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Swansea v Newcastle match highlight video and post match interviews.

Posted on February 14th, 2010 | 121 Comments |

David Cotterill goal.

Highlights of Newcastle United’s 1-1 draw with Swansea City at the Liberty Stadium and post match interviews with Andrew Carroll, David Cotterill and Paulo Sosa.

Andy Carroll goal.

Andy Carroll and David Cotterill post match interview.

Paulo Sosa post match interview.

Bowburnmag’s match review.

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121 Responses

  1. Good point, back top, players dug in, what a load of crap, Hughton is kidding himself and ignoring the fact that the core of the team cannot do the basics and are clearly not mobile enough.
    Instead of trotting out this rubbish and protecting the so called senior players, he needs to address it firstly by team selection and then by substitution, if he persists with this dogged loyalty it will drag the team down.
    Its his job to get the team performing and this is not happening, he needs to sort it out because last minute equalisers are papering over the cracks.

  2. toonsy,
    I think Forest have gone,they punched above their weight and their squad is not big enough to sustain a challange.

    Automatic promotion is in our hands but we need to address the midfield as a matter of urgency.

    A fit JB may just light the blue touch paper, providing CH plays him in CM.

  3. the bottom line – no matter how ugly we are playing – is that we are still top and have been there all season. I know it aint pretty but who else we going to get?? Our saviour shearer – who could not even get four points needed out of 9 games to keep us up??
    We need to stop moaning cos it aint helping morale and its counter productive. You have to look at what CH has to work with and give the man a pat on the back. All the best players left when we went down – and we were shit when they were still with us so imagine how bad we are now. He has bonded this ramshackle bunch of players into an ugly team that are generally are getting results. He took a job that only joe kinnear was interested in and has done very well. We all need a reality check – we aint a big team anymore, we are no bigger than stoke or hull etc in terms of quality. Our fan base etc is bigger for sure but that is the only area. the glory days are notihng more than a memory lads so lets not act like we are so mightly anymore cos we aint!

  4. Having just watched the highlights on the BEEB, plus the full game yesterday (PC). It would appear that we were good value for a point and could even have stole the game at the death. The highlights seemed to suggest we were the better team first half and that Swansea just about edged the second and the TV never lies, does it?

    One thing we have to keep in mind is that (nearly) every team goes through a purple patch at some stage of the season, the ones who eventually get automatic promotion are those who are the most consistent throughout the whole season. I think we are just about qualifying on that score. A single hard won or lucky (takes your pick)point might just be enough to clinch top, or second spot.

    Carroll for England??

  5. “Our saviour shearer – who could not even get four points needed out of 9 games to keep us up??”

    btw shearer got 5 points from 8 games

  6. Big Willy

    “Carroll for England??”

    He’s absolutly terrible! Why when someone scores they forget how terrible he has played? shite shite shite!!!!

    I’m still unsure of Nolan as well, fair enough he’s are top scorer but he doesn’t do anything else in a match. He never gets involved, doesn’t work hard, can’t beat a man, poor tackler and always passes backwards. What to do? Whens Barton back?

  7. craig chisholm @5 exellent post m8 , Ch can only work with the players he has got and the guy imo has done the best anyone could with this group . The guy seems to have tactical awarness and puts out a team to do a job according to who we are playing . He knows the limitations of his players and sets out a game plan to get the best out of them .Once Barton is fit he will have another weapon at his disposal and that could change his whole game plan . Barton will give the engine room more creativity and pace , with a fully fit Enrique back in the side and jonas , i am sure our form will improve and carry us over the finishing line and we will be champions .

  8. axel;

    you right mate, with barton back and enrique linking up with jonas we should start playing more fluid and at higher tempo. we simply must play two real wingers – jonas left and routledge on right. Barton in the middle with smith. I would then prob play carrol up front with Nolan in the hole even as all our other strikers are shit. back four has to be simpson, colo, enrigue and whoever.

  9. craig chisholm says:
    February 14, 2010 at 9:38 am

    “we are no bigger than stoke or hull etc in terms of quality.”

    You’re right enough there, Craig. In terms of estimated squad value, we are somewhere between Wolves and Hull at the moment, and Stoke’s squad is worth a bit more. The Smoggie’s squad is worth almost the same as ours too. A huge proportion of the value, in the shape of Steven Taylor, Enrique, Colo and Guti have been missing games recently too, and Barton just been missing, full stop.

    In terms of statistics, Chris Hughton has been doing his job. Factor in the uncertain and destabilising circumstances he’s had to work under for alot of that time, and he’s done a very good one so far.

  10. Let’s face it, Hughton’s tactical smarts are very shallow. From observing many of his substitutions ,or especially lack thereof, he does not appear to have the depth of ability necessary to a top shelf leader. Although we’re currently on top by an undeserved whisker he MUST not be our future.

  11. Good question Hitman. I guess one of the questions is, are the tactics he employs and the style he has the team playing, are they indicative of the style he prefers or are they just a means to an end. If this is what we have to look forward to if we reach the Premier league albeit with a few new faces but playing a similar style, I would say no it’s just a poor man’s Sam Allardyce and we all know what we thought of that. Can the real Chris Hughton unveil himself and then we would have a better chance to judge? At the moment, the football played gives me no confidence, laboured, uninspirng, poor quality and somehow we remain top albeit on a negative trajectory.

  12. hitman:

    i think he will get us up but i think that we will be a yo-yo team for as long as cashley owns us – in and the prem every season, not just cos of CH. Who you going to get in to replace him with?? no-one will come within a mile of ashley as the whole world knows what he stands for and what his aims are. couple this with zero cash input and we are left with kinnear, hughton etc. i say stick with CH for a while. FFS, the bloke has done very little wrong.

  13. A very good quote I read once from the American author, Eric Hoffer which I’ve always remembered:

    “They who lack talent expect things to happen without effort.”

    It’s very true, alas.

  14. hitman says:
    February 14, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    “worky your quote has just jumped threads m8”

    hitman, I posted it in the wrong thread because I was doing too many things at the same time, so I moved it here.

  15. Sunday Sun know about the same as you and I. After all, they are banned from SJP.

    There is nothing there that cant be deduced anyway, or that hasn’t been talked about on ‘blogs already.

  16. can chris hughton keep us in the prem,if we get promoted?doubtful imo.i dont think it will be a case of hughton,s talent,more ashley,s blueprint for success will be the stumbling block.
    look at the mackems the,ve spent a fortune just to try and stay in,and they could go down.
    if ashley thinks that bringing in kids on a couple of grand a week is the answer,then he is defo living in cloud cuckoo land.
    this has been the ashley mantra from day one,it started with the arsenal blueprint,followed by the aston villa plan,i think we are now in the wimbledon plan.
    imo all clubs look to sign young players,it,s not a new concept,yet ashley somehow thinks he,s got the jump on everyone else.the way he,s tried to pitch it to the fans through mort,llambias etc,it is way to utopian,and doomed to failure.
    begs the question for the future of new recruits to this club?how the hell are we going to do it,the supposed wage ceiling will have young players leaving this club like a revolving door when they see what other young players will be earning at other clubs.

  17. the problem with ashley is he wants to do things on the cheap,it might of worked for him in the clothing buisness but it wont work in football,if it did all the big clubs would be doing it.

  18. hitman – Ashley forgets that young players need time to develop. We wont get away with playing 17 year olds in thge premier league.

  19. thats the problem jabba seems to think these younguns are good to go as soon as you sign them.
    whatever happened to that brazilian kid his name said it all ciao as he hasn,t been seen since.

  20. the problem with ashley hes hoping we can uncover the next rooney and sell him on for major profit,does he not realise that all the top clubs in the world are looking aswel well like.

  21. if your a up and coming player where do you go newcastle utd,or man utd?in the current climate,i know what i,d do.

  22. spot on trojan,ashley lives in a land of make believe and fairy tales,fka man you have a choice of us or manu or madrid or milan,any adviser would stear the kid well clear of us.its a joke

  23. i like it when stories like this come oot,the pro ashley mob vanish,then again with this comment they will be oot in there droves defending the fat man.lol

  24. It’s not like any of our current young players are getting a fair crack anyway. If they aren’t getting games in the championship then sure as hell wont get them in the premier league!

  25. o/t a women is walking her yorkshire terrier by the tyne,when suddenly the dog escapes it,s lead and plunges headlong into the river.
    a passing blonde haired german man sees whats happened,and jumps in after the dog.he places the dog on the river bank,and proceeds to give the unfortunate animal cpr.after a couple of minutes the dog is revived,dried and handed back to the grateful owner.
    the woman thanks the man,she says thanks for saving my dog,are you a vet,the german man replies,vet i,m f**king soaking.

  26. My wife isn’t that bothered about Valentine’s Day today.

    The fat bitch is too excited about pancake day on Tuesday to even care.

  27. I stumbled on this blog by chance and boy am I glad. Plenty of common sense here as far as I’m concerned, not so much ridiculous hysteria, well done lads and lasses, there are some excellent points made.
    Number 1 priority this year is promotion, why compare things to the Keegan promotion days of flowing football etc etc…like many deluded fans it makes no sense. Let’s get promoted end of story, flowing football may come this season once Barton etc are all back and we are firing on all cylinders. Forget the Champions League days, just be grateful that we could experience them, great fun but history…we’re now light years away… Mike Ashley transfer system – so what, well at least he got rid of the wasters who got us relegated, cut the ridiculously high wage and perhaps saved us from extinction. Next season will be the big test of his intentions, if he sells us on great, if not he will of course splash the cash as required to keep us in the big league. Until then we need to focus on getting promotion, even if it’s ugly and keep the faith !!!

  28. Toonsy…thanks for the kind welcome mate….hitman…I agree with you, if we carry on like the way we are playing we’ll get fettled every week….. past history means nowt, we need to get re-established in the big league, hopefully next season. That could take a while though…sound financial footing helps a lot though…ask Pompey and Crystal Palace, who are currently on Jaaarman TV and battering Aston Villa by the way…nice to see that James Milner still cannae cross the ball !!!……

  29. munich,lets hope ashley proves all us wrong and invests a major wedge in player recruitment..doubt it like but we can all hope

  30. hitman;

    i am not so sure about making a massive amount of money available for players as lets be honest, far more of our big money deals have turned into a bag of sxxx than they have worked. The best names that stick out have often been the hidden jems, such as beye and bassong etc.
    Its not about how big the name is, its about man management – i know for a fact that one manager can struggle like hell with a team and another can come in and make them tick well. I quite like the idea of having no egos around the place now. its refreshing. there is even an argument that shearer was a step to far for us and just one too many big headed chiefs in the dressing room. All had not been well for a long time in our dressing room – all you have to do is look at given, the man is full of sxxx, he asked his agent in mid 2008 to find him another club – that was summer, when KK was there and things were looking rosey. They were all a bunch of wxxxxrs trying to engineer their own futures and stroke their own egos. bollxxxx

  31. Areet lads, been away all weekend but managed to catch the match yesterday and i have to say we were abysmal like. As far as i’m concerned we didnt really deserve the draw, Carroll’s goal came out of nowhere and we were outplayed for 80 or so minutes.
    Teams seem to have sussed our long ball tactics: Put it on the ground and pass it around. Granted Swansea pass the ball around excellently yet look toothless up front, however there will be alot of teams in this league that will pass the ball around better than us because judging by yesterday, neat passing football doesn’t seem to be a focal point of our training sessions. Both Guthrie and Nolan were horrendous. How many times did Nolan get caught in possession? How many times did Guthrie give the ball away?, all just putting needless pressure on ourselves. Was Danny Simpson unfit? probably the worst game i’ve seen him have for us, their wide men were strolling past him with ease and he was found out of position on numerous occasions. Fair enough Carroll scored the equaliser but he has the first touch of a rapist.

    We’re still top which I’m greatful for, like we’ve all said promotion is the main target this season, but is it really too much to ask to see the team play some canny and consistent football along the way? Obviously have no issue with lady luck looking down on us, but it gets a bit depressing when ypu’re top of the league and relying on lady luck to keep us there on numerous occasions.

  32. maybe hitman, but we are top still so there is an entire league of managers who are wishing they are in his shoes. lets see what happens next season. that will be the one where we can fathom CH out.

  33. true craig,im sorry like but CH will fall short in the prem,i have a lot of respect for the bloke but hes no manager.

  34. IF we make prem i think we should put CH in charge of the academy as the bloke has been great for us and a true gent. he deserves a good job with us IF we do replace him. Lets be honest though – who will come to our club with cashely running it? – no one af any pedigree. There is alot to be said about stability in a club. Give CH a crack and see how he goes.

  35. There must be something amiss – The players cannot control, pass or move.

    I thought you were taught that basic stuff at school…

    Dunno what they do on the training ground all week – Learn how to launch the long ball up to no one?

    Really poor performance but ultimately we extended our lead and we have two very winnable home games now.

    My enthusiasm is very tempered by the thought of going up though – I think we would be a laughing stock, as I don’t think there is the appetite of the current owner to invest the money needed.

    But we shall see.

  36. I think we should calm down and wait until we get our first teamers back!

    Taylor
    Jonas
    Enrique
    Ameobi
    Barton

    All to return soon.

  37. toonsy says:
    February 14, 2010 at 5:53 pm
    I think we should calm down and wait until we get our first teamers back!

    Taylor
    Jonas
    Enrique
    Ameobi
    Barton

    All to return soon.

    >>>>>>toonsy, Ameobi is utter cack m8. He must go at the end of season, we always seem to turn to him again and again and again………..

  38. Hitman,

    Tell me how?

    I have been honest with my assessments of the performances all season and I don’t think Ashley has the stomache to spend reasonable sums of money if we go up.

    If he doesn’t sell I see us going down with reletively low points.

    Consitant thoughts I think…

  39. craig chisholm says:
    February 14, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    “IF we make prem i think we should put CH in charge of the academy”

    Craig, why would he take several steps back to manage the academy when he could go and manage another club? He has already been mooted as a replacement for Trappatoni when he retires as manager of Ireland, and several other clubs would be very interested too.

  40. Clubs like Ireland :lol:

    Seriously though, other clubs would have him as chairmen looking at managers look at results rather than performances! I bet another championship team would come straight in for him.

  41. whyi, toonsy ireland are going to bring in CH over trapattoni get fkin real worky put aside your pro ashley views.PRAT

  42. workyticket says:
    February 14, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    ‘People are already talking about him as a replacement for Trappatoni when he retires as manager of Ireland, and several other clubs would be very interested too’.

    Who is actually saying things like that Worky? I certainly haven’t seen anyone say it – Although I haven’t got close links to anyone in the mental institute!

    It would be unfair not to give him a chance if he gets us promoted but my own thoughts are if we’re playing this poor style of football in this poor league with players who are worth more, paid more and are better than any other club has at their dissposal we really are going to get our arses tanned in the PL.

    Is he a one dimensional manager who is naturally defensive and conservative? Or is he playing the type of football that his players can only play?

    I suggest the former as Swansea, WBA, Forest and QPR to name but a few, pass and move much better and don’t have players who are as technical as good as ours.

    But managing NUFC to the top of the Championship with better players, a bigger squad and bigger resources certainly doesn’t make him even close to becoming an international manager.

  43. TROJAN 69 I agree mate, but what is “success” for us ?…I would say financial stability and getting re-established in the Premier League. I’d be happy to get promoted playing ugly if need be and achieve mid table in the Prem, beating the Bolton’s Hulls, Blackburns, Wigans etc, and maybe giving the Chelseas and Man U’s a bit of a game. But the way things are we need to start from scratch again…Look what Fulham, Birmingham etc can achieve with good managers who use the right tactics…they are teams filled with players who came good after proving themselves in the big league, why can’t we do that ? as Craig mentions the managers will be queing up to come…If we go up CH will get the chance to prove himself then once the wheels start coming off he’ll be moved on, nowts more sure….

  44. Toonsy i think the return of those players will make a massive diffrence . Enrique and jonas is the best left side in the division and i think Barton may be the spark we need in the middle .
    As for , will CH keep us in the premiership ? i think he will IF he gets his signings that he needs . Thier are a few players that need to be sold on . Top of my list would be Ameobi , R Taylor and retire Butt as a player but give him a coaching role in the academy . The young lads could learn a lot from him . I honestly think that with maybe 5 good signings to add to the squad we have then we are capable of a mid table finish in the prem . A couple of attaking creative cm’s are a must and a top class finisher ,altough i am a big fan of Lovenkrands in that position .

  45. I was going to compose a literary masterpiece saying what a great season we are having, but then I realised I was on the pessimistic reality version. I’ll just wait for the next timeshift.

  46. Amazing how a change of attitude can occur over a short period of time.
    Only recently there was a general dislike and vocal resentment directed at MA, with many now voicing the same parsimonious attitude to-wards spending.
    C`mon folks the guy is worth more than that of many of the the present PL owners and his business is doing just fine.
    Next seasons PL teams are expected to receive fifty million in tv revenue apiece, that plus advertising, shirt sales, bums in seats,all of which allows for a decent amount to be spent on bringing in some talent to a basically second tier level side.
    It`s been said their will be a salary cap for all (or most)new signings of fifteen thousand a week, coupled with an age limit of twenty six.
    Dumb statement !
    Dumb policy !
    It`s a no brainer we have been successful only because of our PL class players which includes their healthy salaries.
    To expect to be able to compete with the class of player willing to accept fifteen thousand per week is a pipe dream, git what you pay for, just look at our recent signings.
    Even the most successful club to use this method of buying cheap and young, “Arsenal”, spend heavily at times.
    Yes I can see it`s a tempting theory but as a practical matter it will land a club right back to the second tier.
    As for an age limit, had we employed that we would never have signed some of our most successful players, most players best years are between twenty seven and thirty.
    Sorry it`s a compounding of the numerous mistakes made by our owner, beginning with hiring Chris. Mort a beancounter who knew absolutely nothing about the business and has continued with a hardheaded attitude listening to no one and continued to keep people like Llambias who can tell you the odds on eight the hard way, but has`nt a clue when it comes to football.
    Nah ! it` dont look good for this clubs future, unless Ashley hires someone who knows the game and can advise him.
    All the top clubs have a money guy who knows the game, that`s why they are top clubs.

  47. Munich Mag says:
    February 14, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    “Look what Fulham, Birmingham etc can achieve with good managers who use the right tactics”

    Last season, Birmingham under Alex McLeish edged an automatic promotion place in second. They won 83 points with nine losses, and no less than 14 dogged, uninspiring draws. If he’d have been the Newcastle manager, I have little doubt that quite a few of the fans would have been calling for his sacking.

  48. This is the best midfield we can put out I cant wait for Barton to come back who should replace Nolan and Guthrie.

    Routledge___________Smith_________Barton________Gutierrez

    When we get back to the prem we need to buy a small speedy striker similar to Martins imo.

  49. chuck you no nowt m8 stick to baseball,look lads where are we going under ashley,whats his plan whats his ambitions for our future,with ashley and CH theres only one way we are going YO-YO,WHY ashley wont spend the money to keep us in the prem,plus CH hasnt got what it takes to keep us there,ashley seen CH as the cheap option.

  50. worky @ 71

    My mate is a blues fan and I remember him saying to me that they are were boring team but it didn’t matter if they went up.

    He got his wish, and now they are fine in the EPL, with a squad not far removed from the promotion winning side.

  51. Toon Factor – “similar to Martins”

    Can we get one who knows something else other than hammering the ball as hard as he can?

  52. worky,if we go up do you think ashley will make the investment thats needed to keep us up,our current squad could not keep us in the prem,its a simple answer

  53. toonsy says:
    February 14, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    “My mate is a blues fan and I remember him saying to me that they are were boring team but it didn’t matter if they went up.

    He got his wish, and now they are fine in the EPL, with a squad not far removed from the promotion winning side.”

    Toonsy, alot of Newcatle fans don’t really understand the Championship, as they haven’t really paid much attention to it before.

  54. Toonsy, alot of Newcatle fans don’t really understand the Championship, as they haven’t really paid much attention to it before

    we all know to well worky were not as thick as you think

  55. Sunday 2nd May 2010 is when the EPL bus leaves.

    There are only 2 seats available, will we be one of them?

  56. Toon_Factor says:
    February 14, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    “Is there a player who is tall, fast, powerful and a good finisher?”

    Edin Dzeko?

    Would cost about £30 million though and he hasn’t played in the Premier League before so he isn’t guaranteed to be a success.

  57. worky and stardust would like us all to think that ashley is the best thing that ever happend to newcastle united,but thats there opinion and everyone one has one of them just like arse holes.

  58. TGS – I reckon we’ll be on it. Have you seen Forests next 4 games? all toughies! West Brom are away at Cardiff on Tuesday aswell!

  59. hitman says:
    February 14, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    “we all know to well worky were not as thick as you think”

    So you’ll know that it is a messy business, and that even the top teams have to grind out many excrucating draws, and sustain quite a few losses, injuries and variations in form due to the more intense schedule of two games most weeks, and 46 in a season without cup competitions and all the rest. Newcastle’s form this season so far under Chris Hughton is no worse than other teams who have gone on to be promoted and survive. Indeed, it is better than most, with Tony Pulis’s Stoke being one example. Although it is not known for certain whether they will survive yet, the Birmingham example is another one which has been oft quoted recently due to their form in the Premiership, where they too were expected to be crucified by fans like yourself.

  60. I guess nobody knows what Ashley will do. Nobody thought we would add to the squad in January yet we have. Time will tell…

  61. hitman says:
    February 14, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    “worky and stardust would like us all to think that ashley is the best thing that ever happend to newcastle united”

    Hitman, I have already told you my views on Mike Ashley, so why are you trying to misrepresent them?

  62. what are your views on ashley worky,i can remember being the first on eds blog to have me doubts aboot ashley and got shot reet doon,everyone thought he was our savior,but the hitman seen through it,i can remember when you first hit eds blog you jumped reet up rustys arse…still stand by that,this man has done more damage to newcastle united than ever FFS or SJH could do m8.

  63. worky hes ashleys puppet,who in there reet mind would work for ashley,redknap run a mile and hes one dodge man.lol

  64. toonsy,
    I agree, Forest do not have the squad.
    Tbh I would like WBA to win at Cardiff as we need as many points as possible between the chasing pack.

    That’s why yesterday’s result was not bad (performance was crap),if we had lost,Swansea would only be 8 points behind and smelling blood.

    I don’t give a toss about winning the CCC.

  65. I roll my eyes when I read some of the blogs on here, it’s mid February and some folks have us promoted and relegated already…. I think there will be changes in the Premiership probably as soon as Portsmouth have been wound up, it is ridiculous that clubs can be successful and at the same time run at huge losses, in the real world this is unsustainable and huge established firms can go into oblivion overnight. The year Porstmouth won the FA cup they lost £17 million, tempting players by offering them ridiculous salaries they could not afford to pay. At the time did the fans mind? no of course not because they were winning and just won the cup, now all the Newcastle fans want Ash to spend “big” “when” we get promoted. I think when players are negotiating contracts now they will all be taking pay cuts, and the ones on mega buck 5 year deals will be getting shipped out on loan deals or free transfers if they are not producing the goods on the pitch. If anybody in the FA or Premiership had any nuts they’d introduce wage caps and hopefully that would level playing fields and cut the ridiculous debt that is riddling the top flight.

  66. hitman says:
    February 14, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    “worky hes ashleys puppet”

    hitman, what do you mean exactly?

    I have already explained my views on Ashley to you in some detail in the past. They have been very mixed, depending on the particular issue.

  67. Worky,

    Any chance of letting us know where and by whome it has been mooted that Hughton could become the next ROI boss?

  68. Stuart I dont think CH would make a good ROI manager anyway he would be far to soft, they would take the piss out of him aswell as being on the piss the whole time.

  69. hitman,

    I did hear somewhere that the training ground had turned back into a holiday camp recently.

    Think there’s a happy medium but turning up for training when you want and players deciding what punishment each other should get is a bit far.

  70. it’s practically nailed-on guaranteed that if nufc win promotion ashley will keep hughton on as manager.

    it would be an unusual situation where a club would decide their manager isn’t good enough immediately after winning promotion.

    the only situation that could happen would be under new ownership.

  71. Hitman,

    I appreciate that some people on this blog tend to have somewhat one-sided views.

    However here is what I think is an objective perspective of the transfer window just shut. Ashley spent 3m on transfers in the Jan transfer window which was 10% of the 30m total spent by all of the clubs in the football league. While previous windows have obviously been a disaster, I don’t feel like we can really complain about him not spending money in the recent window. The reality in football is that the ridiculous money that was being spent is no longer available for anyone other than Man City and Chelsea. The likes of Man U, Liverpool, Portsmouth, Cardiff and Crystal Palace are all teetering on the brink of financial ruin. We have got to be pleased that we were able to spend more than any other Championship club and most Premiership clubs. In addition we have bought arguably the best players available to us as a Championship club who should be able to take us up. Importantly if they can’t cut it in the Premiership, we won’t be stuck with them on our books as they can be easily sold back to a Championship club without us losing money as they are on Championship club. Makes a lot of sense to me.

    Obviously if we get promoted, we will have to strengthen our squad. I will reserve judgment until I see what happens in the summer.

  72. Big Dave says:
    February 14, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    “Stuart I dont think CH would make a good ROI manager anyway he would be far to soft”

    Yeah Dave, like he was too soft to sort out the problems in the Newcastle dressing room. Just because some people are intelligent and don’t resort to shouting to solve all their problems, it doesn’t mean that they are “soft”. Actually, it’s quite the opposite.

  73. workyticket says:
    February 14, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    It’s well known that the problems in the dressing room we’re sorted by the newly formed ‘players commitee’. Hughton had very little input as he just let them get on with it.

    He’s dignified I agree, but I would like to see him for a while longer to see if he is all the things you think he is.

  74. hitman says:
    February 14, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    “CH is nothing”

    hitman, your hatred for Chris Hughton seems to go beyond football. What is the real reason for your contempt?

  75. Worky ROI’s dressing room has allways be known for being 1 that likes to party, in my experience that job would need someone very strong to control it. As I have said before I have served under allsorts of leaders and if you know you can get away with it you will then you tend to start to take the piss out of it. I have said from day one CH didnt have the “Steel” to control our team, hense the senior players helping run the team. But then he feels as if he cant let the seniors down simply because he is that type of decent bloke. In many ways I feel for him as he was more pushed into the job, which tbh if he wanted to be a manager he would have been before now. I honestly think he would have prefered to stay as assitant or coach, and I wish he did because there will be no going back to that Job which I think he was brilliant at, once he is finished with the Managers Job. No Im not calling for his head I just think we should think about it after we get promoted

  76. Stuart79 says:
    February 14, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    “It’s well known that the problems in the dressing room we’re sorted by the newly formed ‘players commitee’.”

    You think that it was a bad idea for Hughton to set up the player’s committee, Stuart? I thought it was an rather good one, which showed excellent leadership skills. Good channels of communication are essential in any organisation and Hughton is astute enough to know that.

  77. Hitman
    Obviously you misinterpreted what i said above, it was`nt a pro Ashley post, on the contrary i attempted to explain why his policies will not work.
    And the fact he really needs someone with a track record to not only replace Llambias,but advise him on how a club aught to be run.

    And Big Dave
    Is it a fact that Ireland`s dressing room has always been one that “likes to party” (Any more than England Wales or Scotland)and in your experience would need someone strong to control it, exactly what is your experience in regard to the Ireland dressing room because thats what we are talking about , No?
    You also seem to know a lot about what happens in the
    Newcastle dressing room, guess you do get about, or are you basing your statement on tabloid rumor ?

  78. Chuckie my experience is nowt to do with the ROI dressing room, But in dealing with people who like to drink. But I do know that they enjoy there parties in Dublin and sometimes in Belfast and that is a fact.

  79. Big Dave says:
    February 15, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    “Chuckie my experience is nowt to do with the ROI dressing room, But in dealing with people who like to drink. But I do know that they enjoy there parties in Dublin and sometimes in Belfast and that is a fact.”

    I still don’t understand why you don’t think that Chris Hughton has the “steel” to control a dressing room though, when the evidence points to the contrary. It’s more often loudmouthed egotists like Shearer and Souness who escalate conflicts and lose control in dressing rooms in the long run.

  80. Worky > when the evidence points to the contrary
    What evidence ?
    I think the player committee is a good thing But my main concerns are that with CH the seniors have to much power. It was proved when he played Barton in 5 – 6 games while carrying an injury even Joey said himself basically that it wasnt fair on the the others.
    Oh and I really cant see how you can compare Big Al with Souness, to me they are 2 completly different ego’s.

  81. Big Dave says:
    February 15, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    “Worky > when the evidence points to the contrary
    What evidence ?
    I think the player committee is a good thing But my main concerns are that with CH the seniors have to much power.”

    Establishing clear channels of communication is a very good thing in leadership, Dave, as is giving team members a degree of self responsibity. It enables a leader too manage complexity with greater ease and concentrate on other things. That’s a good thing, not a bad thing.

    Shearer tried to be like Souness, and like Souness, he failed miserably. He had players hating him eventually (and his sidekick even more), with one telling him that he was a “sh*t manager with sh*t tactics”. What kind of leadership is that? The players are much happier now and despite what some idiots say, they are far more motivated too.

  82. Worky > Establishing clear channels of communication is a very good thing in leadership, Dave, as is giving team members a degree of self responsibity. It enables a leader too manage complexity with greater ease and concentrate on other things. That’s a good thing, not a bad thing.

    I said it was a good thing but becomes a bad thing when the seniors become to powerful and almost undroppable.

    > Shearer tried to be like Souness, and like Souness, he failed miserably. He had players hating him eventually

    ??? who’s the players that hated him ?? the player your talking about is Joey Barton the man with the hottest temper in our team, who was just hauled off and ignored by Big Al so im pretty sure he was well pissed off.lol
    and im sure the players would be much happier now anything for a quiet life and a lot less work.

    Worky do you not think it was bad managment to play Barton for his last 6 games when he was carrying an injury when at the time we normally allways had Guthrie, Taylor, Vuckic, Lua Lua all available and eager to play. and do you honestly see CH turning us into a top ten prem team with an odd chance of a euro spot.

  83. Big Dave says:
    February 15, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    “Worky do you not think it was bad managment to play Barton”

    Dave, to be honest I’m not really very interested any more. I don’t think that anything will change the natural antipathy and bias against Hughton with some people.

  84. Worky I was just asking an honest question, do you not think it was bad managment to play Barton for his last 6 games when he was carrying an injury ?

  85. Big Dave says:
    February 16, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    “Worky I was just asking an honest question, do you not think it was bad managment to play Barton for his last 6 games when he was carrying an injury ?”

    Dave, He had a kind of metatarsal injury which shouldn’t have affected his play that much, and as we can see ATM, a player with Barton’s qualities would be an important addition to our rather stodgy midfield. Every time, both yourself and other people seem to be putting the worst possible interpretation on Hughton’s actions, interpretations that you almost certainly wouldn’t make if the manager was Shearer or Keegan. That’s wrong and you can never make good impartial decisions like that in the real world. When decisions are made on that basis, they are usually the first stop on the road to ruin.

  86. Worky Barton said himself that he felt bad stopping someone getting a game and yeah I think we could do with Barton atm but who is going to make way for him now ?.

    Worky > you almost certainly wouldn’t make if the manager was Shearer or Keegan.
    I will admit when it comes to KK I might be a bit biased :) But not with Big Al.
    My main problem with CH is that he allways seems to stick with the Senior players wiether they are not fully fit or just struggling, which means one of my “FAV’s” ;) Guthrie never gets a good run in the center where I think he can make his own and can be a real cracking wee player and I think will be good in the EPL.
    Oh it was good to see him making that position his own tonite :lol: .