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Pardew: “I’m not going to put out teams just to look at fringe players”

Posted on April 16th, 2011 | 34 Comments |

Newcastle United manager Alan Pardew
Preparing the totem pole for Man United
Newcastle United manager Alan Pardew has said that fringe players won’t be played just to get a look at them and insists that he’ll be putting out his strongest squad until the end of the season.

On Tuesday we’re hosting some little team of no-hopers from Manchester. I think they call themselves ‘United’, although I’m not sure.

The Alan Pardew Project has been talking about how he thinks the Manchester United manager might approach the game:

Alex will be looking at it and thinking it’s a really big game on their agenda.

He’s got us and Arsenal away, and he probably thinks they’re two tough games which will have a massive bearing on their season.

I think he will target it. He won’t come here resting players because it’s the Premier League, not the FA Cup semi-final, and that’s their priority.

He will police today’s semi-final and if he can save players for Tuesday, or take someone off to protect them, he will.

They will be a really tough team to beat, but we’re really looking forward to it. We hope this is a difficult place for them to come. We’ve beaten Liverpool here in my first game, and we want another scalp.

For any literalists out there I should point out that as far as I know Alan pardew is not a Red Indian and will not be setting about Ryan Giggs with a Gillette Fusion and a pair of gardening shears.

Pardew then goes on to assess how he thinks the season is going.

It’s been a good season, but we’ve still got work to do.

We’re a stable mid-table side at the moment, but we’ve got six games to go and we want to finish well.

It’s been a good season for a newly-promoted side, but it’s only at the end of the season when you can reflect.

We want to move forward, and there’s a little bit of stuff going on at the moment in terms of building the squad for next season. There are some players here who are playing for their future, and that’s a good thing to have at this stage of the season.

I’d like a win, or another couple of points, as quickly as possible, because then we could start to look at what various players’ situation will be at the end of the season.

Which is fair enough, but I wonder how we’re going to assess those players because he goes on to say:

But I’m not going to put out teams just to look at fringe players. I think it’s important we finish well because of the momentum that brings going into next season. I’m going to play my strongest side where I can.

So I presume the ‘fringe’ players will be assessed on the training ground and in reserve matches. I’m not necessarily being critical of that policy because we can only put 11 players on the pitch at one time and we need to win matches, but sometimes players don’t shine until they’re given the opportunity to do so.

Take Leon Best as an example. Okay, he may not be a ‘world class striker’ but, once he was given the opportunity, he proved himself (to me at least) to be far better than I thought he was.

Maybe it is inevitable at every football club. Good players slip through the net through lack of opportunity and then they go somewhere else, get the opportunities and prove themselves.

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34 Responses

  1. We have to aim to finish as high as possible to encourage others to sign and Jose and the like to stay.
    I’m sure Ashley would want that in order to sell season tickets.

  2. clint are you still in the scratcher?

    there’s a free royal wedding dvd with the daily mail – hope you’ve reserved a copy as they’ll be gannin like hot cakes m8.

  3. I had a dream that we beat Manure 9-0 last night. I wish!

    Anyway, we just need to go all out against our remaining games and we should be fine. I say a cheeky 1-1 draw for us against Manure.

  4. nufc337 says:

    “all this talk of jose and barton going doing my head in :(”

    Nowt we mere mortals can do about it nufc so just go with the flow. Wait until the summer but dont, whatever you do, part with any of your hard earned on a new ST until the Fatman sells up or shows us the colour of his money

    Quid pro quo and all that :)

  5. Hugh that was a short retirement from blogging. maybe ufc wasn’t for you. Bobby good to see you back rattling cages

  6. I don’t reckon Partridge would be able to manage big players just as well cos Mike won’t be letting him buy anyone decent in the summer anyway.
    Another frustrating window beckons goodbye Barton,Nolan,Collo,Jose etc
    Come back JK you are a legend compared to this Puppet.

  7. Toonrus-wannabe moderator?
    It’s a Blog-it’s all about opinion-if you don’t like it you know what to do :lol:
    Go Fk a partridge maybe?

  8. if history is anything to go by,we’ll be screwed in the summer under ashley.although there still appears to be a few people want to give him yet another chance,to do the right thing.of course we can wait it out until the end of august,and hope against hope,that ashley will change.
    is that just wishful thinking though?,we’ve been let down by him in the past in all but one window,albeit in the championship.i suppose time will tell,but since he turned up,it seems to be a “buzz word” among fans,wait until the window closes,then we’ll judge him.
    as for alan pardew,stop trying to hard to get everyone on side,do the talking on the pitch,you are coming across like a ventriloquists dummy,with mike ashley’s hand firmly up your a**e.

  9. For the literalists out there, your comment at the end, Trojan 69, is quite amusing to imagine; although certainly no way to go around running a football club.

  10. TROJAN 69 says:
    April 16, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    “we’ll be screwed in the summer under ashley.”

    What a horrible image to put in peeple’s heads, Trojan!

  11. TROJAN 69 says:
    April 16, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    “aye worky,never thought of it like that lol.”

    I think it was the “screwed UNDER Ashley” bit, Trojan. It doesn’t bear thinking about!

  12. I’m not sure what Pardew is and isn’t in the dark about to be honest. His relationship with Ashley and Llambias remains a mystery to me. I have no idea how much say he has in things but I’ve never bought Ashley’s explanation that he was hired as a ‘more experienced’ manager.

    I’ll give Pardew credit where it’s due though, he’s done okay on the pitch so far. Time will tell how that pans out in the long run.

  13. I still cant make any sense of his appointment, obviously ive learned to live with it, and I think we all have accepted that he is the type of name/manager we will get with ashley as the overseer…

    But nothings changed really has it, since he took over, we are still inconsistent and our players still cant get their head around any formation other than 4-4-2. Im not trying to be anti pardew, it’s not his fault he got the job, the problems stem from the owner

  14. Jimbob says:
    April 16, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    “…and I think we all have accepted that he is the type of name/manager we will get with ashley as the overseer…”

    jimbob, While owners and Chairmen ultimately have the power to hire and fire on a whim at all clubs, I think that the saddest thing of all, after Allardyce, after the Keegan / Wise fiasco, and finally, the way Hughton was sacked, I think that the tables have turned in Newcastle United’s case.

    Managers talk to each other all the time and I think that the good ones who can pick and choose have, in effect, fired Newcastle. They won’t touch Newcastle United with a bargepole while Laurel and Hardy are running the club, unless perhaps they were offered a HUGE financial incentive which Ashley isn’t prepared to give. Hence, we are left with lower league desperados and ‘relegation specialists’ like Pardew.

  15. “Managers talk to each other all the time and I think that the good ones who can pick and choose have, in effect, fired Newcastle. They won’t touch Newcastle United with a bargepole while Laurel and Hardy are running the club, unless perhaps they were offered a HUGE financial incentive which Ashley isn’t prepared to give. Hence, we are left with lower league desperados and ‘relegation specialists’ like Pardew”

    Would you work for Fatman if you were a successful manager ?

    Of course you wouldnt. No one worth their salary would look the other way while the Chairman sold the No. 1 goal scorer/provider and then ask you to take the flak.

    Pardwho has sold his soul and for what ????????

  16. AndyMac says:
    April 16, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    “Of course you wouldnt. No one worth their salary would look the other way while the Chairman sold the No. 1 goal scorer/provider and then ask you to take the flak.”

    To be honest Andy, I don’t think it was Carroll, that could have happened at many other clubs when a bid like £35m for a player in his stage of development comes in, talented though he is. Pardew was also renowned long before he came to Newcastle for saying too much in front of the cameras and microphones and regretting it later. I think that it’s the experiences of several different managers over a longer period of time that has caused the problem.

  17. Worky, managers used to be wary of taking the Newcastle job before Ashley, the reason back then was pressure from shepperd (and some sections of supporters) for a kind of instant success, but we went from a title challenging team with keegan to utter crap with dalglish then guillit (in the space of two years) But managers still would take the job on because they knew they would get financial backing to build a team even tho they knew if they were not successful instantly they get the boot. (this is not pro shepperd in any way!)

    Its different now of course, no manager would, like you say touch the job, not because of pressure for instant success but because our owners will stab you in the back.

    Like Keegan said “you can’t trust them”

  18. Jimbob says:
    April 16, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    “Worky, managers used to be wary of taking the Newcastle job before Ashley, the reason back then was pressure from shepperd (and some sections of supporters) for a kind of instant success”

    jimbob, I understand more than most about the Hall / Shepherd years as I have studied them in great detail, and the accounts too! Yes, their handling of issues in Bobby Robson’s final day as manager of the club did them no favours. I also undertand perfectly well that it was seen as one of the most ‘difficult’ jobs in football in terms of expectation and other things. For what it’s worth, I had no time for the Hall Shepherd dynasty at all either. However I still beleive that Ashley and Llambias have plumbed new depths in terms of alienating good managers.

    I didn’t agree with BOTH sides in the Keegan fiasco at the time, and I did think that Ashley’s appointment of Keegan was foolish in the extreme, and was certain to end in acrimony. However I thought that Keegan did sum Ashley and Llambias’s administration of the club rather well in the full version of the Keegan mini rant you have quoted.

    His full ESPN column tirade against Ashley, Llambias and the Hughton sacking is worth reading again. Personally I don’t necessarily agree with every single part of it, but I think that parts of it do represent what alot of other managers think about the pair.

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=851112

  19. “To be honest Andy, I don’t think it was Carroll, that could have happened at many other clubs when a bid like £35m for a player in his stage of development”

    Worky the point you’re missing is that Fatman wanted to sell AC because he needed to recoup funds into the club in January (first half year financials)so he could show the club was making a profit.

    The fact that no one was brought in until after the window closed allowed Fatman to show the club in high profit. Either because he’s lining up a buyer or because he wants the books to show enough profit so he can grab back some of the “debt” before he sells.

    If anyone, particularly in the Ashley camp, disputes this then please try to arrange an interview between your beloved Fat Chairman and me so we can nail these alleged misconceptions once and for all.

    BTW I’m not expecting any responses from anyone, anywhere soon. FTF.

  20. PS. As a totally separate question and not related to this, or any other, thread,

    Who would you rather be right now ?

    1. Brighton and Hove Albion supporter
    2. Manchester City supporter

    If you dont know the history of these clubs then find ou before you choose but my vote goes to BHA.

  21. …AndyMac

    Bit of a closet Saints supporter meself like…

    p.s.
    Does your boyfriend know you’re here?

  22. “I still beleive that Ashley and Llambias have plumbed new depths in terms of alienating good managers”.

    Yeah Worky they have, also the fans. Carroll is not the main issue its just the prime example people use against Ashley at this moment. It started the day he took over a football club to use as a vehicle for sportsdirect. Pro Ashleys will defend him due to finacial input…Ashley increased the wage bill didnt he? alladyce’s settlement, keegans settlement, dennis wise, joe kinnear, relegation…there’s more but not enough hours in the day to list them.

    AndyMac, Carroll was for sale the moment he became of value, he knew he could get crazy money and he waited for the offer and probably couldnt believe his luck, it was perfect, getting 35mill is a great deal for a club who have owners with ambition to reinvest…Unfortunately that is not Newcastle United.

  23. Hoolie says:

    “…AndyMac

    Bit of a closet Saints supporter meself like…”

    Never mind Hoolie they cant hang you for it…………yet !!!!!