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Toon the 18th best supported team in Europe, 3rd in England.

Posted on November 6th, 2009 | 16 Comments |

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With an average attendance of 48,750 last season, Newcastle United are the 18th best supported team in Europe.

In England only Manchester United, who top the whole league, and Arsenal manage to beat Newcastle’s average attendance, although Celtic managed 9th and Rangers managed 16th.

Given the mess we were in last season and the fact that there were boycotts of some games, that’s not a bad showing at all, although we are down from the 12th position we achieved in 2007-2008.

Realistically, give the capacity of St James’ Park, the absolute best we could have achieved would have been 13th or 14th.

07-08 Attendance
1 2 Manchester United England 75,304
2 3 Borussia Dortmund xxxGermanyxxx 74,748
3 5 Barcelona Spain 71,045
4 1 Real Madrid Spain 70,816
5 4 Bayern Munich Germany 69,000
6 6 Schalke Germany 61,442
7 7 Arsenal England 60,040
8 9 AC Milan Italy 59,757
9 8 Celtic Scotland 57,366
10 13 Inter Milan Italy 55,520
11 10 Hamburg Germany 54,811
12 18 Hertha Berlin Germany 52,165
13 11 Marseille France 52,162
14 14 Stuttgart Germany 51,700
15 21 Cologne Germany 50,222
16 15 Rangers Scotland 49,534
17 16 Ajax Holland 49,014
18 12 Newcastle United England 48,750
19 29 Borussia Moenchengladbach Germany 47,240
20 17 Eintracht Frankfurt Germany 47,000
21 19 Atletico Madrid Spain 44,082
22 20 Feyenoord Holland 43,956
23 22 Liverpool England 43,611
24 25 Manchester City England 42,903
25 30 Hannover Germany 41,919
26 33 Sevilla Spain 41,910
27 26 Chelsea England 41,588
28 40 Paris Saint-Germain France 40,902
29 31 Werder Bremen Germany 40,375
30 27 Napoli Italy 40,303
31 24 Sunderland England 40,168
32 32 Aston Villa England 39,812
33 37 Roma Italy 39,492
34 35 FC Porto Portugal 38,762
35 36 Real Betis Spain 37,553
36 37 Lyon France 37,397
37 42 Tottenham Hotspur England 35,929
38 41 Athletic Bilbao Spain 35,737
39 34 Benfica Portugal 35,698
40 Lazio Italy 35,401
41 28 Valencia Spain 34,789
42 39 Everton England 34,021
43 45 West Ham United England 33,700
44 46 PSV Eindhoven Holland 33,371
45 Bayer Leverkusen Germany 33,079
46 Fenerbahce Turkey 33,030
47 47 Fiorentina Italy 31,509
48 Hoffenheim Germany 30,152
49 Middlesbrough England 28,429
50 Saint-Etienne France 28,168

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16 Responses

  1. where is Martins wolfsburg???? left newcastle for the money and now his team arent in the top 50… hahaha priceless

  2. quite surprised at the crowds the german clubs get. Dortmund 74k, amazed. I had no idea. I thought we would have been higher actually.

  3. Troy a lot of their grounds were refurbed / extended for Euro 2008 and I believe watching games there is much much cheaper than we have to pay.

  4. Troy – I got exactly the same surprise. I mean, I knew they were big on their footy but thought the grounds were smaller. Mags09 has explained that though.

    Not sure where part of my message went before, but I’ll ‘edit’ it so it makes sense.

    We are clearly micey. Case in point, I stopped watching regularly to concentrate on playing when we were just starting to get good and then sixteen years later, my circumstances change and I start watching again when we get relegated and we’re sh*te. My mate has sat in the same seat for seventeen years (where we sat in the Leazes) and in his old East Stand seat for 8 years befor that and despite being a cynical get, he wouldn’t change it for the world, even now. Can’t call us fickle in terms of loyalty only to glory, eh?

    Maybe that’s our problem? Nahhhh

    And no, I haven’t just got out……. :)

  5. I’m surprised Wigan aren’t up there – after all the noise Charlie N’Zogbia made about needing to go to a “bigger” club to further his international career LOL

  6. Off away for the day – but I feel safe and warm in the knowledge that my new protégé Stuart79 will defend the club and Mike Ashley at all costs today – and he will do his utmost to stop the Mob campaigning pointlessly tomorrow..

    Bravo Stuart. ;)

  7. New members…..

    For “the mob” read “any fan who isn’t Stardust and doesn’t agree exactly with all of his crazy views” LOL

    :)

  8. UTD111
    That`s a more baselessl statement than anything i have heard from Stardust.
    Can you just speak for yourself from now on.

  9. Troy Stavers
    It should be no surprise that the German clubs are right up there in league attendance.
    For one thing their prices are considerably lower than the PL, plus I believe they have certain areas where standing is still allowed, resulting in a more efficient method of using the available space.
    Not by any means an advocating a return to Standing on a terrace, did too much of that, prefer to sit.
    Seems the EPL still generates the most income, due to a combination of Tv. money and the fact they have an enormous worldwide following, also an entertaining style of football, a combination of speed, technique and a  certain physical nature.
    The result an easily marketable worldwide tv package, plus an enormous market for replica shirts etc.

  10. chuck says:
    November 6, 2009 at 6:31 pm
    UTD111
    That`s a more baselessl statement than anything i have heard from Stardust.
    Can you just speak for yourself from now on.
    ——————————————————
    Chucky

    Hang on mate ….I’m just looking up “baselessl”

    I’ll get back to you

    :)

  11. chuck says:
    November 6, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    “It should be no surprise that the German clubs are right up there in league attendance.”

    Chuck, you missed the main reason. Clubs on the mainland of Europe tend to have a bigger catchment area and that includes Germany. Berlin for instance, one of the major cities of the world has only one major team, Hertha.  Munich is another very large city and they only have Bayern and 1860 (currently in the German second division). Dortmund is only slightly smaller than Manchester and Salford put together, yet they only have one major team to Manchester and Salford’s two, or Birmingham’s three.

  12. WORKEY
    Yeah, suppose that`s right, also the fact they attract larger audiences could be a combination of larger grounds and lower priced tickets.
    At present it appears both Spurs and Liverpool intend to build new grounds ,Man U. have expanded, Arsenal have a new sixty thousand seater, so it appears an average of fifty thousand plus is required.
    Pity the Burnleys and other small town teams that even with such sized stadiums would  be all but impossible to fill.
    On catchment areas, one can wonder at the Clyde Valley area, which supports the majority of  teams from all the three leagues in Scotland, and probably has a smaller population than say the Ruhr valley in Germany,is that an exception too,  or does it prove the rule ?
     

  13. chuck says:
    November 7, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    “On catchment areas, one can wonder at the Clyde Valley area, which supports the majority of  teams from all the three leagues in Scotland, and probably has a smaller population than say the Ruhr valley in Germany,is that an exception too,  or does it prove the rule ?”

    There are exceptions Chuck, like Hoffenheim, which is a phenomenom under dream owner, Dietmar Hopp (Germany’s biggest software gadgie) and possibly Shalke04. Shalke is Gelsenkirchen which isnt a big city, but it emcopasses alot of smaller towns in the Ruhr Valley and they’re like Geordies, mining types who are absolutely gaga about football. Generally though, it is true.

    The big two in Scotland get huge crowds, partly due to religious warfare, but there’s no money in the Scottish league. Even a few games in the early stages of the Champions League can’t make up the shortfall for them.

  14. Workyticket @15 ..good call regarding Schalke 04 being from mining stock….in fact Gelsenkirchen and Newcastle are actually twinned cities….I have actually been to the new Schalke arena, absolutely mental !! the Schalke fans also have a traditional hatred of Dortmund as the toon v makkems….but only worse !!