Nottingham Forest vs Newcastle United League Cup match preview

Nottingham Forest's City Ground.

It's at their place.

Venue: City Ground, Nottingham
Date: Tuesday, Sept 20th, 2011
Kick-off: 7:45pm
Referee: Lee Mason

Newcastle United are in action this Tuesday night, with a visit to see Dutch impressionist, Steve McClaren, and his struggling Nottingham Forest side.

The Magpies defeated a spirited Scunthorpe United team 2-1 in extra-time to earn a visit to the City Ground, while Nottingham Forest dispensed of rivals Notts County on penalties, after a 3-3 draw at home. There is no scheduled live broadcast for the match, so it will be time to scour the wonders of the world wide web once again to find a stream. Pop back here tomorrow for our match banter, and maybe someone may have been kind enough to share a link for you. If you find a decent one yourself, feel free to share your discovery with the rest of us.

Newcastle are coming into this game off the back of an impressive away performance at Villa Park, where in fairness, United deserved more than the point they earned. Nottingham Forest are probably still a little upset about their defeat to rivals Derby County at the weekend, it certainly seemed that way while I was at the Nottingham train station on late Saturday afternoon anyway. Newcastle’s last visit to Nottingham was in October 2009 during our Championship season, where we were defeated 1-0 thanks to a Dexter Blackstock strike.

Squads

Nottingham Forest: (From) To be updated.

Newcastle United: (From) Krul, Elliot, Harper, Simpson, R. Taylor, Ferguson, Coloccini, S. Taylor, Tiote, Cabaye, Gutierrez, Marveaux, Obertan, Gosling, Guthrie, Ben Arfa, Ba, Shola Ameobi, Lovenkrands, Best, Sammy Ameobi.

Mike Williamson, Mehdi Abeid, Davide Santon, Alan Smith and Haris Vuckic are unavailable for the Magpies due to injury. Kazenga Lua Lua, Ryan Donaldson and Phil Airey have loaned themselves to the lower leagues, so they are also unavailable. Hatem Ben Afra is finally back for what will be his first competitive appearance since that psychopathic numpty Nigel De Jong broke his leg, way back in October of last year. It remains to be seen whether Ben Arfa will start, I’m not sure he will, since he hasn’t even had a reserve team run out yet, but to be honest I don’t know. Maybe he will start. Maybe he won’t…

I expect to see Marveaux and Gosling play, as will Danny Guthrie. Lovenkrands and the Ameobi brothers may also start the game. James Perch may get a start at centre back, and that’ll be interesting to see how he handles it, if he does play there. We can also see if there really is a need to over panic if we lose Coloccini or Steven Taylor at any time during the season, due to suspension or injury.

Nottingham Forest have Marcus Tudgay, George Boateng, Chris Cohen and Paul Anderson (not the director) all currently injured.

Newcastle United possible formation.

I'm thinking 4-4-2 again.

Probable Formation

I think we’ll stick with the 4-4-2 formation, with Rob Elliot keeping goal for what would be his Magpies debut. To be honest, it really is difficult to pick a team and formation for this match. As you probably know by now (if you’ve been reading my previews), I prefer the 4-2-3-1 formation, but I think we will play that more often to accommodate Ben Arfa. So if he starts, we’ll likely play with the one striker. I still expect us to field a strongish first eleven, as it would be stupid to not actually try and win something that teams such as Oxford United have won more recently, than our last trophy triumph, the same year in which Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon in 1969. Allegedly.

I think Ryan Taylor will keep his left-back position on Tuesday, simply because the more games he plays there, the better he’ll get accustom to the position. Shane Ferguson may be drafted into that role though. Sammy Ameobi deserves a start, and his mobile older brother Shola, will likely partner Lovenkrands in attack. If you had told me 5 years ago, and bearing in mind I didn’t even know young Sammy existed or had talent, that there would be two Ameobi’s starting a match in the black and white shirt, I’m not quite sure how I would have reacted…

Match thoughts

Newcastle have a good chance of progressing to the next round tomorrow night, and I’ll be disappointed if we don’t pick up the win. Nottingham Forest are not doing too well at the moment, but these are the type of annoying games where a win or defeat for either team, could have interesting repercussions. I think Marveaux and Gosling will put in good performances, since they’ll want to impress Pardew and get themselves in the first eleven come Saturday afternoon against Blackburn. Somewhat of a forgotten figure, Danny Guthrie, will also want to impress, though he may be forced to play in a more holding role, to allow Gosling to roam forward. I’m sure all of us are excited for what could be Hatem Ben Arfa’s 52nd potential come back for Newcastle, and we’ll all be keeping a close eye on him.
What the managers say

Steve McLaren: “It will be a long time before we can go out in Nottingham again – and rightly so. But we have the chance to regroup when we play Newcastle in the Carling Cup, and, whoever shows up, we have to produce a performance to be proud of.

“It is very difficult to change the team when you have no players to do that with. When you get a few injuries, the squad becomes thin. We will have to see what team we can put out.”

Alan Pardew: “It’s a competition we feel we can do well in. We’ve got a lot of players who haven’t featured and are desperate to show their wares, so to speak.

“I look forward to seeing one or two of them on the pitch.”

Howay The Lads.

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30 Responses to “Nottingham Forest vs Newcastle United League Cup match preview”

  1. 1
    avatar sirjasontoon says:

    Be nice to get a cup run together heard Partridge is making many changes see what happens.
    Howay The Lads !

  2. 2
    avatar workyticket says:

    “There is no scheduled live broadcast for the match, so it will be time to scour the wonders of the world wide web once again to find a stream.”

    Hmmm. I hope there is one somewhere, but I have a feeling of foreboding about this one.

  3. 3
    avatar workyticket says:

    Still top of the league I notice SJT, and there’s a bit of a gap building too.

    You’ll be getting a mention in the “match banter” the morra.

  4. 4
    avatar BeeGuy says:

    Maybe one of the Toon based supporters will hook up their radio to UStream?

  5. 5
    avatar sirjasontoon says:

    Yeah it’s tight at the top as well…us cockney bastards know what we’re on about.
    Come on The Fookin Spuds !!

  6. 6
    avatar AndyMac says:

    workyticket says:

    “Hmmm. I hope there is one somewhere, but I have a feeling of foreboding about this one”

    I could be wrong but I think some organisation, maybe Sky/FA, is clamping down on streams in general. That might sound paranoid but its “Subscription Time” at Sky and football pays their bills.

    Recently noticed that streaming url’s, which get published, often get canned before the end of the transmission ?

    So my advice to all is try to choose a lesser known stream (maybe with foreign language) rather than the usual suspects.

    Here’s a starter for ten !

    http://www.ghacks.net/2011/08/24/myp2p-eu-alternatives/

  7. 7
    avatar workyticket says:

    sirjasontoon says:
    September 19, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    “Yeah it’s tight at the top as well…us cockney bastards know what we’re on about.
    Come on The Fookin Spuds !!”

    My Tottingham supporting friends down here in the smoke say “Cahmonyouspursah!”

    Chas without Dave was live on the old Joanna dahn the local rub-a-dub the other week, but sadly I missed it.

  8. 8
    avatar Paul in Hollywood says:

    Sounds like we already have some pre-match banter. Big thanks to Physix (?) for posting the link to the Villa match on Saturday. Greatly appreciated!

  9. 9
    avatar Jimbob says:

    Worky, cheers for adding the managers bit. Not my best preview, though I’m still struggling to function after the weekend.

    That 4-4-F***ing-2 bit though was merely a homage to Mike Bassett. As for the “Classy” comment on the other thread… That’s me all over. :-)

  10. 10
    avatar sirjasontoon says:

    Worky Cahmonyouspursah My Dad invented that.
    Love The Spuds me just follow Newcastle part time cos they are like humble and quaint oop Norf.
    CamannyeeeeYIDz!!

  11. 11
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Jimbob says:

    “Worky, cheers for adding the managers bit. Not my best preview, though I’m still struggling to function after the weekend.”

    Maybe that’s the reason you’ve forgotten to add the much heralded return of HBA in your team JB ? IMO he’ll start and Pardwho will be forced to change from 4-4-2. Fingers crossed because I just couldnt take Shirley/Loven as the twin axis of mediocrity :)

  12. 12
    avatar Jimbob says:

    I don’t think HBA will start AndyMac, I’m hoping he does too, but I reckon It’ll be an early 2nd half introduction maybe.

  13. 13
    avatar workyticket says:

    Jimbob says:
    September 19, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    “That 4-4-F***ing-2 bit though was merely a homage to Mike Bassett”

    Jimbob, one of Hugh’s pieces was blocked by Newsnow for the exact same thing, though strangely, it’s the first time it’s ever happened and they’ve published several articles from other sites with the same word completely uncensored since then.

    It’s possible that we have been reported by someone, so we must be careful.

  14. 14
    avatar Phisix says:

    No problem mate. I will scour as usual to find a stream if there is one. There was not one for the last CC match that I was aware of so hopefully this time there is, especially if Benny is getting a run out at some point.

  15. 15
    avatar Milner says:

    i’m with Jimbob on HBA coming into the game later, maybe after 60 mins or so, along with Sammy…But what about Kadar? Any chance he might get a run at CB, given that Willo is injured and Perch prefers RB/LB…

    i imagine:

    ————————–—–Harper————————

    Perch——-Kadar————Colo——Raylor

    Obertan——Gosling—–Gutherie——Marv

    —————Shola——-LovenK——–

    subs:
    Elliot, HBA, Sammy, Ba, Taylor, Tiote, Cabaye, Ferg.

  16. 16
    avatar Milner says:

    I’d prefer:

    ————-Eliot———–

    Raylor—Kadar—-Colo—-Ferg

    ——Gosling—-Gutherie—–

    Marv——–HBA———-Sammy

    ————BA—————-

  17. 17
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    Best should get some game time as we’re up against his arch-enemy (he’s a notts magpie).
    Perch used to play for NF too, so should get on.

  18. 18
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    Harper too, if he’s fit again.

  19. 19
    avatar JP...from The Rock says:

    Please God let there be a live stream, I couldn’t bare miss Benny Arfa’s hugely anticipated and overdue comeback appearance. I think he’ll be brought on at the hour mark as Pardew wouldn’t want to overplay him due to possible extra-time.

    3-1 to the Toon.

    HTL

  20. 20
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    Maybe he’ll give him the first half?

  21. 21
    avatar supermac says:

    Oh no, here we go again!
    A competition we could actually win (as in a trophy – remember trophies, open-top bus parade, celebrations) and what are we talking about? A weakened team with (I kid you not) a chance for youngsters Shameobi & Lovers to show what they can do (which we know, my god do we not know).

    So why on earth do we not go all out for matches we can win – and leave changes for games we probably can’t – especially when we are on a roll and confidence is high.

    Amongst all the baffling tripe Rud Guillet spouted there were actally a couple of jems – especially the point that you win things against poor & average teams not good teams – in other words rest your players against the top teams not the likes of Forest!

    Now, we have a run of games comming up were we can get results:

    Forest – cup
    points
    September 24 Blackburn (H) 3
    October 1 Wolverhampton (A) 1
    16 Tottenham (H) 3
    22 Wigan (H) 3
    31 Stoke (A) 1
    November 5 Everton (H) 3

    and why not?

    but then!
    19 Man City (A) 0
    26 Man Utd (A) 0

    So, go hell for leather for the next six games.
    THEN unleash our secret weapons Shameobi & Lovers in the games we havn’t got a snowballs chance in manchester of winning!

    Well, it might just take them by surprise!

    HWTL

  22. 22
    avatar Gremlin No1 says:

    Right here is a link for the forest game that you AL need do I get a prize!!!!

    http://www.firstrowsports.tv/

  23. 23
  24. 24
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Interesting article from Chris Reed in which he states “SportsDirect.com’s owner, Mike Ashley, also owns Newcastle United, currently 4th in the Premiership. He never wanted to own the club, he only ever wanted to buy and sell it for a quick buck but the buyer he had lined up pulled out after he had already bought it and he was stuck with it”

    Read more: http://chrisreed.brandrepublic.com/2011/09/20/sportsdirect-com-have-gone-too-far-with-newcastle-united-branding/#ixzz1YTp36KSc

  25. 25
    avatar AndyMac says:

    As for tonights line up, the papers are saying that Mehdi Abeid will start tonight !

    That would sit nicely with a 4-2-3-1.

    Back four
    Gosling, Guthrie
    Abeid, HBA, Marveaux
    Ba

  26. 26
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Just read on .com that “Davide Santon (knee), Mehdi Abeid (knee), Alan Smith (hamstring), Mike Williamson (ankle) and Haris Vuckic (hand) are all unavailable through injury, Dan Gosling is doubtful with a groin strain, while Michael Richardson is cup-tied following his goalscoring appearance for Leyton Orient against Southend United”

    So I guess we’ll stick with 4-4-2 with Shirley and Loven ? :(

  27. 27
    avatar workyticket says:

    AndyMac says:
    September 20, 2011 at 9:38 am

    “Interesting article from Chris Reed”

    Interesting picture of the new sign too Andy. It looks even worse than I thought it and and is crass in the extreme. It’s going to look worse still with all those huge Sports Direct banners covering the empty seats too. There are over sixty Sports Direct signs at SJP now.

  28. 28
    avatar madbazc says:

    gremlin
    been onthat site and cant find the toon game on that link, only leeds v the red shite, any more suggestions

  29. 29
    avatar carlb says:

    Need a link to the game guys??

  30. 30
    avatar valle says:

    Yah mate… Not if its radio tho

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