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Posted on December 22nd, 2010 | 183 Comments |

Carroll and Barton set to stay.
Carroll and Barton set to stay.
The good news today, even though I personally expected it, is that the rumours linking Joey Barton with a move away form Newcastle appear to be false.

Alan Pardew has today reiterated that no players are for sale in January, and that includes the likes of Joey Barton and Andy Carroll – both of whom have been targets for speculation in the last few days.

This will no doubt come as a blow to the press who will now have to suffer the fate of stirring up some new rumours, but the mantra of the club should, and will, remain as it was under Hughton the Great. The lines back then were to not believe everything you read in the papers, which is common sense to some, but that mantra looks set to be continuing under Pardew.

Joey Barton is happy at Newcastle, or at least he claims to be, and that is part of the reason why Pardew is confident that he will be losing no players in January.

“Of course, you can never say 100% that a player definitely, definitely isn’t going anywhere,” Pardew told The Chronicle. “Sometimes it is 50% down to the player, whether they want to stay.”

“And part of the reason that I’m confident is that I’ve had conversations with all of the players now and not one wants to leave.”

I’m not really surprised by that as I believe that we will see a fairly quiet January. We may get one or two in and one or two may leave, but they won’t be our key players, that is for sure. In fact I predict a quiet January transfer window throughout the league to be honest as the 25-man squad rules mean that players will likely have to be moved on first if they are to be replacedThen again, we all know how good my predictions are!

Anyway, I digress. Getting back to the rumours, Pardew has had his say on them all.

“I want Joey to stay, it’s as simple as that as far as I’m concerned,” he said.

“There’s obviously going to be clubs interested in him because he’s done so well. But from the DVDs I’ve watched of Newcastle games, you can see how important he is to us. I want him to stay.”

“And that goes for all the other players, like Andy, who have been linked with other clubs as well. They are not going. We want them to stay here, and that is something that we’re working towards with players who are vulnerable with their contract situations.”

The interesting part of that little statement to me is the part about contracts. Players who are in vulnerable contract positions, in my view, would be players like Barton and Jose Enrique and other key, first-team players that are perhaps in the last 18 months or so of their respective contracts. Could this mean that new contracts could be in the offing for them?

Time will tell on that, but I don’t expect any contracts for our ‘high earners’ to be renewed until our Premier League status is assured for next season.

So there we go. Basically there will be no players leaving Newcastle, unless they want to. That is how I read it anyway, but feel free to put your own spin on it.

Meanwhile, I’m off to play (work) in the snow!

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183 Responses

  1. ice,
    he’s got way more to gain by us building a good team over the next couple of years & it getting back into europe.
    Plus prem tv money.
    Speculate to accumulate.
    ;)

  2. Yawn, yawn yawn. Ashley hasn’t cashed in on any player in the past so why start now? It’s getting tiresome.

  3. CLINT too bloody true m8,but who can second guess this guy.
    love makes the world go round,what a load of crap!

  4. ice,
    :)

    Aye mate,
    but that’s half the deal, everyone trying to second guess him.
    It’s a pointless exercise & a fast track to cardiac arrest.
    :)

  5. Micky Toon says:
    December 22, 2010 at 4:59 pm
    Yawn, yawn yawn. Ashley hasn’t cashed in on any player in the past so why start now? It’s getting tiresome.

    Dyer, Parker, Faye, Nzogbia, Given and Emre. Just off the top of my head.

  6. CC says:
    December 22, 2010 at 4:30 pm
    If Ashley fancys getting his money back any time soon he wont.

    We’ve thought that before, but everytime he makes us look stupid for thinking that.

  7. Why can’t Partridge just keep his trap shut? There’s absolutely no need to keep repeating that Barton and Carroll are not for sale over and over again as all it does is fuel the speculation more.

  8. Stuart

    Ridding the club of Dyer was possibly the best business the club has ever done.

    Given, Faye and NZogbia wanted out, Parkers sale was Fat Sams idea and he was replaced by a superior player anyway.

  9. eastcoastmag says:
    December 22, 2010 at 4:51 pm
    wouldnt be surprised to see some of the likes of xisco or best being moved <<<< hope not i would be gutted :lol:

  10. CC says:
    December 22, 2010 at 5:12 pm
    Stuart

    Ridding the club of Dyer was possibly the best business the club has ever done.

    Given, Faye and NZogbia wanted out, Parkers sale was Fat Sams idea and he was replaced by a superior player anyway.

    Think you’ll find that all them players left the club so the respective managers could buy someone else. In other words he didn’t want to spend any money.

  11. workyticket says:
    December 22, 2010 at 5:09 pm
    Why can’t Partridge just keep his trap shut? There’s absolutely no need to keep repeating that Barton and Carroll are not for sale over and over again as all it does is fuel the speculation more.

    He’s answering a question, Worky! What is he to do? Just say “fck off!”

    You still haven’t replied to my comments last night either.

  12. I wonder whose decision it is to buy and sell players at NUFC anyway.

    The way it should work (IMHO) is that the manager is given a budget to work within and he has the final say about who to buy and sell within that.

    I’m suspecting – although I don’t know for sure of course – that at our club Ashley and Lamb Chop have much more influence.

  13. Stuart

    Ashley bought the club for £134m then spent £100m+ reducing the debt, God knows how much in the transfer market, Obscene wages and running costs.

    I dont think you can accuse him of not spending money, Im not a fan of his but there is no proof that he will cash in on players, The players that have left have done so by their choice or were surplus to requirements.

  14. Hugh de Payen says:
    December 22, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    “I wonder whose decision it is to buy and sell players at NUFC anyway.”

    Ashley and Llambias are clueless about football though, Hugh. They didn’t hunt down good, but hardly obvious signings such as Tiote and Ben Arfa. However, by all accounts, the meddling and sheer idiocy of Llambias and Ashley makes negotiating for players a very difficult process indeed as they seem to keep moving the goalposts constantly. Calderwood made some of the most insightful comments about life behind the scenes at SJP though, and if what he said is correct, and with such a mediocre manager, I hold out little hope that the club will move on significantly now as it is little different from the days of Keegangate. Ashley has pissed all over his, and the club’s chips.

  15. any idea when gosling will be back? would love to see him pull a black and white shirt soon!

  16. Worky do you think CH should have and would have kept working under such constraints put on him by the bumbling baboons continually dictating to him who he should bring in as players and even his No2 ?

  17. Apparently Sepp Blatter says that losing World Cup bidders should learn to lose gracefully. What an ass…it’s not about losing gracefully…it’s about losing fairly…

  18. I certainly agree with the fact neither Ashley or Llambias, know much about the game (business)and because it`s frequently stated that Ashley has spent millions since buying the club, IMO doesn’t indicate that he is in any way concerned about the clubs future.
    Any money spent, was simply to protect his investment.
    I`m still surprised by the fact he has never brought in a top management guy like the top clubs, someone with experience in the business.
    To rely on people like Llambias is like the blind leading the blind, but guess he`s a good yes man.
    Also the fact he fired an excellent manager and replaced him with someone who`s career has been questionable at best makes one wonder.
    Had he then brought in one of the Dutch masters, it may have been more acceptable.
    I believe it was a case of panic on his part, fear of the drop, but then again perhaps Hughton’s days were always numbered and having achieved promotion, he was always going to be replaced, by a big name ?
    With only the excuse of a coupla losses.
    Don’t know who decided on Tiote and BA, decent buys who will if we dont get relegated add a bit of quality to the side.
    Were still a bit short on quality but could if managed right become a competitive side in a coupla seasons, but have my doubts about Pardew.
    And when i hear stuff like searching the second tier for players, my reply is “we done done that” and most didn’t work out, lets go for quality over quantity.
    But then we know this guy`s not gonna put his hand in his pocket, ah well !

  19. Chuck hows you, as for getting in a top management guy I think that has been one of the biggest mistake he has made, and could have saved so many of the other mistakes he has made, and I really think things could have been so different

  20. CC – I really can’t be bothered going through this again, but he bought the club without doing any due dilligence, his fault. He found out when he’d got it that he had about 100m of debts that needed paying upon change of ownership from SJH. He had no choice!

    On the transfer front I think we need to be careful as every window apart from last Jan and this summer the club have sold before they have bought, hence him not spending money.

    Either way, the guy’s a clown who was and still is only interested in enhancing his own company (SD) by association to NUFC. He’s holding onto the club until such a time when mobile phone football streaming and such like comes into play. O2, Vodafone and the likes will be paying millions and millions in streaming rights. He’s waiting until then and in the meantime spending as little as possible.

    He aint thick, but unfortunately he aint a good football club owner either.

  21. It appears Houllier @ Villa wants to unload Both Ireland and Dunne.
    Now there`s a couple of decent players who would fit in well.
    On his day there`s fewer better attacking midfielders than Ireland, great passer can run into space and gets his share of goals, a very perceptive player.
    As for Dunne, sometimes looks a bit clumsy and slow,but he is in fact pretty solid defender.
    Doubt if Ireland would come cheap, but would be nice to have someone with his talent, as for Dunne, would help solidify our defense and be a good backup, probably come at a reasonable price.
    Then again i`m sure other clubs will be checking them out.

  22. Chuck inks going well, the snow was nice at 1st but I’ve got pissed off with it now and lastnite was a nippy -10 and the roads are bad but it do’s mean I dont really need to drive the Lass about much unless it is important ;) .
    As for Ireland I think if he got a move to the right club he could regain the form he was known for, but I think he will be too dear

  23. Stuart79 says:

    “We’ll see. If Ashley wants to take the cash he will.”

    Were you dropped on the head as a baby Stuart ? I try to think of obvious reasons why you’re so naturally negative about all things NUFC and thats the only reason I can come up with ?

    OK so CH has gone and we’ve only won once since he left and I still think Pardwho is a joke but it could be worse.

    Your beloved team could play in red and white stripes, in some godforsaken hole where children only see the light of day when they go to collect their (single parent) Mother’s family allowance benefit.

    Just think how suicidal you’d be then ?????

  24. Chucles said

    “It appears Houllier @ Villa wants to unload Both Ireland and Dunne. Now there`s a couple of decent players who would fit in well.”

    Why do you think GH wants to get rid of them Chuckles ?????

  25. look lads, pardew is ashleys guy. we all loved chrissy but lets be honest, he was never ashleys guy. he was a filler that turned into the best thing to happen to the club. he was bigger then the fat man. but chrissy had very little power at the club. its fair to say that pardew will have much more of a say in what goes on with players because ashley wants to look good with his hiring of pardew. barton, carroll, and the rest of our top 17 or so players will go nowhere. i expect to see xisco, best, and maybe smitty sold, and some young lads like vukic, fergy, and kadar out on loan to get games…

    long live joey barton

  26. Andy – Could you tell me which planet you’ve been living on since May 2007?

    Everything Ashley has done has had a negative impact on the club. What am I to say? Do you want me to lie and say everything’s great and that we have a great future under this guy? If so just let everyone on here into the secret, because I’m struggling to see a good futre with this idiot.

    Hope I’m wrong like.

  27. Mid season is not the time to be making wholesale changes to the squad and we will do little or no business.
    I would like to see a cheeky offer for Downing as Villa need money for rebuilding. In the 2011 summer the dead wood of Guthrie Ameobi Smith etc need to be moved on and more young players brought in. Get busy Jimmy Carr and find us more Tiote and Ben Arfa players

  28. Sgt. Heagerty what has you over here mate .org :lol:
    I would agree with you I think we have more chance of progression with Pardew because CH was simply MA’s )stop gap coach) until he got a manager in that he wanted ( Pardew) so I think he will back Pardew a bit more than he ever did or would do for CH

  29. Sgt Heagerty….hows things mate,were you not not yankeetoonsouljah on here? not seen ya since that tw@t wickywoowoo pissed everyone off on here and Ed’s.hope ya well.Have ya managed to visit the toon yet or have ya got a visit planned?

  30. I’m quite pleased to see this type of headline/quote, as it means that nothing interesting is happening at the club :)

    Don’t agree with worky here. If he’s asked a direct question its appropriate to answer it.

    Its nice to see no real stories … so the players can concentrate on the next game ;)

  31. Can anybody update me on whether Vuckic and Moyo are back to fitness. I have been missing in action lately

  32. Buda..Moyo played in the reserves 5-1 humpin of Man Ure the other day…..lasted til just after half time I think, other than that I kna nowt.

  33. Chuckles

    I’m with Andy on this one. There is a reason why Ireland, a player with undoubted talent was dropped from City and then subsequently sold. Funnily enough it’s the same reason he is currently dropped at Villa and is soon to be offloaded for the second time in the last 12 months. He is lazy and has no passion for football. It is just a job to him, that much is clear when reading through pretty much all of his interviews. I wouldn’t go near him with a barge pole.

    Dunne is a good player, but he is declining now. He has looked diabolical this year. Well off the pace.

    I would like to see the club go for someone like Diego Capel. A player that was being linked to top teams just 12-18months ago, but has fallen out of favour at Sevilla. We could probably snap him up for around 5-6million.

    There are a fair few good wingers out there right now. I’m confident that the club will make the right decision. We will probably have to wait until the summer though.

  34. Ireland was fantastic 2008/9 season especially when linking up with Robinho, he was ok-ish start of last season but since then he’s been on the whole woeful at worst, distinctfully average at best.In my opinion that’s down to one thing, shocking attitude. At one time I would have loved him but now I agree with El Toro and wouldn’t touch him with a bargepole…If he could change that and rediscover his form however, then that may be a different story!

  35. The best players to go for are ones that have fell out with their current manager/team mates. Or ones that are at a different league which they are too good for. Or ones that are at a club with unusually high competition for one place, (like 5 good strikers or 3 good LB’s all at one club) are are frustrated by lack of games.

    Anything else, like Ireland and Dunne. When the club tranfer lists them. It is because they are a player with poor attitude and/or not good enough. Steer clear. There is the odd exception to the rule where the player miraculously improves because the go to a club/manger they play to their potential for, (like in Irelands case) but that is unlikely.

  36. mike ashly has made some poor managerial decisions, but he has never sold anyone who didnt want to leave, he cud got rid of alot of players last year when we went down who are on massive wages but he didnt, so why some ppl on here suddenly think he wants start selling them all off now is beyond me, plus if we do sell players ashly dosent get the cash it goes to club, some of u who think ashly is gonna sell without making a profit are crazy n we a far attractive team to buy if were doin well with top players

  37. plus if we were ever to sell carroll he is worth a hell of alot more than 20mill id say double that there aint any player like him out there, plus id only sell him to real madrid jus so another prem team didnt get him

  38. I like reading all of these but ‘the grass isn’t always greener’ is a real interesting piece.

    http://www.leazesterrace.com/

    It annoys me when people bleet on, ‘look at the stars we lost after relegation, and we still somehow managed’, or ‘look at the value of the players that left’. The reality is a lot of those players were utter cack and have gone on to prove it the world over. Some were still talented players but non had the right attitude for NUFC at the time.

  39. Well it’s a weird things with transfers – you could say that players like Ireland and Dunne have been dropped and fallen off form – but then also that they’re too good for lower leagues and offer clubs in positions like ourselves some experience.

    In the same way, we probably got Tiote for such a small fee down to his restricted appearances last season; has he turned out to be a player like Ireland or Dunne? Then again, perhaps i’m being all too theoretical, and it’s just circumstancial :) …

    Have to say though i’m delighted with the noises coming out of the club these days players wise – Joey and Taylor want to remain at the club, Benny’s on the mend and the new manager has been accepted without any objection. So after such explosive anger/shock/disgust initially, are we somehow just being football fans and allowing things to carry on for the sake of stability and good aura? Wow, it feels pretty great to be a toon fan at the moment.

    So is Ashley to thank for.. Ah screw it, I dare not mention he who may not be named again :P haha. Causes way too much friction between fans. I see him just becoming a pub banter catalyst … Gonna cause dividing opinions but at the end of the day we’re all there just to support the toon so I think being fans who’ve now tasted life in the humblimg depths of fizzy pop football, we’re draining every bit of pleasure for things going right at the toon in the bog boy league :D

    Reet i’ve went right off on one when I didn’t mean to there, so goodnight chaps and hope the weather isn’t going to be a pain in the arse to too many of you!

  40. Peter Loverhands says:
    December 23, 2010 at 1:20 am

    “So after such explosive anger/shock/disgust initially, are we somehow just being football fans and allowing things to carry on for the sake of stability and good aura? Wow, it feels pretty great to be a toon fan at the moment.”

    Calm your semi mate, don’t forget, it’s all about results.

  41. seen this? Interesting.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/default.stm

    “Take Carroll, there were people at the club who wanted to sell him, and I refused it. We had an offer ad I said no, no chance. He was the future of the football club. Some people went with it, some people didn’t agree.”

    On Xisco and Nacho:
    “I didn’t sign them, very simple. They weren’t my signings.”

    “I don’t mind taking blame for things because that’s part and parcel of the game, but there was more than one person making decisions at the club.”

    Sounds to me like he is saying, i’ll hold my hands up and admit, and take the blame, for the decisions i’ve made, but it’s not all my fault, don’t put it all at my feet.

    hmmmmm no real excusives, but interesting all the same.

  42. That’s an interview with Dennis Wise by the way for all you lot using your phone and cant watch the video

  43. DJG i cant say i miss any of the c unts that have jumped ship ,as for given he told his agent too look for another club at the start of our relegation season ,i think some of them will regret leaving the toon but tuff shite.

  44. ILM without going over old ground, Wise was exposed as a twat by the court case, he would have been better to come out and say his piece then to have any credibility at all.
    He treated KK with utter contempt, end of story.

  45. batty says:
    December 23, 2010 at 8:21 am
    DJG i cant say i miss any of the c unts that have jumped ship ,as for given he told his agent too look for another club at the start of our relegation season ,i think some of them will regret leaving the toon but tuff shite.

    Agree about Given , he left when we needed him n he left for money. I have no problems with players leaving or moving to a bigger club , its part n parcel of the game , but he left for money and has left a sour taste in my mouth

  46. Who’s given? I don’t remember him? Oh yes the goalkeeper who left for another team that actually had competition for his position and found himself on the bench because he wasn’t the brilliant keeper Andy gray told us he was. His only competition at nufc is now warming the beach to a young dutch kid. :-)

  47. Does anyone know if members are going to get an opportunity to purchase the sunderland away tickets??

    The season ticket holders period expired on the 22nd December, but before that the status changed to ‘not available’

    Normally if they are sold out it says ‘sold out’

    Any clues ??

  48. bigbadbob says:
    December 23, 2010 at 8:24 am

    “ILM without going over old ground, Wise was exposed as a twat by the court case”

    Don’t be blinkered mate, no one came out of that court case looking good, including Keegan.

  49. I would rather bring Adam Johnson in on loan than try and purchase anybody. We need a striker too but surely that is more likely to happen in the summer.

  50. Johno-As much as Given’s bench warming at city makes me think “you got what you deserve”, I don’t really blame him for leaving us. He’d been here for 10 years and finally had enough. I’m sure money helped make his decision to move to city but you’ve also gotta consider he’s at the business end of his career and he wants to win things. Just a shame Joe Hart is better than him, lol.
    As for The likes of Duff, Beye, Owen etc they can all do one. Anyone who says they want to stay and help before buggering off at the first opportunity i couldn’t care less about. In hind sight I’m actually so glad they walked when they did. Our team had been packed full of w@nkers like that for years, change was needed. If relegation was the key then Christ I’m glad we went down, lol.

  51. I don’t blame Given either, and I get annoyed at how fickle people are about a player we all lauded for over a decade. He was one of our only consistent performers during the darkest of times. I don’t think he left for money, I think he left primarily for his sanity.

    As for all the other leavers, I’m sure they had one thing in common: they wanted to leave.

    Stuart and others talking about Ashley ‘cashing in if the offer is right’ don’t seem to get the most basic point of law: it’s not their choice. Either side can hold the other to the contract. Players can force their way into a transfer by putting in a request and then refusing to play – but it knackers their reputation so often backfires.

    I get totally sick of people who listen to these stupid rumours. Every shred of sense, evidence, logic and past actions suggests they’re rubbish, yet people go for them.

    Boredom, perhaps. One cancelled match and we all turn into mongs!

    By the way, anyone who’s spent time in Cumbria will enjoy this: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/environment/earthquake-frightens-cumbrians-into-giving-up-incest-201012223381/

  52. Ross / Whumpie

    If given left for trophies id say fair enough but he went for the money. Yeah fair enough city are going places but given left us for money.

    Yeah given gave us 10 good years but we also gave him 10 years. The club gave him his chance to become the player he became ( the best shot stopper in the world imo ) and i thought he should of stayed for the rest of the season.

  53. That has been my view for a long time in regards to shay ( comment 74 ) but i was thinking about it this morning after i posted, I think the sale of given was 1 of many nails that sent us down.

    I think relegation was the best thing to happen to this club for a long time , we get rid of the hanger on’s such as owen ,

    So maybe shay leaving was a blessing in disguise :)

    Or maybe im mellowing in my older age :)

  54. Whumpie says:
    December 23, 2010 at 11:22 am

    Oh turn it up, man!

    Forget Given and Nzogbia. They might have wanted to go but we should have kept them until the end of the season and we could have done – Simple! The fact is we had to sell them so we could buy R Taylor and Nolan (Great business!).

    The other players who left under KK and Alladyce were sold to fund players coming in. Yet again great business! Look were it got us.

  55. I just don’t see that. Given had been through all the horrors of the previous ten years and stayed at it. Eventually he fell out with his new owner and manager, and openly just said he’d had enough. He was the only 1st-team regular who’d been through the mill like that. The fact that it was the newly-monied Citeh who took him was, I think, a secondary issue.
    If Given was about money or trophies over loyalty, he could have jumped ship many times over those 10 years to one of the ‘big four’.
    I just don’t like him getting grief when he was one of very few who had the guts to tell Ashley to shove it and go. I don’t see how anyone could have done more than him to demonstrate loyalty before that, and he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
    Just an opinion, mind; we’ll never know. But why assume the worst every time? Doesn’t do anyone any good, yet it happens on here every day – it’s like an episode of ‘grumpy old men’. Or like having a conversation with my dad. ;)

  56. Stu: yep, I think you’re right there. But the players had to want to go, too.
    If Ashley really did want to sell Carroll (why would he?) he couldn’t force it and he knows that. But the bigger point is this: what has he done in the past that would suggest he’d do that? He has never sold a player that didn’t want to leave and who was delivering the goods for us. Ever.
    He’s made some monumentally egotistical, misguided and plain stupid mistakes, but – so far – never that.

  57. By the way – in my rose-tinted world I also like to think that Given gave Ashley some much-earned abuse on the way out. Those were dark days and he had it coming; Given was never one to hold his tongue when stuff needed saying.

  58. Actually, I think Given went early partly because he demanded it, and partly because we had good cover anyway. Insomnia went because he was a nasty, petulent little shite who was poison and couldn’t be bothered to put any effort in. In both cases I personally think we were right to shift ’em out. But I can see both sides on that one – after all, we did go down!

  59. Whumpie says:
    December 23, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    But the bigger point is this: what has he done in the past that would suggest he’d do that?

    Whumpie – He hasn’t done anything like that in the past, but my point is that everytime we think he cannot do something as stupid as the last time, he suprises us and does exactly that. You really wouldn’t be suprised if he did sell Carroll.

    His track record is so poor when it comes to decisions regarding the club.

    I have absolutely no faith in the guy, I’m sorry but he’s just made too many mistakes.

  60. Fair point, Stu – can’t blame anyone for losing all optimism in someone who’s been as big a git as he has.

  61. On a different note: I see Shola’s unlikely to be fit for Sunday. Personally I think that’s a shame: he has a habit of doing well against the better defences… if he’s fit. He’s also excellent for getting defences utterly knackered by the hour mark, to then make way for Ranger to shred ’em.

  62. Lads how do I post a link???

    Won’t let me post if I include a link?

    Evening Chronicle stating the Steve Tayls set to sign new contract within 24 hrs..

    Jose and Joey next please…..

  63. Whumpie – Shola’s got the ability to knacker out defenses?!?!

    More like bore the living crap out of them..

  64. I haven’t got any beef with Shay..

    He was a great player for us and he’d had enough and I can’t really blame him. He’d done a hell of a lot for us let alone the countless brilliant saves against great players and he was even in the team against Barca.

    Great man and although it’s slightly funny to see him on the bench – I wish him all the best..

  65. I might have known that was coming.

    It may just be coincidence with when he’s fully fit and when (as usual) he’s carrying a knock, but he has seemed to really cause problems for the likes of Terry when he put two past Chelski. Seems to have more problems with Blackpool and Stoke, mind!

    Also: who else? If you start Ranger, I think he’ll struggle against a good defence, as he’s just not got the nouse yet and relies on being quicker than them. He is, but when they’re fresh they can keep him contained – as we’ve seen.

    Lover’s clearly not been doing the biz in training, and I think his heart’s not in it at the mo, for some reason. Best? Hmm.

    I’m hoping to see Nolan in just behind AC, with Barton behind him and Routledge on the wing. Shedloads of natural attackers, basically.

  66. Whumpie –

    I’m glad you at least saw that coming..

    My team would be:

    Krul

    Simpson – Taylor/Williamson – Collo – Jose
    Barton – Nolan – Toto – Guti
    Carroll – Ranger (give him a start)

    Same as always really…

  67. I think that’s what we’ll see, Brettoon – but you never know what AP will decide to go with now he’s seen the lads in training and tried his own stuff.
    For me – and this isn’t exactly a qualified expert opinion – Ranger looks very green when up against experienced, fresh defenders and they’ve tied him down. Better to move Nolan up and use his guile, at least until they’ve lost some pace. Then bring Nile on, as per Liverpool match, to provide a whole new way to slice ’em up.
    But who knows? We may see Besty get a start. We just don’t get to see what AP does.

  68. Shay was a whining qunt at the end & spent plenty of time angling his way out, for more dosh.
    We’ve got better options now in goal & we’ve moved on, he is not missed.
    Who does he play for?

  69. The Evening Chronicle

    NEWCASTLE UNITED have been handed an early Christmas present with the news that Steven Taylor is on the verge of signing a new five-year contract at St James’ Park.

    And the Magpies could receive a further boost as the Chronicle understands Alan Pardew is close to making his first signing as Toon boss – believed to be a permanent deal for on-loan French star Hatem Ben Arfa.

    Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2010/12/23/steven-taylor-set-to-sign-new-nufc-contract-72703-27875090/#ixzz18wg3mY00

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2010/12/23/steven-taylor-set-to-sign-new-nufc-contract-72703-27875090/

  70. Big Dave says:
    December 22, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    “Worky do you think CH should have and would have kept working under such constraints put on him by the bumbling baboons continually dictating to him who he should bring in as players and even his No2 ?”

    Dave,

    I don’t think that anyone was dictating which players he should bring in. I do think from what personnel at the upper levels of the club have said, from the days of Keegan and Wise through to very recently (when Calderwood scarpered) that transfer negotiations weren’t made easy by the interference of “bumbling baboons”, Derek Llambias and Mike Ashley. As for the no2 situation, not all of the facts are in on that one yet.

  71. Stuart79 says:
    December 23, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    “You really wouldn’t be suprised if he did sell Carroll.”

    I wouldnt be surprised, I would be astonished as he has never sold anyone who isnt requesting to leave or is totally out of favour and i would love to see some evidence to the contrary…

  72. What a shit day/week.

    Boiler broken – £500.
    Car broken – £500.
    Christmas – Hate it.

    Off to work now. Pretty low, but I’ll live I guess, no doubt spurely to shell out more money I don’t have on shitty things that break :(

  73. think STaylor might start if Pardew can get his contract fixed? Or more importantly, would STaylor be started if his contract isn’t arranged in time for the Citeh game?!

  74. Shrews-according to .com, the scum away is completly sold out. Obviously members only get a chance to purchase should their be any left from season tickets holders and I seriously doubt that like.

  75. shrews mag

    There is a period where they don’t sell any tickets before they move on to the next sales period. Just keep checking, I doubt they are sold out, although it obviously will be popular.

  76. Usually when they sell that quickly the club can allocate some more but with it being a high risk category match im not sure they will.

  77. I’d expect it to sell out pretty much immediatly like. ST holders with loyalty points will snap up scum away in a matter of days.

  78. Shrews…defo sold out, I’ve got 19 loyalty points and it got as low as 20 required then sold out.1 more day and I would have been there :cry:

  79. chuckles says:
    December 22, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    “Don’t know who decided on Tiote and BA, decent buys who will if we dont get relegated add a bit of quality to the side.”

    Chris Hughton did, Chuckles. He spotted Tiote as far back as when he was a coach under Keegan and went to the Netherlands on a scouting mission. However, as Mike Ashley and Derek Llambias are lying, amoral bastards, they ‘leaked’ a dishonest story to the press when they sacked Hughton suggesting that all the best signings were signed by them at the sugggestion of Chief scout, Graham Carr in order to discredit Hughton in some way, suggesting that he was merely a “manager” in name only.

    “Graham Carr, the chief scout of Newcastle United, was behind the transfers of Mike Williamson, Dan Gosling, Cheik Tiote and Hatem Ben Arfa, while Hughton is said to have been unaware of the French international’s talents altogether.”

    This is their usual dishonest modus operandi. When Keegan left, they also leaked a false story to the press suggesting that Kevin Keegan was mad, and expected Ashley to go on a £200 million spending spree buying players such as Frank Lampard and Thierry Henry when the club was on it’s knees financially.

    “Keegan proposed signing David Beckham, Ronaldinho, Frank Lampard and Thierry Henry. “It was so bizarre that you had to wonder if he was doing it on purpose, to try to get sacked,” our source said.”

  80. me too mate, there’ll probably be empty seats like last time but the tw@ts won’t allocate us anymore…or at least they didn’t last time :-(

  81. I stand corrected it was the 1-4 game when they had a load of empty seats, they’ve pretty much sold out the last 2…..they’re still tw@ts tho ;-)

  82. blog p!ss up mate, think Toonsy is going to do an article on it to see how many are interested in going. I think DJG said he’d sort out a bus for those travelling from this end or a motorbike and sidecar depending on how many are interested. :-)

  83. Just seen this on nufc.com

    NUFC confirm that their outstanding Premier League visit to Birmingham City has been provisionally arranged for Tuesday February 15th 2011, with a 7.45pm kickoff.

  84. Well worky Im gonna stand back and watch what happens first before jumping to the conclusion that Hughton was a master talent spotter/ Carr and Pardew will be not as good.

    Im sorry like but where is the clear hard evidence that Hughton tracked Tiote ‘when he was a coach under keegan’ or that he knew anything about ben arfa, or did some guy tell you in the pub. Please don’t give a link to some local crooked as a snake newspaper or fans site, without any hard evidence Im not intersted. What your saying is essentially as fabricated as Ashley which you label as ‘dishonest modus operandi’.

  85. richietoon

    Im writing the article mate. Its due on boxing day to get as many viewers as possible. Better get typing, you know any good jokes. ;)

  86. IMO there is also a strong possibility that the club were tracking these players as potential targets and C.H was invited along to give his opinion and cast judgement. That seems like a much more logical conclusion to me. Managers generally just simply don’t have time to be travelling about watching random matches on the continent in the hope that they unearth a gem. That is what scouts are for and then the manager says yey or nay. It is also why scouts are a spy in the sky and you don’t know what they look like. When managers go on scouting missions they are likely to get spotted. Sorry for pi### on your bonfire like.

  87. DJG says:
    December 23, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    “Im sorry like but where is the clear hard evidence that Hughton tracked Tiote ‘when he was a coach under keegan’ or that he knew anything about ben arfa, or did some guy tell you in the pub.”

    DJG, are you dishonest or just too thick to remember anything for longer than five minutes?

  88. Now im ‘dishonest’. Im still not seeing anything that suggests remotely to me that Hughton scouted those players, nor am I likely to ever about Pardew, Keegan or any other manager. It is just pure rumour and hearsay as far as I can see.

  89. asda!s just reported someone drunk,smoking a joint,wearing a thong and riding a plastic reindeer.
    i!ll come and get you RICHIETOON this time but this shit has to stop

  90. Alright then lets try an new vain of inquiry. Is it not the case that in the time since Graham Carr has arrived we have signed more valuable/ likely to succeed players. This is of course a matter of opinion but I’d be intersted to learn yours.

  91. Louise Taylor. I’d trust my cat to not eat my fish and chip supper as much as anything that comes out of her pen.

  92. Assuming this even is true does it not say ‘on a scouting mission sent by Keegan’. Well thats not him then is it. :)

  93. DJG,

    “I wouldn’t agree that he’s a defensive midfielder – I never agreed with that when I saw people say it after we signed him,” Hughton said.

    “I think he gets labelled that because he’s a competitor. Certainly in a three in midfield he can play as the anchor man, if you will, and he did that at Everton and Manchester City.

    “He can play in a holding role, being competitive and playing a disciplined and responsible part, but he is mobile enough to break forward from a deep position.

    “I’m not saying that he’ll score a hatful of goals for us but he can get forward well and that is the kind of contribution that makes it easier for others to score…”

    “I always knew he would be the type of player who would do well in the Premier League. He has the kind of build and mentality you want,” Hughton added.

    “Getting players like Cheick in, it’s all about a network of scouts. I had seen him myself and when that is the case it sometimes stays in your mind.

    “He was one we’d looked at over a longer period. I saw him a couple of years ago but Newcastle’s scouts knew him even before then, when he was in Belgium. It was a long process, but we were delighted to get our man and he’s proving us right at the moment.”

    http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2010/10/17/cheick-tiote-is-newcastle-united-s-michael-essien-79310-27486953/2/

    You have already read these and other, and passed comment on them, which leads me to the conclusion that you are either too stupid to remember anything, or you are being dishonest.

  94. DJG says:
    December 23, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    “Louise Taylor. I’d trust my cat to not eat my fish and chip supper as much as anything that comes out of her pen.”

    I have just posted something from Hughton himself, DJG. Now STFU!

  95. I haven’t read any of these articles before, which leads me to the conclusion that you jump to conclusions. That Louise Taylor one is news to me.

    ‘You have already read these and other, and passed comment on them,’

  96. ‘I saw him a couple of years ago but Newcastle’s scouts knew him even before then, when he was in Belgium.’

    Youv’e just proved my point. FFS if your gonna pretend Hughton found this guy don’t post that bit. :)

  97. icedog says:
    December 23, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    “DJG you on the drink m8?”

    He just hates Chris Hughton for some reason, and tries to discredit his achivements at the club at every opportunity.

  98. DJG says:
    December 23, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    “Youv’e just proved my point.”

    How, DJG? Do you know how long it is since he played in Belgium? Why do you hate Chris Hughton so much that it drives you to attempt to lie about him in order to discredit him?

  99. CHRIS H. saved the toon doing a leeds, hull/c ect ect,with v,little help,anybody that cannot see that MUST be drunk imo,not saying hes a great manager but a gentleman that done what we needed at the time,which few others could have done

  100. any 1 who slags hughton knows nowt about footy ,i called him clueless as a joke ,what he has done with the same players that we went down with and a few additions is amazing,how he has brought carrol on in a short space of time is amazing ,no cash too spend barton playing his best footy ever ide say,DJG the new clueless on the blog :)

  101. icedog says:
    December 23, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    “WORKY did toite not say at one point that S.M!C told him of C.H.intrest,sure i read that somewhere”

    McLaren told Tiote himself that he would be perfect for the Premier League, and I’m sure you’re right that it was he who told him of Newcastle’s interest in the player, but I can’t remember anything exact on that, Ice.

  102. Worky

    Why do you credit C.H for everything he has done, which I have admitted to you in the past where he has done good and where he hasen’t.

    When you mention Pardew you go at length to discredit him and mention all of his failing and past problems with little or no mention of his achievements succeses.

    IMO which is different to your and everyone elses, I think Hughton did a good enough job yeas and didn’t deserve the sack. I acknlwledge that he got us promoted at the first time of asking but I also acknowledge where I didn’t like things about him, with you there is only poisitive.

    With Pardew you do the opposite and tottaly discredit anything he as done, you say he got big clubs relegated to league 1, which big clubs? I believe Stu is still waiting for the answer to that as well. Also when Pardew went down with clubs I think you’ll find he had nowhere near the funds that were available to Hughton and had to start again effectivly from scratch with lower wages, although he managed it. Yet you can only condemn him and point out his weaknesses.

    I like to mention the pro’s and con’s of every player/manager thats why I find it difficult to understand he you suggest I seek to credit/discredit people.

  103. WORKY think it was some over-sea press when he told c.h.if he returned to manage in P.L.he would be only player he would take from his last club

  104. batty says:
    December 23, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    “what the fcks going on with that voting on comments on judases blog”

    It’s a simple plugin you can put on any WordPress ‘blog (This blog and Ed’s are both WordPress). Didn’t fancy it for this one.

  105. DJG says:
    December 23, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    “you say he got big clubs relegated to league 1, which big clubs?”

    He took Charlton from the Premiership to League One, DJG.

    “I think you’ll find he had nowhere near the funds that were available to Hughton and had to start again effectivly from scratch with lower wages, although he managed it.”

    Huge funds available to Hughton?

    Relatively speaking, Pardew’s Southampton in league One were like Newcastle in the Championship with the backing of Liebherr. Yes, they did have a ten point deduction from the administration before Liebherr took them over, but they didn’t evem make the playoffs. If you want to see the difference between a real manager and a poor one, look at West Ham when Pardew was sacked and Curbishley came in to save them from relegation.

    BTW, don’t do the “I like Chris Hughton really” routine, while using weasel words to undermine everything about him. At least I’m honest about what I think about Pardew and don’t try to deceive.

  106. icedog says:
    December 23, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    “WORKY think it was some over-sea press when he told c.h.if he returned to manage in P.L.he would be only player he would take from his last club”

    I’ll keep my eyes peeled for that one, Ice.

  107. So Charlton are a big club are they.

    I think you’ll find if Barton, Nolan, Collocini, Jonas, Enrique were sold behind Hughtons back last summer and replaced with 5-10 grand a week players we would be in the same position. Although you ignore that fact as it doesn’t suit your arguement.

  108. he didnt take charlton to league one,he took them to mid table in the championship,then left, phil parkinson took over and charlton got relagated the next season,charlton sold most of there best players when they went down to the championship and struggled as you would,also if you look at league 1 table i dont see southampton running away with the league??? if they are so superior to the rest of the league?????

  109. belfast geordie

    don’t be posting facts based statements like that, it doesn’t fit his anti-Pardew propaganda machine.

  110. Belfast-No he didn’t. He joined them when they were in the Premier League and failed to keep them there, however they were in 19th place and in a terrible state, so you can’t really blame him. When in the championship however, they bought players and were widely regarded as promotion candidates. They finished a disappointing 11th. In his second season in the CC with them, he went 8 games without a win and was given the boot after a 5-2 home loss, Charlton lingering at the bottom of the league.

  111. icedog says:

    “asda!s just reported someone drunk,smoking a joint,wearing a thong and riding a plastic reindeer.
    i!ll come and get you RICHIETOON this time but this shit has to stop”

    Was about to give that my 10/10 award for wit and humour until I saw it originated at fblurk.com. Which is where I got this :

    “Tim Richardson
    Going to Asda is like being in an episode of Shameless”

    Happy Christmas

  112. 10 point deduction at southampton just missed out on the playoffs,if anyone remembers righty southampton were down to the bare bones before he got the job,some dutch guy was in charge it was more or less a bunch of kids cause they couldnt afford the senior players wages,then they got took over, pardew came in and done a good job in my opinion.the only reason he left southampton was becasuse he dint get on with cheif exc or something.

  113. FFS have none of you ever heard of wikipedia ?

    “Pardew’s absence from management lasted less than two weeks when he was appointed manager of Charlton Athletic on Christmas Eve 2006, signing a three-and-a-half year contract.[14] He took over with Charlton in 19th place in the Premier League, with just 12 points and a –20 goal difference, the lowest in the league. Although Charlton’s form improved under Pardew,[15] he was unable to keep Charlton up, resulting in the first relegation of his career, both as a player and manager.[16]

    Many expected Charlton to bounce back from relegation into the Premier League with signings such as Chris Iwelumo and Luke Varney in the 2007/08 season. But Charlton failed to mount a serious promotion challenge and finished the season in 11th. This put Pardew under pressure going into the 08/09 season but Charlton started the season off well with victories over Reading and Swansea. However, Charlton’s form very quickly deteriorated and they were near the foot of the table after 8 games without a win. After an inept display in a 5-2 home defeat to Sheffield United hundreds of supporters remained for more than an hour to condemn their manager, chanting, “We want Pardew out” and “We want our club back” after Charlton had slipped into the Championship’s bottom three.[17] [18] On 22 November 2008, Pardew parted company with Charlton by mutual consent.[19]”

    We want Pardew Out – ring any bells ??

  114. belfast-He didnt get on with a chief exec. because it was widely rumoured he was having an affair with the wife of a colleague.

  115. I totally disagree with what happened to Hughton and think its disgraceful the way he has been treated. I wanted to see him given a new contract and the backing of the board. But what I can also say about Pardew as I’m related to a former coach of his and he was only ever positive about him. Players at his former clubs seem to respect him as well. I think all we can do no as fans is give him time to see how he does with our club.

  116. “I think all we can do no(w) as fans is give him time to see how he does with our club”

    Great idea Simon, let’s wait until we get relegated then we’ll assess his performance.

    Pardwho is nothing but a Llambias/Ashley stool pigeon. Appointed by buffoons who know very little about football but loads about the retail/gaming industries.

    Until Fatman brings in a football man to run this club, everything he says or does is about as useful as tits on a rocking horse

  117. AndyMac says:
    December 23, 2010 at 11:10 pm
    “I think all we can do no(w) as fans is give him time to see how he does with our club”

    Great idea Simon, let’s wait until we get relegated then we’ll assess his performance.

    Like we did under C.H then?

  118. @worky – any chance you can change the header settings on the blog, we’ve been bought out and had our work proxy changed so this site is now blocked – think it’s in the configuration settings somewhere – worse thing is that ed’s isn’t blocked as he’s obviously changed his already
    Cheers mate

  119. Maybe he is AndyMac, but up to now he hasn’t really had any games at all to prove is worth. The Liverpool game was all down to Hughton and his pre match prep, first goal was a training ground set up. Now Pardew has had a couple of weeks, we will see how good or bad he will do with Newcastle, then we can judge.

    The vast majority of us are not happy with the way the club is being run, but there’s very little we can do about it. We need a nice big offer to come in and Ashley to accept, but will the next owner be any better. Who knows and if he/she/they are as bad or worse, again nothing we can do about it. All we can do now is support the team and hope for the best

  120. Well, well, well! Worky seems to be believing the press regarding the Hughton finds Tiote story.

    Finally the evidence is clear – Worky picks and chooses the media stories he believes to suit his arguments at the time.

  121. I thought that’s why clubs had a scouting network? They informed Hughton about tiote he went to see him etc etc – he already said this on nufctv ages back
    Hughton said himself that he had final say on transfers so if he didn’t want a player he could say no, therefore all signings were down to him – or are you now saying Hughton was a liar
    I don’t see fergie, wenger or any other manager doing their own scouting – jeez you lt are something else

    A lot f it’s down to how much cash fat ash will spring him – Pardews already said he might bring in a couple of “squad” players in which sounds more like best/perch types than Ben arfa or some of the names bandied about on t’internet

  122. squad players may also mean young kids, I would be happy wih that to be honest.

    Can you believe people on Ed’s blog were saying connor Wickham wasn’t worth £5 million, or that maybe he was worth £1.5! f’kin idiots, how much was Carroll worth at 17? A four pack of special brew thats how much…

  123. So just for clarity, Pardew has never, ever relegated a ‘big’ club down two divisions?

    I’d go as far as saying he’s never relegated a big club actually.

  124. forget the semantics, i’ve just been confirmed as having a Sunderland ticket, MERRY CHRSITMAS INDEED!!!