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Would Weiss would be a wise move for Newcastle?

Posted on June 16th, 2010 | 142 Comments |

Is Vlad the lad soon to be in Toon?
Is Vlad the lad soon to be in Toon?
I think it’s reasonably widely expected that Newcastle will look to at least have a dabble in the loan market this summer, although only time will reveal whether or not we will merely be dipping our toe into it or if we will be submerging ourselves fully into it.

Kind of as a result of that, over the last few weeks we have been linked with some of the brightest talent around in English football, not to be signed on permanent deals by us, but to make a temporary switch to Tyneside to help us beef up our squad with the numbers required for a tough and demanding Premier League season. The latest in the line of young-guns linked with a move to us is Vladimir Weiss of Manchester City, the Slovakian who is currently away on World Cup duty, and in fact played yesterday against New Zealand. But would a move like this be beneficial to us?

In short, yes. Personally I don’t really care if a player costs £10 million, or whether we pick him up on a free, or whether we loan him from another club in all honesty. All that matters is that any player brought in could a job for us when it is needed to be done.

But the problem with loaning players in that are held in high regard at their parent clubs is that they will more than likely be required to feature in a number of games. Anyone remember that time we loaned Giuseppi Rossi? Then does anyone remember how unhappy Manchester United boss Alex Ferguson was as we just weren’t giving him enough games? Well in his opinion anyway, and what would he know eh?

Weiss spent the back end of last season on loan at Bolton Wanderers, although Manchester City appear unhappy that he was only given a handful of substitute appearances in his time at The Reebok, which should drop a massive hint towards the role he would be expected to play for us if he did end up at St James’ Park – a major one.

So given that Weiss will be required to play a more important role in terms of minutes on the pitch, surely that would mean that one of our current wingers would have to make way. But is Weiss better than Jonas Gutierrez or Wayne Routledge? Can we justify dropping either of those two players for a young lad who has hardly featured in the Premier League?

I don’t know enough about Weiss to comment on that accurately, but the same situation would apply with any of the loan possibilities that have been linked with us previously such as Jack Wilshere or Tom Cleverley. The fact that all of these players will need games makes trying to keep the current squad happy whilst trying to bulk up that same squad with highly rated young players that little bit more difficult. I guess it’s all about the balance between the two, and I hope Chris Hughton can get that right.

Still, there is no concrete development yet so I guess we’ll just have to wait this one out… again.

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142 Responses

  1. If they really want games they should be asking to go out on loan to a CC club where they will start every match. I think he looks decent but he’d need to compete with the current wingers and earn his spot and this minimum appearance thing is a joke. What if he is playing and or training like crap? That being said I wish we had Rossi now. He is exactly the sort of player we need.

  2. Charlie – I wouldn’t say it would be a concrete clause.

    More like Man City saying “we expect him to play more or we’ll take him back” kind of thing, so nothing official, but making it known that if we wanted to keep hime then he needs to play.

  3. Morning, only one more day till the fixtures come out. What do you reckon away games first and latch match plus boxing day and new year??

  4. A home game against a mid table team and 3 points on the board straight away,ditto for boxing and new years day……..last match I’d love to send Villa down at Villa park……….whey you can dream cant you Deb?

  5. He’d still get more games as first team cover for us than he would for man city. Man ure away first match.

  6. be good to get sunderland at home first game. enjoy the 8 weeks build up, get off to a good start, nice easy 3 points…
    couldn’t possibly go wrong, could it?

  7. Aye, jay jay is right. He’d get plenty more minutes at the Toon than he would at schitty!

    Plus he can play through the middle, has a turn of pace and isn’t afraid to take players on.

    Could be extremely useful cover for Nolan/Guthrie/Barton (even typing that tw@ts name makes me squirm).

    City are all about the B & C-list Galacticos now. Weiss aint gonna find a way into their starting XI any time soon.

  8. Liverpoop home or away would be a great start I reckon. See if we can kick the cnuts while they’re down! :)

    Then an easy one like Blackpool, Sunderland or Man U at home after that.

    Home game last day of the season please. Blackpool would be nice, but anyone else would do so long as it’s at St. James’.

  9. Anyone heard the vagner love rumour goin around that he is in Newcastle n in talks now that wud b a signing, jus a rumour as is every player we r linked wit til they sign but he is 26 right age n he is out of favour at cska moscow n they r prepared to let him go on the cheap, as for weiss decent cover for routledge

  10. davy – aye it would be good, if true. Can’t see it myself though. I expect Chris to sign a couple more from the left field that will hopefully perform as well as Routledge and Williamson.

  11. book your digs…it’s blackpool away.

    …batty thats good news for you as you’ll be there for your fortnight’s holiday anyhoo..

    yipeeeee

  12. LOL all – keep fingers crossed that we have a nice easy settling back in period, but as it’s Newcastle probably Chelsea away to kick it all off…

  13. liverpool away for me would be ideal.
    i dont think we will loan anyone out of the prem. CH talked about this a depth a few weeks back. He said it was hard to get anyone out of prem as their clubs want gurentees of minimum first team action. CH hinted strongly at loans from outside prem instead.. wish i could find article. it was with ref to witshire and cleverly.
    I am more worried that these samaras links wont go away and normally CH comes out straight away to deny things.

  14. I dunno how easy Blackpool away would be first game – they’ll be bang up (although so will we you would hope). I’d prefer to get them a few weeks down the light when they’ve already had a good few kickings from the big boys.

  15. It wont be blackpool away, Sky sports last night were saying they have already agreed an away start with the league, So they have time to build the temporary stand.

  16. There are a few good young players at city, chelsea & man u who are just never going to find a regular first team place. If we can get the likes of weis & cleverly on loan it would be good business & might give us a chance to buy them.

  17. komfort drop me some more of them vuvuzelas off the yanks love blowing there own trumpet there all gone

  18. Dunno why we keep banging on about good young loan players when we have quite a few already on the books. I would rather we have 2 or 3 quality more established players. Either as frees or or splash out 10m on a trophy player to let the rest of the league see we are there to win something not just make up the numbers of also rans.
    When we first signed Owen I thought that was a positive statement and it might have worked if he hadn’t spent most of his time laid up in dry dock.

    Our prority imo is a right sided defender although if the two Taylors can take it on we could be sorted there.

  19. TOON CHICKEN what di ya reckon aboot gazza being in hospital cos i know u dont like him from ur comments on eds blog a while back :lol:

  20. mclovin see u got ya mrs oot early too get a good corner dus she still open them newcastle broon ale bottles with her p iss flaps

  21. Haha – see it took the dumb sh!t half an hour to work out everyone was on the next page!!!

  22. Lesh, Colin Young at the Mail is a sunlin supporter, and he is unable/unwilling to write a balanced or unbiased article on north east football.

  23. “A match with a very South African flavour, spiced up with a little bit of Chile…”

    Where on earth do you find these commentators? This guy especially irritates me, but I have no idea who he is.

    Anyway… I’m going to watch the South Africa vs Uruguay game today in Pretoria. Gona be awesome!!!

  24. 1st game will be wba away & the xmas games will be as far away as they can get us to travel.

  25. Well I dunno who’s watching the game but I tell you what. Chile has got some little gems as far as I can see.

    The right wing Alex Sanches looks skillful, smart great player.

    As does Jorge Aldivia, who plays for Al Ain in Arabs States.

    And then the better knowm Matias Fernandez.

    All look like brilliant players. And all young.

  26. This is what I wish Ashley would see.

    He may have to pay in the region of 8million for a player like Alex Sanches, but my word – he is 21, and he will be worth about 30million in 3-4 years time.
    Its an appreciating asset, an investment. But he wants to buy freebies and loan signings that just drain wages and we get no return on… I don’t get his logic.

  27. bigbadbob says:
    June 16, 2010 at 11:55 am
    Lesh, Colin Young at the Mail is a sunlin supporter, and he is unable/unwilling to write a balanced or unbiased article on north east football.

    Bob, you got me banged to rights – I didn’t realise he had an impedament!

  28. jj,
    “But he wants to buy freebies and loan signings that just drain wages and we get no return on… I don’t get his logic”.

    Is that a fact then, or are you repeating what snoozepapers say?
    Maybe you got a hot-line to MA?

    What else has he got planned mate?
    Howay, spill the beans.

  29. He’s chronic isn’t he?
    Total mong!

    Tell ya’ what though, i’m sick of seeing players lose possession then fall down & win a free kick.
    The ref falls for it every single time.

  30. aye its shocking some of the refereeing…………..owt to do with a little wager you might have on then Toonsy?

  31. jj,
    minus the last one though hey?
    & the first one.
    Not that precedencial (if that’s a word) then?

    richie,
    robbie earle won’t be missed will he, he’s a copy cat.

  32. I cant believe every tv pundit’s entitled to free tickets………and they reckon he gave away 150!!,bearing in mind every tv station out there probably has a minimum of 10 commentators/pundits….shocking!!

  33. richie,
    aye man, hand in glove.
    The powers that be are so corrupt, that ‘s why they never make any decisions man.
    If he’d given the tickets to some bairns out front of the stadium i’d say fair enough, but i’m guessing it wasn’t like that.

  34. sure it said 150 on sky this morning but just read at least 40………..like you say if he’d given them to locals who couldn’t afford tickets then fair enough but he gave them to a Dutch beer company who did some pr thing…..obviously he’ll have recieved a fair bit of dosh for them,he’s probably just one of many tho.

  35. Poor old Batty,
    Well suppose he wont have to spend the bus fare to Blackpool, hey nowt wrong with a few day trips to Whitley Bay or Tynemouth.
    Though there`s no more Spanish city i believe, don`t forget the sarnies and tizer mate.

  36. Look everyone – it’s our friendly resident weatherman.

    What temperature is it today, chuckie?

  37. Jesus Chuck, Spanish City hasn’t been there for a good few years now, in fact about 10 (ish) if my memory serevs me right? :D

  38. wtf is the commentator on aboot…..the Nobel peace prize for Sep Blatter for taking the World Cup to Afrika…..bring back Robbie Earle :-)

  39. TC very canny WC calender, but got my guide from poundshop ;) lol. ok its fron the sun, but better than the freebies u get from w end papers.
    well this time tommorrow we will be discussing the fixture list, 1st game i got to go home fix, same for boxing day :)

  40. Spain VS “the gnomes of Zurich” see how good the Spanish really are ?

    Looking good & 1/2 time, best football from any side so far, with the possible exception of Germany.

    Would still like to see an African side win this time around, would make future tournaments more interesting and be a positive for the continent.

  41. Another poor game for me so far like……….you can have 90% of the possesion but if you barely create a decent chance then for me you’re not playing great.

  42. Another game that is becoming synonymous with this World Cup. The “must not lose” attitude on display is woeful to watch from most teams.

  43. Ya reet Toonsy,for me if I had to lose one it would be the first one…………..oops wor lass not happy

  44. CLiNT – Dunno about the temp, but I know it’s hot and their isn’t a cloud in the sky overhead.

    God I hate it :(

  45. whey like I said possesion and pretty football means nowt if you dont create…..should wake Spain up now hopefully…game on

  46. chuck says:
    June 16, 2010 at 3:00 pm
    Poor old Batty,
    Well suppose he wont have to spend the bus fare to Blackpool, hey nowt wrong with a few day trips to Whitley Bay or Tynemouth.
    Though there`s no more Spanish city i believe, don`t forget the sarnies and tizer mate.
    <<<< lol your no yank u know too much aboot the north east bet ya could even tell me where the 308 bus goes too and from chucky

  47. Feck me, aren’t we all sad, knowing where a bus goes. I couldn’t tell you where it stops though :lol:

  48. theres been alot of miss spent youths on here skiveing doon whitley when ya should of been at school

  49. chuck says:
    June 16, 2010 at 4:20 pm
    Batty
    Craw Crook !
    <<<< chuck ur a fukin geordie wind up from north east

  50. chuck says:
    June 16, 2010 at 4:20 pm
    Batty
    Craw Crook !
    <<< well why do ya try too make oot ya a yank lol

  51. That would have been a cracking goal by Switzerland, great play. Turning into a good game, one of the best yet. Bit if end to end action, about bloody time.

  52. Batty

    Ah kna ye Kna but ah divin kna.
    Hey, i`m at games at St. James every year and have a general knowledge of both the area and a working knowledge of the local vernacular.
    And of course spent some time in the area,which was over 50 years ago i might add.

  53. We yanks kna everything man!
    Looks like gaoltender practice against the Swiss goalie, but I sense a bit of desperation in the Spanish side, running true to form, always fall at the final fence.

  54. chuck says:
    June 16, 2010 at 4:48 pm
    We yanks kna everything man!

    chuck f uk off man ur a geordie lol good wind up like

  55. Damn ! hard to believe, Sam Ball vs. entertaining football, who`d a thunk it ?

    Howard Webb was his usual self, crap, some awful decisions.

  56. not wife,cos I’m not fallen for that one again batty…….but me girlfriends from Madrid originally.

  57. The way things are going looks like the pundit`s are taking a beating and so are their predictions.

    Not unlikely some seeded teams may drop out, not afraid for the US as i expect we will top the division.

    Now it appears they gave Engerland the easiest possible group, but one loss could see them outta here, be afraid, be very afraid, i know you fear facing Germany.

  58. chuck says:
    June 16, 2010 at 5:09 pm
    The way things are going looks like the pundit`s are taking a beating and so are their predictions.

    Not unlikely some seeded teams may drop out, not afraid for the US as i expect we will top the division.

    Now it appears they gave Engerland the easiest possible group, but one loss could see them outta here, be afraid, be very afraid, i know you fear facing Germany.
    <<<< chuck from what ive seen bring them on the lot of them sorry to se slovinia beatin the yanks we top the group with 7 points should have been 9 apart from the fluke like

  59. lol.shes used to it batty,theres 2 england on the house and 2 on the car…………she’s alreet tho went from watching Real Madrid to being a Toon season ticket holder.

  60. So if Slovenia win against the USA, and we win our last 2 games, that will put England at the top of the group, Slovenia 2nd, and the USA ganning home?

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