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Posted on February 23rd, 2010 | 97 Comments |

Should Ashley sack Hughton if he gets Newcastle promoted?
Should Ashley sack Hughton if he gets Newcastle promoted?
I feel somewhat strange writing about this as promotion is by far from a certainty yet, although even the most downbeat fan has to be looking up at the Premier League and thinking a swift return looks more and more likely as the weeks and games pass by.

However, inspired by Simon Bird, let’s discuss what could possibly be one of owner Mike Ashley’s biggest problem should we go up. Do we stick with Hughton or do we change manager again?

Not many Toon fans wouldn’t pat current boss Chris Hughton on the back for the amazing job he has done in taking Newcastle United 5 points clear at the top of The Championship. We can’t deny it, it’s there in print, and despite a certain number of fans fearing the worst before the season kicked off, Hughton has slowly turned it around. We can look at individual games where perhaps things could have been done better tactically, Leicester away is a prime example, but what we do have to admit is that the majority of the time Hughton has hit the nail on the head and got the tactics right and earned the results we needed.

With 14 games remaining, Chris Hughton is close to finishing his objective for the season – to get the club promoted. Some would argue that given the players we have we should have always been contenders for automatic promotion and that a monkey could manage us to the top of the league, some will say that Hughton has galvanised a team that look dejected, uninterested and low on morale and turned us into a team in the truest sense of the word, with players working for each other, none of the in-fighting goes on anymore, or if it does then at least we don’t get to hear about it which in itself is an improvement.

So what happens next? Say the job does get finished and come May 2nd at approximately 3pm, collectively we are celebrating promotion. What then? Who is the man to take us forward?

It would be harsh and unfair on Chris Hughton for him not to be given a shot at Premier League management, after all it has been his work that got us promoted in the first place. On the hand, people will look back at Hughton’s previous foray into Premier League management which was quite poor on the whole. Yes you can look at disjointed dressing rooms and club turmoil, but if your going to be a manager in the Premier League you need to rise above all that and get the team ready to and get one of those things that as a manager you will be judged by, a result.

With that fresh in our minds, perhaps a move for a more experienced Premier League manager could be the way to go? Mark Hughes is currently out of work and has experience of working with a budget at Blackburn Rovers as well as experience of managing a Premier League club. A good choice I’m sure you’ll agree, but could he work with our current owner? I personally think no, whereas Hughton has demonstrated already that he can. Granted, Ash may splash some cash in the summer, but would it be enough for Mark Hughes who is perhaps more used to the vast transfer budgets on offer at Manchester City.

Speaking of budgets, whether it be Chris Hughton or someone else who takes charge, they will undoubtedly be working on a budget. Would a ‘bigger’ manager be able to get more bang for his buck so to speak? Could a ‘bigger’ manager identify areas of the team that need improvement quickly, and get the required quality at the required price to improve us? That is a question up for debate along with many others.

One thing any manager will need is time, and this is where I think Hughton could flourish. After his sterling work so far this season, one of the things he has earned must be time. Patience is not one of Newcastle United fan’s strongest points usually, we are and always have been quick to voice our opinions. Time is something Chris Hughton may have earned, especially after the impromptu vocal backing from the crowd at the Preston game.

As with anything, time will tell.

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97 Responses

  1. I’d prefer Hughton to Hughes, but if any of Nolan, Smith or Guthrie are regular first teamers next season then we have no hope no matter who is in charge

  2. I cant believe I am reading this. I find it unbelievable to think that Chris Hughton would be replaced. I am a life long Newcastle fan, but have people not learned anything from the past 10 years? It shouldnt even be a topic whether we carry on with CH as manager. I for one take it as given that he is. We need consistency not a “bigger” manager. The lads at the moment are playing FOR their manager and their fans equally, you dont get that bond overnight. Seriously have a word with yourself…

  3. you can’t get rid of CH if we go up. Considering the main aim of next season would be staying up, CH is our man. Give him some money to invest sensibly in and around the team we have now and I think we might even finish mid/low-mid table.

    See how the season is going at christmas and then the end. I’m not sure ch is the man to take us to Europe but that I’m afraid is a few seasons off yet.

  4. alan, shearer has paid his dues but is doesn’t mean we should sack CH and bring Shearer in on a romantic whim.

  5. Andy Horne – That’s why I wrote this, so we can discuss it.

    Im of the midset that hughton has earned a chance, depsite being at games last season where he was woefully out of ideas.

    However, back then he had never experienced managment. Now he has some, things may or may not be different. Time will tell.

  6. I have to say that Hughton is not the most astute of managers as so far this season has shown

    Plan ‘A’ home Plan ‘A’ away
    Plan ‘B’ revert to plan ‘A’

    BUT to get shot of him is absolutely ridiculous the termoil of many seasons past has obviously taught us nothing. Since Sir Bobby (giant among men) Robson was sacked unceremoniously we have lerched from one bad manager to another which compounded the fact of poor players on massive money to our disaster of last season. He may not be the man to take us to any kind of glory but if he can make us a side to stay up for a season or two and then hand over or himself build from there (which I doubt) then so be it he has earned that right if nothing else. And ONLY he could step away from the premiership job if he did not feel competent.

  7. I think that CH has to be in charge come next season if we get promoted. There can be no question about it, Alan Shearer may well be a fantastic servent to NUFC but that does not make him a good manager…

    We have had big names in the past and they have not exactly worked out well! Gullit, Souness, Daglish and Allardyce to name but a few.

    Andy Hone is spot on we need consistency at this club it seems to me that he has made a couple of mistakes this season but what manager doesn’t?? Judging by the signings in January he has a fairly decent eye for a player without breaking the bank seems to me that he is an ideal manager for us in our situation with money being so tight.

  8. Shearer could not motivate his best mates Owen, Duff and Butt when we only needed a point from our last 2 games. if he couldn’t do it then, then when ? Great player, manager not so sure.

  9. sorry to say but as much as i admire his work this season I think he’ll fall short in the prem.. I’d go for Souza from swansea.. his football would be perfect for us geordies and he seems a sensible manager..

  10. aye i have me doubts with hughton,but he needs to be givin his chance at the top table,if hes not up to it then we can still change him and it wont be all bad,but lets give him his chance first before we get the pitch folks out.

  11. Hy head says, stick with Hughton, don’t disrespect him.

    My heart says mehhh, Hughton?… Let’s just have a peak at what else is available…

    In all fairness though Hughton has been the manager at the front of a promotion season, when the club has been in transition from a disaster last year.

    I would stick with Hughton anyway, because when things start going wrong – relegation fears creep in, there is no doubt that he will be the first to go. As fans, the collective majority will want Hughton to go – it’s been shown before this season how vocal people get about Hughton’s tactics.

  12. If Hughton gets us promoted I think he should be given every chance to prove himself in the Premiership. He will have earned that opportunity IMHO.

  13. Think its bad taste to suggest Hughton goes in favour of a “name” most of whom have failed us in the past.

    Chris has shown himself to be a thinking man – preparing the team for each game with the objective of promotion. If he achieves it he has to be admired for getting his team to gel and they collectively triumphing in adversity.

    I expect him to continue as he has this year – steadily growing and developing the team, steadily improving, with all of the team onboard.

    Our biggest peril is the fans – have they learned or learned nothing….articles like this suggesting its even for debate suggest the latter…but I understand thats not Toonsy’s motives – its only by articles like this, and the subsequent posts, that will provide us with the real measure of the answer.

  14. @mark no 14….sousa…nah not likely yeah he plays decent football but Hughton has earned his postion.

    Let him stay….17 clean sheets this season should put us in good stead for next season. The main thing is to keep the squad together!!

    As brutal as it sounds most of our players arent going to the world cup so it shouldnt be to hard to keep the core players together!!

  15. “I am a life long Newcastle fan, but have people not learned anything from the past 10 years?”

    Answer in a nutshell Andy Hone is “NO”.

    The vast majority of NUFC fans are knee jerk reactionists who almost always choose the wrong knee jerk reaction :)

  16. I have often aired my concerns over CH’s tactics and team selection and tbh im not sure he has what it takes to be a prem manager. But to let him get us promotion then say thanks for everything Chris but your fired would be pretty low in my opinion. He deserves the chance to prove if he can keep us up, and if it doesn’t work out we can make the decision to replace him then.

  17. if we get promoted and it looks like we will,,fat ash cannot sack chrissy hughton.!!
    we will need to start next season with stability and continuity to give us a good pre-season and see how we go from there.
    if we sack ch at the end of the season its back to square one for me.!!

  18. Shearer would say that haha, you would be hard pushed to find anybody who would speak against Hughton being rewarded with his efforts with a crack at the top flight.

    Give Hughton until January, at least, and only get rid of him if he is completely hopeless after bringing quality players in without any other excuses.

  19. i’m delighted to see 81% no, chris has done a excellent job and deserves a shot. this is chris’s team unlike last time out in the prem when he had a bunch of over payed egotistical so called stars. I believe with a couple of clever signings we’ll stay up should we be promoted come may. nufc fans have been incredible this season and have played a huge part in our revival lets continue our fantastic support for chris and the lads!

  20. I like many have questioned CH and his lack of tactics and defensive ways this season but when all has been said and done the table does not tell lies and all in all Chris has kept us at the top all season so to knock him and his efforts would just be silly from where I am sitting.

    If we do get promoted I think he could be signing his own NUFC death sentence as with his current team and not much cash for reinforcements CH will struggle with life back in the top flight.

    In my opinion CH would do himself the most favours by just missing out on promotion by a point or two and saving his own ass and spending another year in the fizzy’s whilst providing to the needs of his family :)

    That is my conspiracy for the day.

    Meandering on topic though if we did get promoted and we are a pile of steaming horse turd after 10 games under CH what do we do give him another 10 or sack him off early doors?

    Moyes or Hodgson are the men for me,good names,command player respect and don’t moan like fookin babies and get on with the job!
    Mark Hughes is plop and glad we never got Steve Bruce who is another w****r.

  21. I like many have questioned CH and his lack of tactics and defensive ways this season but when all has been said and done the table does not tell lies and all in all Chris has kept us at the top all season so to knock him and his efforts would just be silly from where I am sitting.

    If we do get promoted I think he could be signing his own NUFC death sentence as with his current team and not much cash for reinforcements CH will struggle with life back in the top flight.

    In my opinion CH would do himself the most favours by just missing out on promotion by a point or two and saving his own ass and spending another year in the fizzy’s whilst providing to the needs of his family

    That is my conspiracy for the day.

    Meandering on topic though if we did get promoted and we are a pile of steaming horse turd after 10 games under CH what do we do give him another 10 or sack him off early doors?

    Moyes or Hodgson are the men for me,good names,command player respect and don’t moan like fookin babies and get on with the job!
    Mark Hughes is plop and glad we never got Steve Bruce who is another w****r.

  22. CH deserves his chance but the team needs huge amounts of money invested to compete but this wont happen & CH

  23. will get kicked into touch.

    therefore i’d like to think he is rewarded at the end of this season with a 5 year contract & at least he can walk away with a few quid for his troubles.

  24. I think an 80/20 split in favour of Hughton having a crack says a lot about how much respect he has earned to be honest.

  25. sorry to go against the majority here lads and lasses but ‘on the basis that he has got us promoted’ is no reason to stick with Hughton. By that reckoning Smith, Nolan, Carroll, Ameobi et al deserve their chance too. Far too sentimental in my opinion. Hughton inherited the strongest squad in the championship by far. I admit we were a dispirited bunch, but still easily the best equiped team in the league. Is the improvement in attitude solely down to Hughton? How big a part in the attitude adjustment did the so called players’ council play? I have no doubt we owe players like Nolan, Smith and Butt a massive debt of gratitude this season (not last however)for there work on and particularly off the field BUT should we play them next season in the premiership if we get there? Should we bollox. Unfortunately the joke that is the transfer window does not allow you any time to judge a player/manager for a couple of months before deciding whether or not they are going to be good enough to do the job. Would Chris Hughton have enough about him to attract the right players to the frozen north that is Newcastle, given that we will most likely be shopping in the bargain basement and offering lower end wages compared to many of our competitors. I don’t think he will (Killgallon, Beckford, Moses) Unfortunately he’s earned a shot at the job but we might not be able to take the chance. Sentimentality plays no part in professional football. Remember, many supporters favourite David Kelly did more than most to help us secure promotion the last time we made it to the top division but he was sold before the next season came around. There are never any guarantees but if we go up Ashley has to thank Chris Hughton for his hard work, even keep him on as a coach, but then appoint his replacement. The difficult decision is not should we keep Hughton but who should we replace him with?

  26. No the difficult decision is whether we should try to keep hold of fans like you who have no idea what you’re taliking about. How the hell do you think players would react if Hughton was elbowed just after winning promotion ?

    Hughton has worked with this team all season and has managed, with limited funds available, to mould them into a team capable of winning promotion at the first attempt.

    When he gets us there he is entitled to ask Fatboy for funds to strengthen and also to merge whatever quality he has with new incoming talent.

    Continuity is the name of the game not the “hire em fire em” philosophy straight out of Fat Freddie’s “How to be a Chairman” manual.

  27. SJT – I can’t moderate them, I’m not setup to yet although I can read what you said.

    The last word should be written like w*nker :lol:

    I can paste it on here of you wish?

  28. AndyMac completely missing the point and not reading the whole story or the comments I have made there :lol:

  29. We have seen CH learn his trade as a interim manager, both under the eyes of management and within a tight budget. So far, he has passed with flying colors. Maybe he has used some players too much, but a large part of that is attributable to the small squad. He (and mgt)has enlarged the squad, with players a cut above the opposition. One can expect the same moving up to the PL. Mgt (and CH)don’t have much of a ROI or future in the Championship. If NUFC bring in players who are mentally stable, and a have a reasonable expectation about wages, then CH does not have to be a Gus Hiddnick doing magic with monumental egos. What he may have to deal with will be monumental egos coming out of the youth system, and that will be where Hughton will get his real test. If, say, the Toon Army love Nile Ranger, and Ranger wants to be paid like Rooney, then you have the real test.

  30. Good points re Wages BeeGuy…say we sign a decent youngster on sensible wages we develop them and a team comes knocking a few years later with mega wages they will be off like a shot if you ask me.

    Maybe Mike wants the developed players to be poached though to make more cash from the club.

  31. I like many have questioned CH and his lack of tactics and defensive ways this season but when all has been said and done the table does not tell lies and all in all Chris has kept us at the top all season so to knock him and his efforts would just be silly from where I am sitting.

    If we do get promoted I think he could be signing his own NUFC death sentence as with his current team and not much cash for reinforcements CH will struggle with life back in the top flight.

    In my opinion CH would do himself the most favours by just missing out on promotion by a point or two and saving his own ass and spending another year in the fizzy’s whilst providing to the needs of his family

    That is my conspiracy for the day.

    Meandering on topic though if we did get promoted and we are a pile of steaming horse turd after 10 games under CH what do we do give him another 10 or sack him off early doors?

    Moyes or Hodgson are the men for me,good names,command player respect and don’t moan like fookin babies and get on with the job!
    Mark Hughes is plop and glad we never got Steve Bruce who is another tosser.

  32. Haha I had to fish out the roget’s thesaurus for that one Toonsy :)
    I know not to use the word w@nker in future and s@unthorpe haha

  33. Was mentioned this morning on here Dave think it was on the last thread…next time I punch my girlfriend in the face I know who to blame when I am in the dock….”Judge I was watching Joey outside Mcdonalds on Youtube…….”

  34. @Alan

    “Alan shearer should be given the job. He’s paid his dues.”

    You have to say that the only reason Al got a shot at the job last season was as a result of the board’s blind panic as the prospect of relegation loomed ever larger, and we found ourselves without a manager yet again at the worst possible time.

    I just don’t see why people think it would be a good idea.

    Coaching badge or not, he isn’t a proven manager, and he didn’t have time to influence things one way or the other in his very short stint in charge. We didn’t see enough to gauge how he might have done if he’d been given a fair crack at the job under normal circumstances.

    I also have to say that I would hate to see him take it on, and not succeed. There are plenty of examples of legendary ex-players taking on the management role at their former clubs, and sometimes ending up severing all ties with the club when they’re forced out.

  35. SJT I know it doesn’t make what Joey did right, but by the sound of it the fella is a grade 1 tosser.
    DarthBroon The problem with Big Al is that untill he gets the chance to prove he can do the Job or not, he is going to be like a monkey on the Managers back

  36. Think its bad taste to suggest Hughton goes in favour of a “name” most of whom have failed us in the past.

    Chris has shown himself to be a thinking man – preparing the team for each game with the objective of promotion. If he achieves it he has to be admired for getting his team to gel and they collectively triumphing in adversity.

    I expect him to continue as he has this year – steadily growing and developing the team, steadily improving, with all of the team onboard.

    Not to mention improving himself after all this is his 1st season as manager and lets not forget the added factor of him bringing back the clubs dignity personally i would keep him but lets see what he does next season and aslong as he doesn’t have a rediculousely low popints total by then keep him till the end of the season.

    Big dave, yeah i heard about that dont get me wrong barton is a twat but he can not blame Barton for him beating up his girl friend sometimes you have to take responsiblity for your actions.

  37. @Sawdust

    “Our biggest peril is the fans ”

    ‘Our’ biggest peril may well be you! You pompous tosser

    “– have they learned or learned nothing….articles like this suggesting its even for debate suggest the latter…but I understand thats not Toonsy’s motives – its only by articles like this, and the subsequent posts, that will provide us with the real measure of the answer.”

    F*cking gibberish.

  38. Going off on one. how did west brom manage to sign ben watson on loan without us being in the running. the lad fits fcb credentials and is the best midfielder seen at st james this season. a different class to anything we have got.

    I guess signing him would have meant less game time for Nolan, Smith and Butt. Surely that couldn’t have been the reason we didn’t sign a quality midfielder in the window. No surely not

  39. I just want a manager who likes his teams to play decent passing football.

    From what I’ve seen that isn’t Hughton’s philosophy, but ya never know that might change.

    Doubt it though. It got Alladyce the sack and history might repeat itself.

  40. @ DeathStools

    …..same old DeathStools – always smelling……

    Feel kinda flattered to have a stalker…even if it is a smelly one.

  41. @Big Dave

    “The problem with Big Al is that untill he gets the chance to prove he can do the Job or not, he is going to be like a monkey on the Managers back”

    I know what you’re saying, Dave. But what’s to be done?

    Al turned down the opportunity manage other clubs after we were relegated, so I’m not sure he’s that keen on the idea of management as a career anyway.

    In fairness to Al, he’s been very complementary to CH. What more can he do?

  42. @Sawdust

    “Feel kinda flattered to have a stalker…even if it is a smelly one.”

    A f*cking big eye for an avatar and you fixate on smells. You really are a plank.

    You’ll have me as a ‘stalker’ as long as you keep posting garbage. So I guess you’ll just have to put up with me.

  43. i think next year:

    out:
    Krul
    Butt
    Pancrate
    Hall
    Ameobi
    Xisco
    Nolan/Smith.

    That will come to about 7m for them, and say the fat man gives Chris 10/15m and use the 7m as well and spend well i think we could do okay, i came up with a team of:

    Harper
    S.Taylor Williamson Coloccini Enrique
    Routledge Barton O’hara Jonas
    Rodallega Carroll.

    Subs: Forster, Simpson, Belhadj, Guthrie, Nolan, Lovenkrands, Best.

    With R.Taylor, Ranger, Kadar, Vuckic having gained more experience i think that team good see us to safety next season, what do people reckon??

  44. To all those suggesting Paulo Sousa “because his teams play good football” – remember a lot of you were wanting Roberto Martinez to be manager too. Not exactly genius suggestions, are they?

    Don’t be obsessed with the pretty football. Teams who play it constantly rarely win anything. See Arsenal and Swansea as good examples.

    Even the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea play ugly when needed and if you are honest enough to face the facts – we play ugly when needed and have played good football when possible, as shown by recent home results and the Ipswich match.

  45. @Sawdust

    I think I’ve hit on something there, Sawdust.

    Change your avatar to a big f*cking nose.

    And shove it up your multi-chinned hero’s arse.

  46. Poor lil BabyBoom

    posting garbage? isnt that recycling?

    to recycle suggests a new life and energy for an object or thing. Re-invented for todays world – to make it useful, exciting and new whilst been sound and ethical.

    Yes – I like the analogy – I will keep “posting garbage” – it seems I am appreciated. xx

  47. i think next year:

    out:
    Krul
    Butt
    Pancrate
    Hall
    Ameobi
    Xisco
    Nolan/Smith.

    That will come to about 7m for them, and say the fat man gives Chris 10/15m and use the 7m as well and spend well i think we could do okay, i came up with a team of:

    Harper
    S.Taylor Williamson Coloccini Enrique
    Routledge Barton O’hara Jonas
    Rodallega Carroll.

    Subs: Forster, Simpson, Belhadj, Guthrie, Nolan, Lovenkrands, Best.

    With R.Taylor, Ranger, Kadar, Vuckic having gained more experience i think that team good see us to safety next season, what do people reckon??

  48. ch is a coach full stop s**t tactics we have fluked so far this season by far the worst football a have seen last 20 years from us we pay the highest wages by miles with this squad best in ccc dare say joe f****n kinnear would have took us up in the summer ashley didnt even attempt to get us up one signing danny simp then realsied we mite have a chance we are shit at the moment hard to say like does any one want to be like stoke bolton wigan blackburn route one

  49. swansea forest wba much better football teams than us does any like watchin us this season dogshite man

  50. What a thread! Nice on Toonsy – appreciate that you have to ask the unsavoury questions sometimes and the support for CH says it all.

    Stardust @18 – spot on fella.

    Summerof69 makes a good point about Hughton’s ability to apply sense and to learn and I’m going to stick my neck out by saying that I think maybe he CAN take us to the top level. Unlike all our previous gaffers – and anyone elses’s for that matter – he has shown that he can constantly learn and adapt.

    Add to that the fact that he is one of very few decent blokes in the game and I’m more than happy. Much respect to wor Chris – and Calderwood too.

  51. It may be said at the end of the season that CH is a good Championship coach, but that’s it for now. If we’re promoted, how many PL sides might he be capable of defeating tactically? In other words, where does his ability max out? Would he be the man to keep us in the top half? I personally have my doubts.
    As for no.9, do legends make coaches? Who knows, but I don’t think it’s automatic by any means and he hasn’t demonstrated greatness as a manager.
    In other sports, say Major League baseball, many managers weren’t the best players but instead had the “coaching mind”; an indefinable gift for tactics, strategy, and ability to get the best from their players.
    In sports, no one deserves their position, they have to earn it. Maybe CH will be a better PL manager than before because of his reign this year.
    So many ifs…

  52. Glad to see Hughton getting a lot of support on here, a sensible man sensibly managing a football club, unlike a lot of fans I can’t predict how Chris will fair next season but all we can do is stand by him, as he has stood by us over the last 2 years. Can’t find a bad word to say about him and he always is the epitome of composure. Keep up the good work.

  53. Evening lads, havent commented the day but i’ve been reading through and as far as I’m concerned, its only right that Hughton gets a crack next season should we be promoted. When was the last time we had a group of players wanting to play for the shirt as opposed to the coin going into their back pocket?. The team Hughton has put together seem Hungry to perform and a few apparent shrewd signings along the way has strengthened the squad when needed. To say thanks but no thanks after he’s proved the doubters wrong by taking us to the top flight inside a season again (touch wood) would be somewhat unfair I think. We also moan about stability constantly, this would be same old same old NUFC.

    Also, a bit late but Big Dave @ 46. Probably one of the most pathetic things i’ve read for a while like. Barton is a little rotter himself but to beat your wife and blame it on somebody else’s influence is laughably immature. I’d have locked him up for trying to use that as an excuse! Also-nee one bite my head off because like i’ve said, Joey is the opposite of perfect, but people seem to forget this lad was trying to set Bartons shirt alight, “for a laugh”. I think if i turned round to see some young lad giggling away as he tried to set fire to the clothing i was wearing, i’d probably retaliate too. Just a shame Barton did so in such a ridiculous manner. Had he just swiftly put him on his arse there would have been nowt said about it.

  54. Agreed Ross Joey was reacting after Tandy was winding him up…Knowing Joey as he probably did saying as they trained together he is not the type I would go looking to wind up at a party….I think Tandy sounds like a little Turd and should have done some jail time on that basis alone :)

    Come on JB looking forward to seeing you back in the mix and keeping out of bother and wearing the Toon shirt with pride like we know you can and proving the media and the doubters that you have grown up.

  55. If Newcastle United are promoted, should Mike Ashley sack Chris Hughton and get a manager with a bigger name?
    No? (76%, 249 Votes)

    Not a bad result so far for Chris.

  56. SJT-like I said I’m not condoning Bartons behaviour with that certain incident or any, but surely this lad had the common sense not to wind up someone like him? lol. It doesnt excuse the ridiculous behaviour but its quite obvious Barton was going to react in a less than suitable manner! Again I may take grief but I am under the impression like you that Barton could be a player for us if he could sort out his off field antics. He doesn’t deserve the chances he’s been given but its just frustrating because I think he has it in him to be a canny footballer. We’ll see what happens when he returns I suppose. Does anyone know when he’ll be available?

  57. sirjasontoon says:
    February 23, 2010 at 6:41 pm
    sirjasontoon says:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    February 23, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    “Huh?”

    You accused Steve Bruce of being an onanist, Sir Jason, but you used the naughty word beginning with “w” and the computer said “no”. I have retrieved your comments now.

  58. Yeah Worky Toonsy mentioned earlier that if I use the W word I need to edit it so it looks like this W@NKER :)

    Hope all is well Fella.

  59. Yeah Ross..I have a feeling we are going to see the JB we thought we had bought…..not the injured violent beer gurgling monster we ended up with.

    Now is the time for Joey to knuckle down and train hard,get his fitness back,leave the past behind and get back to playing like we know he can.

  60. My top 3 all-time favourite Managers,1st:Marco Van basten. 2nd: Kevin Keegan, 3rd: Jose Jose Mourinho.

    The 2nd manager is definitely out. So left the two. :lol:

    Anyway, CH should still be given the shot.IMO,he will definitely be sacked,but i do hope the sacking is after the team have put a stronghold in BPL,and everything is stabilise in BPL.

  61. On the above,i know some of you will be thinking sounds so wrong. why would u sack a manager when things are stable. But well,now in the modern football era,is hard to see manager sticking so long as SAF or wenger.

    What i meant was even CH is sacked,i do hope that time we are still maybe in top 10 or so,not in relegation battle when he is sacked.

  62. I agree Adam! Great managers are not born that way, they develop!
    Give the man a chance and if he turns out to be dross then look at a suitable replacement!
    By reading some of the posts sometimes, seems like there’s a few people on here who think they can fill his boots! He He

  63. I wasn’t convinced that CH was the man for the job but he has roved me wrong. He has done his job and NUFC, bar a disaster, look to be headed back to the premiership.

    There is a team spirit that was sorely lacking under ‘more experienced’ managers like Souness and Allardyce and I gather that CH has implemented measures so that the players can talk freely and have an input into the club.

    The players obviously feel they have a stake in the club – a good example of that is when Loverkrands flew back from Denmark to play, even though his father had just died.

    Since Robson was sacked by the buffoon Shepherd, NUFC have lurched from manager to manager,from crisis to crisis. NUFC were in danger of imploding but CH has quietly and efficiently stabilised the club.

    Mike Ashley also seems to have calmed down and one of the benefits of this season is that Ashley will have got some insight into how a professional club should be run.

    So CH, after doing all the graft, deserves to lead NUFC into the premier league. I think he is well capable of doing a good job.

  64. Lets turn this on its head for a second, what if/when we’re promoted that CH wants to leave?? who would we go for as a new manager??

    Another point I’d like to make is, did we go through all of this debating back in 91 when KK was a new manager & took us all the way from LG2 to the Prem, I don’t remember anyone complaining about him not being a manager for long!!

    Also, doesn’t CH have to have his coaching badges to manager a team in the PL these days or does he get that on merit for getting a Fizzy pop team promoted??

    Personally I think we should stick with him & if we’re in the bottom 3 after a dozen games, get someone else in to help him, someone like Sven who can be a Director of Football but with his experience, help CH if he gets stuck :)

  65. As there is no long-term plan for NUFC it would seem that Hughton’s job is fairly secure until the club is sold. Who knows what will happen after that. There’s more probability in Hughton leaving NUFC for a better deal elsewhere than being shown the door by Ashley.

  66. Another point too, who in their right mind would get rid of Nolan (12 goals, top goal scorer) & Smith (worked like a work horse most of the season) but keep Barton (Injured, Banned, Jailed & a thung to boot) if/when we’re promoted?? You’re off your fraking head, the guy shouldn’t even be wearing the B&W top, never mind getting paid £65k a week to sit in the treatment room, only to come back in a few weeks time & most likely get sent off & banned for another 3 matches!!!

  67. I think it would be another disappointing chapter in our history if Hughton got us up and we replaced him, without giving him a decent chance in the Premiership. Regardless of everyone’s doubts in his abilities on the ‘big stage’.

    Don’t we always have doubt in people’s abilities? He’s proved some of us wrong at this level, so why not up there?

  68. I say give him 10 games see how it pans out…if we are plop and struggling then before to much damage is done we should start looking around and see who is available.
    Maybe get someone in to work with him for the next 10 games and see how we go…then hang him from Grey’s Monument :)

    I do expect us to be very ugly in the premiership and I think tempers will fray amongst fans who will be paying through the nose to watch defeats and workmanlike draws week in week out.

    But you never know he may buy some decent players and have them playing some decent stuff..all will be revealed.

  69. There’s more chance of him leaving for a better deal elsewhere. Remember Ashley appointed him as manger because he was cheap. Well Hughton’s stock has now risen and he ain’t gonna be that cheap anymore. We’re told he’s on a 2 yr contract with a basic salary of 5k/wk at present. He’ll either accept a new improved deal or politely decline. There’ll be a few clubs interested in his services after the job he’s done this season.

  70. I find this article crazy and insulting. Changing manager again ? No articles to write? Need to fill some pages? Grab some headlines? Grab some traffic?

    SOME Newcastle Fans never learn. Do you guys still think we are a club challenging Man Utd ?

    Please look at reality. We are at best a Blackburn or a Fulham at the moment. We may even be SToke or WBA.

    Therefore, Chris Houghton has every right to manage Newcastle.

    Darren
    Newcastle fan from Singapore

  71. Well erm! If we could have any of the following.
    Hiddink
    Morinho
    Wenger
    Moyes
    O`K, but somehow dont think we can attract them, soh !

    Actually was pleased to see the results of the poll and the fact people have sense enough to realise the decent job Chris. Hughton has done under difficult circumstances.

    To say we are so much better quality wise than other teams in the second tier is questionable and an easy target for anti Hughton fans.

    If for no other reason than he deserves the opportunity to have a crack at managing in the PL having brought us there, to fire him or replace him would be going back to that which got us relegated in the first place.

    We have at present a side which is to-gether, without the chaos of preceding seasons, lets see if we can have some continuity of purpose and end a history of constant managerial changes and the resulting chaos it causes.

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