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Yanga-Mbiwa and Pieters eyed as Colo and Simpson replacements?

Posted on November 23rd, 2011 | 76 Comments |

Latest Newcastle United target?
Yanga-Mbiwa alleged latest target
Newcastle United allegedly turn their interest towards a 22 year-old Montpellier defender while both Simpson and Coloccini are yet to sign new contracts.

The last flurry of transfer speculation about Newcastle was mainly about attackers and, in the interests of balance, the press have been hitting us with speculation about defenders – either new or current – over the last few days.

The Daily Mail and The Sun, for example, have us interested in Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, which is easy for them to say. He’s 22, plays for Montpellier and is a naturalised Frenchman originally from the Central African Republic, which is a place I really like on account of it being exactly where it says it is. A sort of geographical onomatopoeia.

Anyway, Yanga-Mbiwa started out as a right-back and has more recently played as a centre-back, which is the sort of versatility managers like. He’s been at Montpellier for his entire footballing career and has also notched up 8 appearances for France’s under-21 team. Arsenal were linked with the player, who is contracted with Montpellier until June 2013, at the end of last season.

‘Transfermarkt’ values him at £5.3m but – based on nothing but the signs in my tea-leaves – I reckon that’s a bit high. He seems to fit the profile of the sort of player we buy, although that’s hardly an argument for the validity of the rumour, which, as ever, remains dubious.

Rumours about our interest in Erik Pieters seem to be continually on the boil too. In fact, our interest in the player is beyond the rumour stage as it seems we did indeed try to prise the player away from PSV in the summer. I tend to think that, as with Modibo Maiga, there’s a good chance we’ll continue to try and lure him to Newcastle in January, although whether or not we’ll be successful remains to be seen.

I think the club has good reason to be jittery about the defence because both Fabricio Coloccini and Danny Simpson are procrastinating over signing a new contract. The Sun carried a report on the weekend suggesting that Simpson’s agent has told him to press for more money, but Pardew voiced his stance on the matter as follows:

We’ve made Danny an offer which I think is a good offer, if I’m honest. Like everything it’s very difficult to understand value when you’re a young player. You see other players at other football clubs and you hear rumours, etc etc.

I think Danny should commit to the football club because he’s done terrifically well here and the one thing I do know about young players in the Premier League, you can get lost quite quickly.

He doesn’t want to do that, he’s found himself a nice berth in the club. He’s keeping out Davide Santon, who we’ve paid very good money for; he’s a new father, he’s doing particularly well.

Sometimes the grass isn’t always greener and I would advise him to get his contract done ASAP.

Danny needs to remember he’s playing and getting valuable experience in the best defence in the Premier League.

So it sounds like Pardew is getting a little impatient with matters. Simpson and his agent should know by now that ‘holding out for more money’ is generally a flawed tactic at Newcastle and players that try that often find themselves replaced by young, less expensive French-speakers in double quick time.

The last I heard on the Coloccini situation was that he wants to ensure that whatever deal he strikes up with Newcastle allows him the financial scope to continue funding an orphanage for 160 kids in Argentina, so hopefully something can be worked out with that.

NUFCBlog Author: Hugh de Payen I'm a baby-boomer of the punk rock persuasion, currently exiled in Somerset for crimes committed in a previous life where locals keep trying to poison me with something called 'scrumpy'. Hates sprouts, coat-hangers, Cilla Black, ornaments, Steven Seagull movies and 50 Cent (he's not worth 10). Hugh de Payen has written 634 articles on this blog.

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76 Responses

  1. I would imagine both will be on their way in the window, Ashley see’s everything as profit and loss. We will remain on this Merry Go Round until he has recouped all his money and then we might get sold-on if we’re lucky!

    I think a lot of us are starting to realise this is what the future holds.

    It will be impossible to keep any continuity, but if we stay up (which we should do!) Mad Mike will see it as a successful business plan!

    He’s not interested in football, he’s a Spurs fan after all!

  2. BelfrastToon>

    Admire the positivity lad! Jeezuz

    Simmo could well go soon enough if he doesn’t pull his head out his ar5e but Colo won’t go until 2013 at the earliest unless we get a mega money offer for him in next summer.

    His contract is until Summer 2013 and we can expect a serious bid to get him away from our club.

    Would be devastated if Colo left mind. We have managed to replace Enrique incredibly well but replacing Colo is not the same thing at all.

    IMO almost impossible to replace for us.

  3. I don’t understand Simpson’s reluctance to sign a new contract. He is a good right back but not exceptional. He is made to look better because of the collective performances of the defence but this is really down to the individual performances of Saylor, Colo and Krul.

    He should take not of Habib Beye who was once the darling of the Toon defence who thought the grass was greener elsewhere and is now with the mighty Doncaster.

    I didn’t know about Colo’s orphanage project but it seems typical of the man who appears to be an inspiration on and off the field. I hope the club and he can come to a mutually agreed settlement.

  4. GeordieDan says:
    BelfrastToon>

    Admire the positivity lad! Jeezuz

    Your right GeordieDan,

    what can i say I’m having a bad day!

  5. FFS Mike, the mans profile is worth big bucks to the club in advertising revenue with the charity thing alone.

    Never mind the fact that his presence on the field is the factor that gels the defence into a solid unit.

    IMO Simpson is replacable, Collo aint, pay him the extra cash Ash, he is worth it.

  6. Pardew is spot on with his comments on Simpson. After being passed around from pillar to post (on loan deals)he’s found a very good place to be. I’m sure he’s been offered a fair contract and he should settle down with his family – being serious he might be able to get an extra £5k a week somewhere else but is it really that important when you’ve already been offered £1million+ a year.

  7. so we get Yanga-Mbiwa and Pieters – great! but as replacements? howay, we’re already short of quality – we need them as reinforcements!

  8. nufc337 says: “the grass hasnt looked greener for owen,bassong,carroll” depends on their values of life – as far as I know they are on higher wages than they were with us!

  9. belfast,
    i think it’s been said MANY times on here that ashley ain’t a spuds fan mate.

    Football IS & always will be a merry-go-round of players in & out of different clubs, nowt new there.

    Simpson may have had his heed twisted by uncle Joey, if he wants out, bye then.

    Colo rules!

    4 more years, 4 more years!

  10. could we get a better FB than simpson? yes, that would be good football management & team improvement – we should regularly look at all our players in the same way.
    Bill Shankley always said 2 in 2 out every season – keeps the team at the top and all the players keen.
    At our stage of development we need 3 in 2 out each window just to get our squad upto PL quality.

  11. These rumours of new targets, on the back of those “Simmo should sign new contract – Pardwho, “Colo offered great deal” are not unconnected.

    Wouldnt surprise me if the club flies these flags every now and again in an effort to persuade players to sign. However as Super rightly says these players should be reinforcements not replacements

  12. ‘He should take not of Habib Beye who was once the darling of the Toon defence who thought the grass was greener elsewhere and is now with the mighty Doncaster.’

    Aye but isn’t he like 45 now. :???:

  13. n’zog made it to the mighty wigan, then the also-ran villa.
    dyer, lua lua, martins, bassong, bramble (shivers), & a whole host of others looking for first team football elsewhere.

    Good luck to ’em, after the door’s slammed shut on their ass!

    :)

  14. What is the point of patronising Danny Simpson in public like that? He’s held down a starting position for years now as one of the lowest paid players in the first team, his attitude has always been exemplary, yet Pardew is trying to paint a picture of him as some kind of arrogant young upstart who has an inflated idea of his own worth.

    If Newcastle do have “the best defence in the Premier League” as Pardew says, then some of that is down to Simpson himself and he deserves better than being pressured and patronised in public like that. It is unprofessional and indiscreet.

  15. Hugh
    Having praised your last contribution, gotta take you to task for this one.
    Your comments, (which i’m sure may have also influenced others on this particular blog)
    Could have come directly from the club, a very one sided and in fact lazy description of the reality.
    Are you aware that Simpson is by far the lowest paid starter on the side, even lower than many non starters.
    And that it’s the clubs intention to keep him that way, by lowballing him with a new contract.
    Hey we all sell ourselves in the marketplace, i’m sure yourself included, but for you to criticise the lad for asking for a decent contract, i dont get it.
    Well it’s something we probably won’t have to worry about, as BSA has shown an interest and he will probably get a decent contract at W/Ham.
    If we could do an exchange for young Tomkins, could be a good deal for all.
    Try and give a less one sided argument , next time !

    As for your onomatoopoeia problem with African names, perhaps a course in onomastics, would be of help ?

    As for the rest of you people, making comparisons with just about every player who has left the club, f**cking grow up, it’s a business, nothing personal.

  16. Chuck, to be fair, they may be a little irony in Hugh’s comments about the flawed tactics of holding out for more money at Newcastle, cheap French imports etc, though I may be wrong.

  17. Chuck says:

    “As for the rest of you people, making comparisons with just about every player who has left the club, f**cking grow up, it’s a business, nothing personal.

    Nee f**king offence taken :lol:

  18. As for Colocinni, it’s probably the last and most important contract of his career, and having the hammer, why not use it ?
    He may be testing the waters, i’m sure his agent has heard from plenty of clubs.
    Though he would i believe, prefer to stay, happy as Captain Colocinni, family settled, etc.
    But we are all aware of how Ashley, plays the brinks-manship game and how parsimonius he is.
    Which i believe is what may screw up any deal.
    The other problem is the length of any agreement, which many think was the problem with both the Nolan and Joey contracts.
    Personally i disagree, it’s my belief Pardew wanted them out of the club , due to being too influential in the dressing room and Ashley agreed, wanting their salaries off the books.
    You dont have to be Sherlock to figure that one!

  19. Worky i completely agree.

    part of the best defense in the prem. it seems to me that pardew sounded a bit desperate. if he plays his cards right Simpson should get a pay rise.

    he has been consistent since he signed for us and as a young lad the grass can only be greener im sure. after all the names mentioned Owen, Baye, dyer, martin and bramble all being alot older.

    does any one remeber Pistone, gasgoine, beardsley, Waddle, cole, ferdinand, fox, Saha, Given, Macdonald, Ginola, jon Dehl Tomasson, Diemar Hamann,Distin, Viana, Howey, Solano, O’Brian, Bellemy, Milner, Duff, Enrique, Parker?????

    the rule seems to be if they have enough time left to play they can become great players. the most recent exception Bassong who is struggling to get into the spurs first team is by no means an exception he is a good REENFORCEMENT in a good side and would no doubt get straight into any other prem side IMO.

    so this grass is greener on the other side opinion is good if you are good enough and young enough to fulfill your potential if you are over the hill or reaching it(baye, Owen, Kluivert) then what can you expect but old hay to chomp on?

    someone like simpson IMO has a bright future at any club and is probably one of the top 4 or 5 right backs in the country and there for should not be disrespected with the “lowest paid player” tag.

    i think the treatment of Simpson is not only disrespectful but in any other job would be nothing short of constructive dismissal.

    but pardews words “a good offer” is obviously piss poor compared to any other clubs. Simpson would probably be on more cash at wolves or wiggan. so with a young family i think he should leave for the cash and make sure he cash provide for he family for the next 18 years until his child becomes old enough to earn her own cash.
    at the end of the day Football isn’t everything there are more important things in life.(don’t get me started on poverty, Loas and the Philippines)

  20. Hugh
    If you had wanted to, you could have presented a non biased article, instead you gave us the party line only.
    And not only!

    You state, Simpson and his agent should know by now, “that holding out for more money” is generally a flawed tactic at Newcastle (should we go back to the days where a player was told, this is what you get, or pack your bag we just sold you?)
    and players who try it, often find themselves replaced by younger less expensive French speakers in double time.

    Even Pardew’s rap was less threatening in nature.

    As for not knowing, at least i’m aware he’s the lowest paid starter on the side and one of the lowest paid in the squad, how come you did’nt mention that ?

    And when we hear from the club mouthpieces he has been offered a good contract, in comparison to what ? and how much ?

  21. Stephen C says:

    November 23, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    “part of the best defense in the prem. it seems to me that pardew sounded a bit desperate. if he plays his cards right Simpson should get a pay rise.”

    Stephen, he cost the club £500,000 and his wages have been minimal in Premiership football terms. His current value is at least six or seven times that and it would certainly cost several million to replace him, with wages to match too. He has saved the club millions since he’s been here.

  22. Chuck, I happen to think that the club (being Ashley, Llambias etc.) decide how much they think a player is worth and won’t pay more than that.

    I also happen to think that the club’s system is to buy in cheaper talent from abroad, particularly France.

    It therefore follows that if Simpson pushes too hard with the contract negotiations he could find himself out of the club and replaced by the aforementioned type of player.

    Therefore I stand by what I said. I think that’s how the club operates.

    I never said that I thought it was right or wrong.

  23. Workey
    Nice of you to defend Hugh.
    But you know my style by now, “call em as i see em” !
    Not that unlike yourself i might add.

    Hugh
    I once got banned from this blog for criticising a Toonsy rap, please dont take it personal, i’m criticising only the content.
    It’s my opinion you are doing an excellent job here, just look at the controversy you brought about.

  24. It’s all par for the course lads.

    Normality when it comes to new contract deals etc. at every club, forever!

    Or,

    The sky’s gone out, the sky, the sky, the sky’s gone out!

    :)

  25. Colo has still got 2 years left, don’t he?
    Soooo,
    he just needs 2 more tagged on for good measure, or ol’ times sake.

  26. Worky i was going to mention that also but i heard he was signed for £300,000.

    either way he has payed back his purchase fee many many times over.

    why sell simpson which would cost £0.00 to replace simply because he now has to be worth £5 million at least but in doing so gain a higher wage bill. name a player who is worth £5-6 million who will join Newcastle for minimal wage? i’ve mentioned the word before but is that not spiteful? why hold back on a decent player who has not only given 150% each game, has only made 2 or 3 mistakes in his Newcastle career if you could call them that(Arron Lennon last season was more Lennon skill than Simpsons fault) but has redoubtably shown so much loyalty to a club and has stood by us, kept his mouth shut, has only tweeted twice that i know of and doesn’t make the headlines like most of the players in his price range.

    to be honest, Simpson has been more than a decent player for us but a great example of how to give more than 100% each game. his work rate is just as good as any on the pitch, santon did not work as hard as he did(blackburn away showed that) so why take a chance in losing simpson and gaining santon when you can have loyalty and consistent performances for the next 5 years.

    surely a player with so much to give should be shown respect not shown the door.

    but it just goes to show how many human qualities Pardew, Lamearse and Ashley have in the way of dealing with human life and how much they seem to rate these qualities in return.

  27. Aren’t we ‘cryin’ before we’re hurt’ here?

    Simpson has done a good job & should get his contract renewed. He’s does give 100%, no mistke, he can’t give more than that, cos it ain’t possible. If we wanna ‘go’ overproof in football parlance, i think 101% is fair enough as it may prove a point.

  28. Rumor has it, that we are interested in the Celtic skipper Brown ?
    What does this indicate ?
    Perhaps the Chelsea offer of around twenty big ones for Wor Chiek, has some truth to it ?
    Would you trade Tiote for Brown (plays the same role)Pieters and Sissokho/Yange-Mbiwa.
    Bet your ass i would and so would Ashley, in a heartbeat.
    A little over six and a half million apiece, should get em, viola ! three for one, sure.
    Could this be the plan, never smoke without fire, right ?

  29. Loads of critics basically repeating what we talked about 8 hours ago.

    Whats wrong with a settled team going about their business.

    I would like them both to stay. I think Simpson deserves more money. A young player will make mistakes, but overall he shows signs of being a very good player.

    Captain Colo, well it goes without saying, no-one wants him to go (Colo included) but if the price is right! Cashley, sorry Ashley will sell.

    CLiNT FLiCK says:

    belfast,
    i think it’s been said MANY times on here that ashley ain’t a spuds fan mate.

    Football IS & always will be a merry-go-round of players in & out of different clubs, nowt new there.

    I know CLiNT mate, but he’s still a ballbag (No-one will disagree with that, bar his Ma and himself possibly, oh and the Lambs Ass bloke and Pardew [big London crew that actually!]).

    And this Merry Go Rounds spinning so fast I’m waiting on Brian Cox throwing a couple of particles in!!

  30. chuck says:

    November 23, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    “Rumor has it, that we are interested in the Celtic skipper Brown ?
    What does this indicate ?”

    Chuck, you put far too much faith in our English media. Even the quality journals go all to pot when it comes to football, and will put out any old speculative shite. Even if it’s true, it will be like that monkey who allegedly typed a small section of Shakespeare’s “The Merchant of Venice”.

  31. 6 weeks til the transfer window & we’re getting wor knickers in a twist already! How many buys have we been linked with already? It must be in double figures!
    And what about selling, auctioning or raffling the periferal players, bums & stiffs?
    Smith & Perch must go! But we’d get nowt for them, Leeds might take Smudge if we paid him off (or half his wages).
    And if LuaLua is not needed then what about the other loaness – and 2 spare goalies
    That’s half a dozen – worth? say £3m+ and a big saving in wages.
    So – how about 6 out & 6 in ! Wouldn’t distabalise the squad but add to the depth.

  32. was that monkey who allegedly typed a small section of Shakespeare’s “The Merchant of Venice” from Hartlepool?

  33. CLINT
    Duh ! is it so difficult to figure ?
    We sell Tiote,
    We buy Brown to replace Tiote,
    We have left over cash, with me so far ?
    We buy Pieters, plus either Sissokho or Yange Mbiwa,
    the total comes out to around what we got for Tiote.
    There fore three for one, get it ?
    just joking !

  34. chuck,

    i totally get it mate.
    i was being facetious man.

    I was thunking, a butterfly poo’s in or around glasgee & tiote gans to chelsea.

    right back at ya’.

    :)

    ;)

  35. Supermac says:

    November 23, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    “was that monkey who allegedly typed a small section of Shakespeare’s “The Merchant of Venice” from Hartlepool?”

    Supermac, I’d be astounded if a human from Hartlepool could type any Shakespeare.

  36. WORKEY
    Really, i usually believe everything i read in the press, hmmm ! suppose i should take things with a grain or two of salt, in future.
    No ! just rattling cages, as the thought of loosing Tiote is unsettling to most fans, including myself.
    And again we have been associated with Brown in the not too far past.
    Then, who knows, it would be a logical step to have a ready made replacement for Chiek, if we have in fact received an enormous offer.
    But as you say, tis the season of mad rumors, in it ?

  37. Stephen C says:

    “why sell simpson which would cost £0.00 to replace simply because he now has to be worth £5 million at least but in doing so gain a higher wage bill……….
    i’ve mentioned the word before but is that not spiteful? ?”

    “kept his mouth shut, has only tweeted twice that i know of”

    I think you may have answered your own question SC :(

    Remember this is Derek “You havent got any idea how horrible we can be” the Twat Llambias.

  38. CLiNT FLiCK says:

    November 23, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    “worky/supermac,

    that monkey was from france, weren’t it?”

    Aye, it was in the time of Napoleon Bonaparte when we were at war with France. Allegedly, the fisherman of Hartlepool didn’t know what French people looked like, and they thought that the monkey may have been a Frenchman.

  39. workyticket says:

    “Aye, it was in the time of Napoleon Bonaparte when we were at war with France. Allegedly, the fisherman of Hartlepool didn’t know what French people looked like, and they thought that the monkey may have been a Frenchman”

    That’s the official line WT but the locals swear they thought he was a mackem :)

  40. Was it written in Spanish, cause i believe the monkey was jibbering in Spanish, or was that French, well i suppose it did’nt really matter they hung the poor barsteward anyway.

    Workey
    we would all be astounded to find there was anyone human, or simian for that matter, in Hartlepool who could type period !

  41. chuck,

    £20m ain’t no massive offer for Tiote, imv.
    & there’s no way in hell that brown could fill his shoes.

    Regardless of what we payed for him, if ac is worth £35m, it’s a given that Cheik is worth more, again, imv.

  42. Toon supporters are a bit shellshocked it seems, leading to an odd tendency to rationalize the club’s poor behavior, even pre-emptively.

    Grass-is-greener: actually, Bassong is a bad example. He left us to join a club that has since made the qualifying round of the CL. (Not to mention we got a HEFTY fee for him.) He only has trouble getting into that team because he has four CBs ahead of him who would have a good chance of starting here: Dawson, Kaboul, King and Gallas.

    As for selling Tiote: go ahead and convince yourself that it’s a good idea to sell the man many call the best CDM in the PL for an amount you can use to get three completely unproven players in the PL, a couple of whom will cost more than wor Cheick.

  43. andy @52 the thing is. he hasnt tweeted about newcastle when he did it was about Djeko.

    it seems that not only are they disrespecting simpson but humiliating him as well.

    i think Simpson said Djeko wasn’t worth the cash or his wage. so no doubt Simpson will be feeling stupid and humiliated and know his pride might take him elsewhere.

    and to be honest i don’t blame him to be honest the three wise men seem intent on alienating everyone at the club including the players.

  44. And the point is Simpson simply wants to be paid the going rate. Is he a starting RB in the PL or not? I can certainly see him being irritated over the club stalling when they, presumably, recently gave Shola another raise.

  45. Stephen C says:

    “andy @52 the thing is. he hasnt tweeted about newcastle when he did it was about Djeko”

    Then you probably missed the ones supporting Joey B and Nolan ? Seem to recall he tweeted after JB was put on the transfer list/sold and similarly when Nolan left.

    It probably goes down in Delbias’s little black book :)

  46. Is the club stalling over Simpson’s contract, or is it the other way round?
    Did Shola get a raise?

    This is normal contract negs, isn’t it?

    Get a grip(e) lads.

  47. @ 64 i missed those mate i was in the USA from may 14th to august 3rd

    so missed the last two games of the season and the pre-season. if thats the case then it looks like the little black book. Lamesarse likes those 7 deadly sins doesn’t he.

    shame he hasn’t read the the book all the way through to the parts that preach forgiveness.

    i will have to have a word with my mate Dev to get that poker extra hot for Lamearses arrival.

  48. tunyc says:

    November 23, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    “Toon supporters are a bit shellshocked it seems, leading to an odd tendency to rationalize the club’s poor behavior, even pre-emptively.”

    People all over the world have done that throughout history tunyc. Germans used to rationalise Hitler’s poor behaviour, Russians used to rationalise Stalin’s poor behaviour, the Chinese used to rationalise Mao’s poor behaviour, battered wives have rationalised their husband’s poor behaviour, and it’s the same with Geordies and Ashley.

  49. I was just wandering why players don’t get groomed for coaching roles anymore? Surely it would be worth keeping the likes of Collocini on the books even after his playing days are over. He’s a good defender, a good leader and, i presume, a good trainer. It seems clubs would rather ship these players out for a few quid come their twilight and don’t seem to realise their experience would be priceless to players coming in/through. Just a thought. And like someone said earlier his work with that Argentinian orphanage would only be good for the clubs image.

  50. why would a Man City £20 Million bid for Tiote be “audacious”? Unwelcome yes, small change for city yes, good football sense yes – but “audacious”? P!ss off city.

  51. I signed Yanga Mbiwa for Newcastle on football manager a few days before I heard about this rumour. He’s a good all round defender and football manager never lies!

  52. They shdn’t dare live this beautiful family cos when they live their career is over.they shd take example from habib beye,carol,owen,bassong their careers died when they left.

  53. Very good points Worky….that’s what people do.
    Same in England and Europe right now-the Banking scam leading to Austerity and pressing forwards with a Globalist Technocratic Dictatorship.

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