Comments on: Toon the 18th best supported team in Europe, 3rd in England. http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/toon-the-18th-best-supported-team-in-europe-3rd-in-england/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:32:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Munich Mag http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/toon-the-18th-best-supported-team-in-europe-3rd-in-england/#comment-41512 Munich Mag Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:23:40 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5528#comment-41512 Workyticket @15 ..good call regarding Schalke 04 being from mining stock....in fact Gelsenkirchen and Newcastle are actually twinned cities....I have actually been to the new Schalke arena, absolutely mental !! the Schalke fans also have a traditional hatred of Dortmund as the toon v makkems....but only worse !! Workyticket @15 ..good call regarding Schalke 04 being from mining stock….in fact Gelsenkirchen and Newcastle are actually twinned cities….I have actually been to the new Schalke arena, absolutely mental !! the Schalke fans also have a traditional hatred of Dortmund as the toon v makkems….but only worse !!

]]> By: workyticket http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/toon-the-18th-best-supported-team-in-europe-3rd-in-england/#comment-15086 workyticket Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:05:41 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5528#comment-15086 <p>chuck <span class="says">says:</span> <a href="http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/toon-the-18th-best-supported-team-in-europe-3rd-in-england/#comment-15083" rel="nofollow"><strong><span style="color: #21759b;">November 7, 2009 at 8:34 pm</span></strong></a> "On catchment areas, one can wonder at the Clyde Valley area, which supports the majority of  teams from all the three leagues in Scotland, and probably has a smaller population than say the Ruhr valley in Germany,is that an exception too,  or does it prove the rule ?" There are exceptions Chuck, like Hoffenheim, which is a phenomenom under dream owner, Dietmar Hopp (Germany's biggest software gadgie) and possibly Shalke04. Shalke is Gelsenkirchen which isnt a big city, but it emcopasses alot of smaller towns in the Ruhr Valley and they're like Geordies, mining types who are absolutely gaga about football. Generally though, it is true. The big two in Scotland get huge crowds, partly due to religious warfare, but there's no money in the Scottish league. Even a few games in the early stages of the Champions League can't make up the shortfall for them.</p> chuck says:
November 7, 2009 at 8:34 pm

“On catchment areas, one can wonder at the Clyde Valley area, which supports the majority of  teams from all the three leagues in Scotland, and probably has a smaller population than say the Ruhr valley in Germany,is that an exception too,  or does it prove the rule ?”

There are exceptions Chuck, like Hoffenheim, which is a phenomenom under dream owner, Dietmar Hopp (Germany’s biggest software gadgie) and possibly Shalke04. Shalke is Gelsenkirchen which isnt a big city, but it emcopasses alot of smaller towns in the Ruhr Valley and they’re like Geordies, mining types who are absolutely gaga about football. Generally though, it is true.

The big two in Scotland get huge crowds, partly due to religious warfare, but there’s no money in the Scottish league. Even a few games in the early stages of the Champions League can’t make up the shortfall for them.

]]> By: chuck http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/toon-the-18th-best-supported-team-in-europe-3rd-in-england/#comment-15083 chuck Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:34:28 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5528#comment-15083 WORKEY Yeah, suppose that`s right, also the fact they attract larger audiences could be a combination of larger grounds and lower priced tickets. At present it appears both Spurs and Liverpool intend to build new grounds ,Man U. have expanded, Arsenal have a new sixty thousand seater, so it appears an average of fifty thousand plus is required. Pity the Burnleys and other small town teams that even with such sized stadiums would  be all but impossible to fill. On catchment areas, one can wonder at the Clyde Valley area, which supports the majority of  teams from all the three leagues in Scotland, and probably has a smaller population than say the Ruhr valley in Germany,is that an exception too,  or does it prove the rule ?   WORKEY
Yeah, suppose that`s right, also the fact they attract larger audiences could be a combination of larger grounds and lower priced tickets.
At present it appears both Spurs and Liverpool intend to build new grounds ,Man U. have expanded, Arsenal have a new sixty thousand seater, so it appears an average of fifty thousand plus is required.
Pity the Burnleys and other small town teams that even with such sized stadiums would  be all but impossible to fill.
On catchment areas, one can wonder at the Clyde Valley area, which supports the majority of  teams from all the three leagues in Scotland, and probably has a smaller population than say the Ruhr valley in Germany,is that an exception too,  or does it prove the rule ?
 

]]> By: workyticket http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/toon-the-18th-best-supported-team-in-europe-3rd-in-england/#comment-14964 workyticket Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:28:06 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5528#comment-14964 chuck says: <a href="http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/toon-the-18th-best-supported-team-in-europe-3rd-in-england/#comment-14959" rel="nofollow"><strong><span style="color: #21759b;">November 6, 2009 at 6:57 pm</span></strong></a> <p>"It should be no surprise that the German clubs are right up there in league attendance." </p> <p>Chuck, you missed the main reason. Clubs on the mainland of Europe tend to have a bigger catchment area and that includes Germany. Berlin for instance, one of the major cities of the world has only one major team, Hertha.  Munich is another very large city and they only have Bayern and 1860 (currently in the German second division). Dortmund is only slightly smaller than Manchester and Salford put together, yet they only have one major team to Manchester and Salford's two, or Birmingham's three.</p> chuck says:
November 6, 2009 at 6:57 pm

“It should be no surprise that the German clubs are right up there in league attendance.”

Chuck, you missed the main reason. Clubs on the mainland of Europe tend to have a bigger catchment area and that includes Germany. Berlin for instance, one of the major cities of the world has only one major team, Hertha.  Munich is another very large city and they only have Bayern and 1860 (currently in the German second division). Dortmund is only slightly smaller than Manchester and Salford put together, yet they only have one major team to Manchester and Salford’s two, or Birmingham’s three.

]]> By: UTD111 http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/toon-the-18th-best-supported-team-in-europe-3rd-in-england/#comment-14960 UTD111 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:02:10 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5528#comment-14960 chuck says: <a href="http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/toon-the-18th-best-supported-team-in-europe-3rd-in-england/#comment-14955" rel="nofollow"><strong>November 6, 2009 at 6:31 pm</strong></a> UTD111 That`s a more baselessl statement than anything i have heard from Stardust. Can you just speak for yourself from now on. ------------------------------------------------------ Chucky Hang on mate ....I'm just looking up "baselessl" I'll get back to you :) chuck says:
November 6, 2009 at 6:31 pm
UTD111
That`s a more baselessl statement than anything i have heard from Stardust.
Can you just speak for yourself from now on.
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Chucky

Hang on mate ….I’m just looking up “baselessl”

I’ll get back to you

:)

]]> By: chuck http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/toon-the-18th-best-supported-team-in-europe-3rd-in-england/#comment-14959 chuck Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:57:42 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5528#comment-14959 Troy Stavers It should be no surprise that the German clubs are right up there in league attendance. For one thing their prices are considerably lower than the PL, plus I believe they have certain areas where standing is still allowed, resulting in a more efficient method of using the available space. Not by any means an advocating a return to Standing on a terrace, did too much of that, prefer to sit. Seems the EPL still generates the most income, due to a combination of Tv. money and the fact they have an enormous worldwide following, also an entertaining style of football, a combination of speed, technique and a  certain physical nature. The result an easily marketable worldwide tv package, plus an enormous market for replica shirts etc. Troy Stavers
It should be no surprise that the German clubs are right up there in league attendance.
For one thing their prices are considerably lower than the PL, plus I believe they have certain areas where standing is still allowed, resulting in a more efficient method of using the available space.
Not by any means an advocating a return to Standing on a terrace, did too much of that, prefer to sit.
Seems the EPL still generates the most income, due to a combination of Tv. money and the fact they have an enormous worldwide following, also an entertaining style of football, a combination of speed, technique and a  certain physical nature.
The result an easily marketable worldwide tv package, plus an enormous market for replica shirts etc.

]]> By: chuck http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/toon-the-18th-best-supported-team-in-europe-3rd-in-england/#comment-14955 chuck Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:31:23 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5528#comment-14955 UTD111 That`s a more baselessl statement than anything i have heard from Stardust. Can you just speak for yourself from now on. UTD111
That`s a more baselessl statement than anything i have heard from Stardust.
Can you just speak for yourself from now on.

]]> By: UTD111 http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/toon-the-18th-best-supported-team-in-europe-3rd-in-england/#comment-14907 UTD111 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:08:06 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5528#comment-14907 New members..... For "the mob" read "any fan who isn't Stardust and doesn't agree exactly with all of his crazy views" LOL :) New members…..

For “the mob” read “any fan who isn’t Stardust and doesn’t agree exactly with all of his crazy views” LOL

:)

]]> By: Stardust http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/toon-the-18th-best-supported-team-in-europe-3rd-in-england/#comment-14904 Stardust Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:02:49 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5528#comment-14904 Off away for the day - but I feel safe and warm in the knowledge that my new <strong>protégé Stuart79 </strong>will defend the club and Mike Ashley at all costs today - and he will do his utmost to stop the Mob campaigning pointlessly tomorrow.. Bravo Stuart. ;) Off away for the day – but I feel safe and warm in the knowledge that my new protégé Stuart79 will defend the club and Mike Ashley at all costs today – and he will do his utmost to stop the Mob campaigning pointlessly tomorrow..

Bravo Stuart. ;)

]]> By: UTD111 http://www.nufcblog.org/2009/11/toon-the-18th-best-supported-team-in-europe-3rd-in-england/#comment-14902 UTD111 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:40:15 +0000 http://www.nufcblog.org/?p=5528#comment-14902 I'm surprised Wigan aren't up there - after all the noise Charlie N'Zogbia made about needing to go to a "bigger" club to further his international career LOL I’m surprised Wigan aren’t up there – after all the noise Charlie N’Zogbia made about needing to go to a “bigger” club to further his international career LOL

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