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Dan Gosling: Was he better off at Everton?

Posted on October 5th, 2011 | 62 Comments |

Dan Gosling.
Bye bye gosling?
I’ve got to admit, when we signed young Dan Gosling from Everton (On a free) I was very happy.

A young creative English player whose career seemed on the up. However after reading the Daily Fail’s article this morning, I’m dismayed to see he might be off to Doncaster.

Dan Gosling, where did it all go wrong?

Is this the trouble with flying high in the Premier League, only yesterday in my Tim Krul blog did I highlight how we can afford to give these youngsters a chance given our league position. Yet we have a bright young English player who wants to go and play his trade in Doncaster?

I feel that young Gosling may be regretting his trip to the Toon, at Everton, who were under resourced, he and Rodwell sent many a tongues wagging about how they were having a positive influence at Goodison. However all I really have seen from him in a Toon shirt is injury and reserve games. I do feel that he is good enough for our first team, which is why I’m so perplexed at this reported move to Donny.

If Newcastle are ready for him to go out on loan I must question why? Apart from Vuckic I’d rather we develop the young than play the other host of midfielders we have at the club.

If we really are trying to buy young talent for the future to develop the team on the cheap this is not the sort of story we want out in the press.

It’s all rumours at the moment but I hope he doesn’t have itchy feet come January

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62 Responses

  1. He’s being slowly brought back to full fitness, it’s the right thing to do at this point in his recovery.
    He’s young, his time will come & he’ll be fully ready.
    We want good back ups in the squad, that’s what it’s all about.

  2. More alarmist articles, please explain , Dan Gosling where did it all go wrong. For goodness sake we are only 7 games into the season

  3. Injured when we got him, needed a season to recover.

    Young cover for Tiote and Cabaye, without a run of games for well over a year, I believe the conspiracy theory that we are trying to get rid. There is no way that the club wants him as fit cover for Tiote’s inevitable suspension.

  4. Yes ! have to say the news he was off to Doncaster was a surprise.
    Had it been another PL side then ok, but would he not do better by playing with other teammates in the reserves ?
    I mean is the quality of football that much better at Doncaster ?
    Or could it be he has’nt lived up to expectations and could be on his way.
    More likely Ashley is getting his wages off the books, as we have a fairly decent sized group of midfielders.
    Ah! who the hell knows ?
    My fear is that our all but indispensable DM Tiote will either pick up an injury or collect too many cards, and we are left without a replacement.

  5. I saw this rumour on Teletext Wednesday sports gossip and it did make me wonder especially as he has been getting some rave reviews when he has stepped onto the pitch. I was fully expecting him to be getting some full time games in the near future.

    I can see the reasoning to let him have a loan period elsewhere if he wasn’t a full squad team member but so many of our promising young players seem to have been moved on to new clubs when this has happened, it does make me wonder if there is something else going on.

    Welbeck, Walker, Sturridge, Cleverley and the Arsenal one (Can’t dredge the name up from my ageing memory cells :) ) Are players who have benefitted from loan outs but the pressure on players to sign with the clubs they have been loaned to or to the likes of us. ie Sturridge can cause problems for the relevant loanees.

    I would hate to see us lose Gosling but the loan rumour can create little frissions of doubt in we supporters given recent past history. It’s not as though we have a huge squad.

  6. AP has stated many times that he wants to send players out on loan to develop their game. AP must feel the Donny coach & manager will help Gosling along. With Tiote being an African Cup player, getting Gosling games now may make him a better choice when recalled while Tiote is away.

    I’d like to see Ranger and Kadar round into mental and physical form & go out on loan. Ranger likely could help a bottom EPL team and Kadar could claim a starting spot in the Championship.

  7. Grumpy Old_Toon says:
    October 5, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    “Welbeck, Walker, Sturridge, Cleverley and the Arsenal one (Can’t dredge the name up from my ageing memory cells ) Are players who have benefitted from loan outs”

    Aaron Ramsey Grumpy?

  8. Serves him right for jumping ship in such an underhand way. He’d be getting regular first team football at EFC and probably knows it. Gotta love agents though, eh!

  9. Plus,
    the press have nowt to write about, so let’s try make something up about Newcastle, they’ll bite!

  10. “at Everton, who were under resourced”

    This stuff about “poor” under resourced Everton, Moyes never getting anything etc etc is actually something of a myth when you examine it closely. Even after the sale of that Arteta gadgie to Arsenal, they have still have a more valuable squad than ours.

  11. No thanks, glad we got shut. He thinks he’s something but he is nothing special. On another point, from what I witnessed on Saturday getting rid of Carroll must be the best bit of business in premier league history!

  12. The more I read this article the more enraged I become:

    “Is this the trouble with flying high in the Premier League, only yesterday in my Tim Krul blog did I highlight how we can afford to give these youngsters a chance given our league position. Yet we have a bright young English player who wants to go and play his trade in Doncaster?”

    1) There is literally no downside to us being 4th in the league at this moment in time! It is only positive news!!

    2) Are you seriously suggesting Pardew doesn’t play his strongest side because we don’t “need” the points enough?? We should neglect the team performance because one guy needs more experience?

  13. Seems like a good idea for him to go out on loan for a few months to get some match fitness under his belt. What is it at the moment with the negative blogs?? We are 4th and are looking good!!

  14. you should first examine the myth that gosling was ever rated highly. it was common knowledge to all us everton fans that he is nothing special. We were happy he has gone, just not about the way it happened. Certainly nowhere near the quality of rodwell or barkley. He is a decent player, but would struggle to start for any team in the prem.

    He only ever got a game for us because we were bare bones. If we didnt have so many injuries and no signings at the time he broke through, he would still be at us with barely any games.

    Can only have been a gamble by hughton to buy him, that was unlikely to pay off

  15. dm says:
    October 5, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    “you should first examine the myth that gosling was ever rated highly. it was common knowledge to all us everton fans that he is nothing special. We were happy he has gone, just not about the way it happened.”

    Aye, Rodwell was the more highly regarded one. I see that Everton fans are little different from Newcastle United ones though.

    Apparently our player of the season from last year, the Joey Barton show, is now shite now and we’re all glad he’s gone, would only be on the bench anyway etc etc. I was just looking at some of his stats and they were quite remarkable.

  16. Lads,
    he’s just coming back from a bad injury, he hasn’t even played yet. He’ll get his chance, he’s still a bairn.

  17. Carver said on total sport he`s the obvious choice to cover for Tiote when we lose him to ANC in Jan, reserve team action is not competitve enough. He will be back after his loan spell in Jan, that`s all there is to it!!

  18. He’s not in the team right now and 1st team football would do him good. As long as it’s a relatively short loan or we have the option to recall him then this is a good move for us and him imo.

  19. Looks a decent standard and with quite good awareness but I don’t think he should be in the first team picture without some considerable injuries. This is more to do with how strong our midfield is these days to be fair. Despite what almost everybody seems to think, I don’t think he is ahead of Guthrie in the pecking order and Pardew’s decisions certainly suggest that. It’s a shame we havn’t got this sort of strength in depth in the full-back and striker areas.

  20. workyticket says:
    October 5, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    ‘Even after the sale of that Arteta gadgie to Arsenal, they have still have a more valuable squad than ours.’

    Disagree there, we are above them now, granted for the first season in quite a while.

  21. To be fair, Gosling was never more than a squad player at Everton. We were aware that he was young and could possibly step up to become a first team regular, although this was never a certainty. The only reason Everton fans were naffed off about Goslings departure was the underhand way in which it was done. He had shaken hands on agreeing a new contract and then reneged on this, no doubt with his agents influence,and used a loophole to engineer a move to Newcastle for more money. He was always in Rodwells shadow and he won’t be missed. Most decent Evertonians, though, will wish him well if only for the goal that beat the Redshite in the FA Cup.
    Good to see the Toon doing well.
    Cheers.

  22. cocker,
    nice one.

    You were robbed at the weekend mate.
    Just have’te get ’em back at their place.
    ;)

  23. he’s been out of the game to long, stupid signing. get him pushed on. championship quality player. I’ve watched him in several games since he’s came back. he’s awful, can’t pass a ball and loses the ball more than nicky butt. makes sense to send him out on loan get some competitive games under his belt and if he doesn’t do it in the championship then it’s goodbye gosling.

    Sad but true

  24. CLiNT FLiCK

    Thanks, mate, you’re right, we’ll have to try and turn them over at Analfield. Let’s hope we don’t have another bent ref…

  25. what’s wrong with sending a young playing that can’t get a game out on loan to get first team football and get match fit after over a year out with injury?
    if that’s stupid I’ll have to get on the phone to all the top managers, actually scratch that, every manager, and tell them apparently they’re doing things wrong, and youngster progress better on the bench and in the reserves, that’s where the real experience is gained.

  26. I’m an Everton fan who’d echo the likes of Cocker’s sentiments on Gosling. He was a young squad/utility player who no one really knew where his best position was, but he was willing and able to go out and do a decent job wherever he was asked (from RB to RM to the odd game at CM, where he was well out of his depth).

    Most Blues did admit that he did have something, but it was hard to put your finger on. Perhaps it was that had a great knack for getting into goalscoring positions from midfield – the Derby goal was cracker but I remember in about only his 3rd appearance as a sub he could easily have got a hattrick but for luck and a class keeper.

    The manner of his departure left a sour taste, but I was surprised to see how his signing was trumpeted as such a coup by Newcastle at the time. A bargain, sure (although I imagine his wages must be pretty high) but given no one knows where he even plays it was never a signing worth shouting about. Add that to the fact that he’s clearly something of a rat.

    He really never got that much time on the pitch for Everton (that derby goal distorted things, I reckon, to most outsiders) and given his injury woes a spell in a lower league side where he can find out where his best position is would be best for all concerned.

    Good luck to Newcastle in the league this season.

  27. I for one think this is a great idea. Tiote will be missing for weeks, when playing in ANC, MONTHS IF HE GETS INJURED,perminant if he gets shot, you never quite know over there. gosling need accuracy, speed, fitness and most importantly experience. we can either live on past glory or get him out on loan and give him the goal, the edge and the ambition a year out might have

  28. Have left him lacking mental he Wong be as quick thinking as he was, after all those hours spent on the xbox he need a mental lift if any, call it rejuvinating the mind body and soles of his feet.

  29. I’m happy he’s off to get a few games under his belt. Not sure if it’s a fitness/injury thing but I’ve been surprised at how poor he’s looked in some games so far. Hopefully a spell with Donny can build fitness and confidence, as I still think he’s got something special that we haven’t really seen yet.

  30. I hope his other leg falls off. Walks out on a deal that would have seen Plymouth afforded a financial lifeline when they need it most. Shows up the very worst side of football. Besides his leg was broken when he was asking for a starting berth at Everton. Ridiculous. With Barkley and Rodwell coming through, they won’t miss him.

  31. Do the Everton fans seriously think they are going to keep Barkley, the higher funded phirana clubs and agents are already sniffing around your coracle. Wouldn’t be surprised if some silly money is offered (and accepted)for Rodwell as well.

    It’s a sham dame when you lose your youngsters, but sh!t happens.

  32. RZA hits the nail on the head, the wee gobshite turned his back on the club who gave him his starting place in the game. Disgusting attitude from a youngster and disgusting attitude from his agent for allowing it to happen (although with a 10-15% fee I’m not surprised…)

  33. “…he and Rodwell sent many a tongues wagging about how they were having a positive influence at Goodison.”

    No-one who actually saw Gosling playing for Everton wagged their tongue about him. His (twice deflected) goal against Liverpool aside he was pretty much a waste of space. His preferred tactic when he got the ball was head down, shut your eyes and head directly towards the opposition goal until someone takes it off you. Was never going to be a premier league player…he’ll be lucky to get a game at Doncaster.

  34. Calm down lads, he hasn’t gone for good, just for a loan while he gets match fit again.

    At Everton he was an ok player, never going to be great but not because he didn’t have the skill, he just looked scared of the ball at times.

    Hopefully he will get over that and maybe fulfill his potential, but I suspect he will drop down the leagues until he finds a level he is comfortable with.

    Gutted you got him for nothing though, thought we would get at least a couple of million for him.

  35. Grumpy Old-Toon; most Evertonian’s are realistic. We know it’s only really a case of when rather than if Barkley leaves. We just hope we get to see him do something at Everton before we’re forced to cash in. That’s just the way football is now.

    As for Gosling; he scored a few goals and did reasonably well when he came on the scene. I always felt he was flattering to deceive but hoped I would be proved wrong. We certainly had/have more promising youngsters.

    In the end we lost him on a free and it seemed a bit of a no-brainer for you guys. Some people cried about how underhand he was but in the end we shouldn’t be looking any further than the ineptitude of Everton for relying on a handshake.

  36. Dazbot, maybe some of us are old enough to remember when a mans word was his bond and a handshake was as good as his signature. I think Gosling will benefit from his loan spell but whether he ever becomes a regular Prem player, well, the jury’s out on that one.

  37. I agree Cocker but the club shouldn’t have been so naive especially when they were potentially talking about an extra £3-4m. I know the board have been accused of been behind the times for the last 20-odd years but surely someone there can see the state of modern football and knows that it’s not an industry ran on handshakes.

  38. Can I just say to all the Toffee fans, thanks for the comments, always nice to get a view from someone without NUFC tinted specs on.

  39. GS

    Ha, cowboy films, listen, mate, I’ve worked with a few cowboys over the years,, one bloke’s nickname was Roy Rogers. Took me about 3 years before I realised it wasn’t his real name!
    Dazbot, true, in hindsight it WAS naive to expect honesty these dats but I suppose you imagine everyone abides by the same code of conduct as you yourself does.

  40. As an Evertonian, I think Gosling would never be more than a aquad player, having said that it was disappointing to see him leave particularly with us having such a thin squad. But the reason I’m commenting is that Seamus Coleman, who is a year older than Gosling, went out on loan to the Championship with Blackpool and it did his career and confidence a great deal of good. If I were a Newcastle supporter I’d say him going on loan, maybe till January is the perfect solution based on Coleman’s experience. Maybe Gosling will prove me wrong and end up a decent player but I’d probably take £2-3m if a club came in for him, perhaps someone like Blackpool speaking of them.

  41. Dan Gosling was more than a potential squad player in my opinion.
    I think he has similar qualities to Leon Osman and while he may not be everyones cup of tea, he certainly has enough quality to hold down a regular place at most mid-table Prem clubs.
    I honestly believe the Toon will see the best out of Gosling towards the end of this season, but even more so next season.
    I wish him well at NUFC and hold no grudge over his move, truth be told EFC showed their inability to get the job done and thus missed out. Our loss is certainly your gain.

  42. Friendly Evertonian here folks, nice to see the toon riding high again. Always enjoy the banter up your way.

    Gosling reminds me of Osman in our side, although not as skilfull. He’s never going to set the world alight and shouldn’t be a regular starter, but he’s certainly a useful squad player.

  43. Seems like a lotta sour grapes going about, Everton fans pissed that Gosling left without them getting one thin dime
    and for a team where each penny counts, i can understand their frustration.
    Yeah Joey, suddenly turned into a useless player to those certain idiot NUFC fans, who hate any player who for whatever reason ends up leaving the club, grow up folks, its only business !

  44. Chuck says:
    October 7, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    “and for a team where each penny counts, i can understand their frustration.”

    As I written before Chuck, that’s a myth, there are alot of ’em about. ;-)

    I’m a sad bastard who like stats and such, and I know that even without that Spanish Arsenal gadgie, Arteta, they have a more valuable squad than we have and they should challenge for the lower European places in theoory. Honest!

  45. workyticket

    What are you on about mate? Everton are definitely skint! That is no myth. The only reason we have a ‘valuable’ squad is that Moyes has paid peanuts for the likes of Baines, Jags, Cahill and our academy has produced some exceptional talent. Our playing squad is our ONLY asset. We have no right to challenge for Europe really. But somehow Moyes keeps pulling rabbits out of the hat.

    If you like your stats then please look at our net spends. Its very boring but it certainly confirms that we are officially skint!

  46. Phil (efc) says:
    October 8, 2011 at 10:22 am

    “workyticket

    What are you on about mate? Everton are definitely skint! That is no myth. The only reason we have a ‘valuable’ squad is that Moyes has paid peanuts for the likes of Baines, Jags, Cahill and our academy has produced some exceptional talent. Our playing squad is our ONLY asset. We have no right to challenge for Europe really. But somehow Moyes keeps pulling rabbits out of the hat.”

    I’m not arguing with that Phil, and well done to Moyes. But if the wolf is at the door of Goodison Park as much as you claim, Everton do have assets in terms of a valuable squad, so they aren’t quite “skint”. Unless, that is, they want to have their cake and eat it.

  47. Yeah but if we sell our first team then what are we left with? A decent bit of money but probably relegation.

    Everton are just about getting by. Its not that the wolf is at the door. Its just that we have absolutely no chance of making any signings without selling first.

  48. Typical, the Everton lads come on here talking in peace, with a lot of common sense, and some blokes try and tell them the reality in there own back yard.

    Good luck to Everton, they are making a great go of things with a canny manager and on a tight budget, and have produced some great players over the years. Good luck for the rest of the season lads, but of course you need to finish below us !…

  49. dan ,the goose, gosling is a very good player and should develop in to a top class player , he gets in to scoring positons through his intlegence and and has a good level of all round skill give him time and he will come good.as with all good players that leave there currant club for pastures new it leaves the fans with bitter a bitter a taste .good luck dan u maybe a greedy bugger but at least you have another club with great fans…come on you blues

  50. So what? – He’s done nowt and won’t either. Sell him to Everton – he ain’t got the walk to match the talk. Sorry kid, nothing personal.

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