league, to where it was no longer a division where four teams competed on an annual basis for silverware, but in fact one where any of  eight or ten teams could win the division.
It`s unfortunate that two  large once competitive teams are withering on the vine of SPL football , simply due to tv revenues.
I think they would bring both  added competition and strengthen the league, to where we have without doubt the strongest league in the world.
Plus  if relegated a decent league with more revenue as a fall back, the second tier.
Yeah for whatever reasons many will disagree but, Arry, M.O`N and others are in favor, so it`s not as if everyone is against it .
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disagree WORKEY,<br />
Yeah I am well aware of the sectarian, racist, problems surrounding both clubs and worry that they will bring it to places like St. James`es.<br />
However there`s more than one scenario where they could be introduced.<br />
One is the proposed two tier EPL,  to bring them into the lower tier of say two leagues with  a total of thirty six teams, while a re-arrangement of those teams excluded in the lower divisions would be necessary it by no means has to be exclusionary.<br />
There will still be the three other divisions, which will naturally result in having fewer teams per league.<br />
Not much different from the original founding of the EPL, simply adding a lower tier.<br />
It`s my belief that once they became established and recipients of  tv`s largess they would become regulars in the top tier, therefore strengthening the league, to where it was no longer a division where four teams competed on an annual basis for silverware, but in fact one where any of  eight or ten teams could win the division.<br />
It`s unfortunate that two  large once competitive teams are withering on the vine of SPL football , simply due to tv revenues.<br />
I think they would bring both  added competition and strengthen the league, to where we have without doubt the strongest league in the world.<br />
Plus  if relegated a decent league with more revenue as a fall back, the second tier.<br />
Yeah for whatever reasons many will disagree but, Arry, M.O`N and others are in favor, so it`s not as if everyone is against it .<br />
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		<title>By: bowburnmag</title>
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		<dc:creator>bowburnmag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;worky - I think what we&#039;ve got is a very publicly-scrutinised situation by virtue of the fact that they need to find out whether or not the money is there. I think they&#039;re plans may be based on the take-up.

If there is enough then it&#039;s a full buyout, if not they go to Ashley et al with an offer to contribute for a share of the club.

So for now they&#039;re keeping their cards close to their chest even though they&#039;re not even sure what cards they have. If that even makes sense?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>worky &#8211; I think what we&#8217;ve got is a very publicly-scrutinised situation by virtue of the fact that they need to find out whether or not the money is there. I think they&#8217;re plans may be based on the take-up.</p>
<p>If there is enough then it&#8217;s a full buyout, if not they go to Ashley et al with an offer to contribute for a share of the club.</p>
<p>So for now they&#8217;re keeping their cards close to their chest even though they&#8217;re not even sure what cards they have. If that even makes sense?</p>
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		<title>By: bowburnmag</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deb - nah, you know I wouldn&#039;t want fans risking their retirement funds nor do I like the notion that fan&#039;s passion and loyalty is being milked. I just see it that there doesn&#039;t have to be a major financial risk necessarily to get involved. Those who want to invest heavily could and would so with other ventures. Newcastle is just as likely to make money from the position we&#039;re in? It&#039;s the pregogative of the individuals? 

On the PR thing, yeah the Twitter thing came across a little crassly. But the decision to turn Llambias might be the right one in my opinion. Why does he want to talk all of a sudden? He had opportunities to before and he set the standard by declining their offer.

They are still clearly in the inception stages of the campaign. Meeting with Llambias would be counter-productive in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deb &#8211; nah, you know I wouldn&#8217;t want fans risking their retirement funds nor do I like the notion that fan&#8217;s passion and loyalty is being milked. I just see it that there doesn&#8217;t have to be a major financial risk necessarily to get involved. Those who want to invest heavily could and would so with other ventures. Newcastle is just as likely to make money from the position we&#8217;re in? It&#8217;s the pregogative of the individuals? </p>
<p>On the PR thing, yeah the Twitter thing came across a little crassly. But the decision to turn Llambias might be the right one in my opinion. Why does he want to talk all of a sudden? He had opportunities to before and he set the standard by declining their offer.</p>
<p>They are still clearly in the inception stages of the campaign. Meeting with Llambias would be counter-productive in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: workyticket</title>
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		<dc:creator>workyticket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bowburnmag says:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/del-deals-new-hand/#comment-16202&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;November 12, 2009 at 11:32 pm&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 

&quot;But is now the right time to judge them?&quot;

Usually, it&#039;s better to thouroughly examine an organisation before they take huge amounts of money, as leaving it until afterwards can often be a mistake. Sometimes people can stagger drukenly into things with boundless optimism, then wake up with a terrible hangover if they don&#039;t check the details first. The whole world has just found that out recently. I certainly wouldn&#039;t hand over any money to them until their financial plans are more open to scrutiny, and they&#039;ve spoken to Mike Ashley or Penfold about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bowburnmag says:<br />
<a href="http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/del-deals-new-hand/#comment-16202" rel="nofollow"><strong>November 12, 2009 at 11:32 pm</strong></a> </p>
<p>&#8220;But is now the right time to judge them?&#8221;</p>
<p>Usually, it&#8217;s better to thouroughly examine an organisation before they take huge amounts of money, as leaving it until afterwards can often be a mistake. Sometimes people can stagger drukenly into things with boundless optimism, then wake up with a terrible hangover if they don&#8217;t check the details first. The whole world has just found that out recently. I certainly wouldn&#8217;t hand over any money to them until their financial plans are more open to scrutiny, and they&#8217;ve spoken to Mike Ashley or Penfold about it.</p>
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		<title>By: CLiNT FLiCK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CLiNT FLiCK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t see what the PL would gain by having C &amp; R in there.
Aggro maybe?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t see what the PL would gain by having C &amp; R in there.<br />
Aggro maybe?<br />
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		<title>By: CLiNT FLiCK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CLiNT FLiCK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi bowburn,
it&#039;s abit sad that they&#039;ve seemingly already adopted a ever so slightly
shady approach, in not wanting to talk etc.
Maybe they haven&#039;t sorted everything out yet?
Which in it&#039;s self is worrying.
But none of it bodes well, does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi bowburn,<br />
it&#8217;s abit sad that they&#8217;ve seemingly already adopted a ever so slightly<br />
shady approach, in not wanting to talk etc.<br />
Maybe they haven&#8217;t sorted everything out yet?<br />
Which in it&#8217;s self is worrying.<br />
But none of it bodes well, does it?</p>
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		<title>By: komfort</title>
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		<dc:creator>komfort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>worky , your spot on -  like you say its the english league - what have these pluckys got to offer us ??? ... the answer is not one thing other than a load of drunk skirt wearing  jocks getting pissed and singing daft religious songs.

..do you think they would take us in if the rolls were reversed ??....no chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>worky , your spot on &#8211;  like you say its the english league &#8211; what have these pluckys got to offer us ??? &#8230; the answer is not one thing other than a load of drunk skirt wearing  jocks getting pissed and singing daft religious songs.</p>
<p>..do you think they would take us in if the rolls were reversed ??&#8230;.no chance.</p>
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