Pardew once again talks about “Ashley’s Budget”

Alan Pardew interview about the Newcastle United transfer budget.

Pardew has clarity on the budget

Newcastle United manager Alan Pardew has once again being talking about the club’s budget.

Alan Pardew has gone on record again to say that he understands the budget he’s operating under at Newcastle. In an interview which broadly echoes one he made earlier this week Pardew said:

I do think that the clarity of the budget is important. Some fans may not be entirely happy with the amount we have to spend, but at least they know the whole picture.

When you look at the world economy and where football is at the moment, we are seeing some really tough times. We have seen examples of Portsmouth and Rangers in Scotland that show if you over-stretch, you are going to find yourself in serious trouble and you are putting the club’s future at risk.

At Newcastle, we have got a good foundation and a good financial model, and now the question is whether we can bring success within that model.

That’s the challenge that I accepted when I joined the club, and so far we are doing well and can hopefully continue to grow as we go along.

So what is that budget? Well, Pardew doesn’t say and I think that’s because there isn’t a specific figure. Pardew has frequently stressed that we will lose some players in order to pay for others – that’s our model now – and that what we have to spend in the summer will depend upon what we receive from players we sell.

On the surface it seems like we should have some ‘credit’ left anyway. Since the start of 2011 we’ve sold Carroll, Routledge, Nolan and Enrique, bringing in £43m, and we’ve bought Santon, Cabaye, Benny, Elliot and Cisse at a cost of £23m (and Abeid, Obertan, Marveuax and Ba were ‘free’), which would seem to indicate that there’s £20m left somewhere. However that doesn’t take into account agents’ fees and such, and it’s worth bearing in mind that I’ve arbitrarily chosen the start of the 2011 to begin my calculations.

The way I’m presuming Newcastle United operate in terms of selling players is that they’ll make buying clubs pay top-dollar for players or simply won’t sell them, but I suspect if top dollar is offered then the player will be ‘strongly encouraged’ to leave.

This process of buying in younger, relatively-unknown players from the ‘cheaper’ foreign leagues and then selling (some of) them on to bigger clubs in the more ‘expensive’ leagues, such as the Premier League, is fine as far as it goes. It relies heavily on having a top-quality scouting network, which we appear to have under the leadership of Graham Carr, but it’s a bit much to expect them to uncover Ben Arfas or Yohan Cabayes all the time. There will be duds.

So, as to the summer, it’s anyone’s guess as to which players we’ll receive top-dollar offers for. Press rumours would indicate that Krul, Tiote and Ba are all in the frame. There has also been talk of interest in Guthrie and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Cabaye, Benny and even Cisse have attracted enough attention to warrant interest from somewhere.

I would hope there’s a balance somewhere and that if we get top-dollar offers for a large number of players it wouldn’t turn into a mass exodus and leave the scouting network with an unreasonable job of replacing them all.

The club’s transfer policy appears to have worked so far. Let’s hope it continues to do so.

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53 Responses to “Pardew once again talks about “Ashley’s Budget””

  1. 1
    avatar ed says:

    and there is the tax from the 43 million too

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    avatar Toon69 says:

    You’re also forgetting the new contracts given to Tiote & HBA since receiving that £35m for Carroll, so you need to take that of your supposed £23m left over…..

    Plus I’m not like the suggestion you’ve just made, which will most likely be picked by every scumbag crap-loid out there that we need to sell players to buy… funny how our finances say the opposite, in that we only sell if we have no other choice, but we’ve still brought in & still had a £32.6 profit after player sales… so not sure why you’ve decided to throw that baby into the melting pot if not to get a reaction from the fans & press alike… :(

  3. 3
    avatar Worjordi says:

    I think we need to stay real. if a mega “Carroll-esque” bid comes in for one of players then the Club will weigh it up and if they already have a replacement lined up will sell. Its business. However, if we were to make CL I believe we will kick on and improve the squad and find cover for the ACON players and beef up the squad in general, The Academy looks like it is being revamped and we will eventually see younger players come through. I think we have a good base to build on next season ….whatever position we finish. Its been a great season and if the lads carry on playing like they have been we’ll be in Europe next season and i for one will look forward to a possible return to the likes of the San Siro….What a trip that was.
    3-0 to the lads on Saturday
    Keep the Faith – HWTL

  4. 4
    avatar Worjordi says:

    Oh ….. and I never saw a Mackem in Milan. HWTL

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    Toon69, I didn’t necessarily say we had to sell anyone. In fact I said I thought we might have money left over.

    But the way I read the club’s transfer policy is that it must be self-funding over time. Pardew’s said as much himself.

  6. 6
    avatar nzedtoonman says:

    Can anyone tell me why we are so infatuated with the euro kids , and NOT english anymore , I know we need to bring these french / senegalese/ dutch in to enhance the skill levels ,
    However I remember a time when we were regarded as remarkable as we only had about 3 foreigners and the rest british ,
    Now its more like 3 UK’ers the rest foreign ..

    Whats the quotas ruling going to be ? and are we preventing academy hopefuls pulling on the black and whites ?……

    KTF Always St James……!!!

  7. 7
    avatar ToonDarnSarf says:

    There are so many poor articles like this on the web. Why do you even bother? Your calculations show a total lack of understanding a about how a modern football club is run. As well as paying a transfer fee, there’s agent fees, signing on fees and wages. All of these have to be paid for.

    Don’t waste your (or our) time writing articles with such drivel…

  8. 8
    avatar MonkeySan says:

    @ToonDarnSarf

    “Don’t waste your (or our) time writing articles with such drivel…”

    Dont bother reading it then? Nobody forcing you….

    I’d like to think we were in the position that we dont NEED to sell anyone, but also if a player has his “head turned” (eg Enrique joining a “top-6 club”) then I wouldnt go out of my way to keep them provided the right money is paid – we should have a team that wants to play for us, not just that we are the best available option/wage at the time.

  9. 9

    ToonDarnSarf says:Why do you even bother?

    I often wonder that myself.

  10. 10
    avatar phisix says:

    @GS from the previous thread:

    No can do really as I am the only Toon supporter down here within my friends group and no one would go to a game with me if its Newcastle, my friend was only going to go to the Chelsea game as he’s a big time Chelsea fan.

    I had to blag my Brother to go to to the Newcastle vs Plymouth FA cup game a few seasons back.

  11. 11
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    Stephen,

    you out there mate?

    I’m off now for a while but i’ll be back on the neet.

    Did you offer a chance of meeting up for the chelsea game the other day?

    Drop us a line bro’.

    Later.

    ;)

  12. 12
    avatar workyticket says:

    ToonDarnSarf says:
    April 19, 2012 at 10:02 am

    “There are so many poor articles like this on the web. Why do you even bother? Your calculations show a total lack of understanding a about how a modern football club is run. As well as paying a transfer fee, there’s agent fees, signing on fees and wages. All of these have to be paid for.

    Don’t waste your (or our) time writing articles with such drivel…”

    ToonDarnSarf, If you’d read the club’s accounts, which we published on here incidentally, you would notice that even with agent fees, signing on fees etc, there’s a very large surplus in player trading in the club’s accounts which has been placed in the club’s reserves. Stuff such as wage costs, amortisation etc should also be covered by other streams of revenue such as match day, merchandising, sponsorship etc, which you’ll find that the club isn’t doing so well at and needs to improve unless we are to be just a “selling club” for larger teams such as Liverpool.

  13. 13
    avatar workyticket says:

    nzedtoonman says:
    April 19, 2012 at 9:47 am

    “Can anyone tell me why we are so infatuated with the euro kids , and NOT english anymore , I know we need to bring these french / senegalese/ dutch in to enhance the skill levels ,”

    The likes of Cabaye, Ba, Tiote etc aren’t bairns, just 26 or under. They are used to lower wages in the French league. As far as the real bairns are concerned, the emphasis on the academy is very much on qualifying for the recent “Elite Player Performance Plan,” which, amongst other things, will allow top clubs to sign under 16s from further field than a 90 minute radius of the club.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/20/football-league-controversial-overhaul-academies

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    avatar UTD111 says:

    ToonDarnSarf says:
    April 19, 2012 at 10:02 am
    There are so many poor articles like this on the web. Why do you even bother? Your calculations show a total lack of understanding a about how a modern football club is run. As well as paying a transfer fee, there’s agent fees, signing on fees and wages. All of these have to be paid for.

    Don’t waste your (or our) time writing articles with such drivel…
    _______________________________________________

    There are so many poor comments like this on the web. Why do we even bother?

    Your comment shows a total lack of understanding about how a modern football club is run. As well as paying a transfer fee, there’s agent fees, signing on fees and wages. All of these have to be paid for.

    Don’t waste your (or our) time commenting on articles with such drivel…

  15. 15
    avatar UTD111 says:

    Love the claim by Pards that “fans know the full picture”

    That’ll be the day with this lot!!!

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    avatar workyticket says:

    UTD111 says:
    April 19, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    “Love the claim by Pards that “fans know the full picture”

    That’ll be the day with this lot!!!”

    I think he means the picture they’ve painted for us, UTD111.

  17. 17

    I’m not even sure what the full picture he’s painted is! I only ‘gather’ things are as I said in the article.

  18. 18
    avatar UTD111 says:

    Worky @16

    On the subject of pictures…..This is the best piccie I’ve seen today mate!

    http://www.utd111.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/drogba.jpg

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    avatar UTD111 says:

    Hugh de Payen says:
    April 19, 2012 at 4:23 pm
    I’m not even sure what the full picture he’s painted is! I only ‘gather’ things are as I said in the article.
    _____________________________________________

    It’s all done with smoke, mirrors and cheap T-shirts Hugh :)

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    Cheap T-shirts are a false economy I’ve decided. I’m firmly in the Rohan camp for my stuff.

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    avatar chuck says:

    Pard’s ?
    Little does he know, he knows as little as we know.
    I wonder sometimes reading his confusing sound bites, if he is actually in the loop.
    Though credit to the guy, he can present a headscratching series of confusing statements, that sound as if theres some meaning, but on examination are in fact, just blah, blah.

    Pardew sez
    the clarity of the budget is important, some fans may not be entirely happy with the amount we have to spend,
    But at least they know the entire picture……

    Errrmmm! you gonna tell us what the amount is, so as to have some clarity and understand the entire picture, or do we guess ?

  22. 22
    avatar AndyMac says:

    “ToonDarnSarf says:

    There are so many poor articles like this on the web”

    If you bothered your arse to read the article you might not look like such a twat. If you want pure drivel I’d hop over to Toonsy’s site if I were you. There you get factually incorrect tosh as well as drivel :)

    http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2012/04/19/who-is-inand-who-is-out-at-nufc/

    “The easy ones to start with are the ones that are out of contract in the summer. Those being Danny Guthrie and Danny Simpson”

    Simpsons contract runs until June 2013, doesnt take too much to find that stuff out now does it :lol:

  23. 23
    avatar UTD111 says:

    Chuck

    I always read your posts from cover to cover. I’m getting the impression you’re not Alan Pardew’s No1 fan?

    8)

  24. 24
    avatar UTD111 says:

    Blimey!

    A lad can’t even get his hair cut in peace these days!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5RaOJKZoiQ

    Love the little lad who kept calling him “Cissy” – mackem, obviously :)

  25. 25
    avatar GS says:

    AndyMac @22:

    I don’t get why some people have their knickers in a twist about Simpson leaving this summer either. I have also seen, on other sites, worry about Gosling leaving when he has 2 years left and we don’t even know if he is any good or not.

    As far as I know, the only one out of contract is Guthrie. Are people getting confused because they are all called Danny???

    My take on the Chelsea – Barca match is that Raul Mereiles needs a new barber. Why would someone get a haircut that makes them look like they have alopecia.

  26. 26
    avatar UTD111 says:

    On the subject of Chelsea – does anybody else think David Luiz looks like Jonathan Creek?

  27. 27
    avatar chuck says:

    So, when the new ruling on home grown players becomes effective, does that rule out youngsters, (although foreign nationals), but who have been with the club for a number of seasons, from being counted as home grown?
    UEFA & FIFA, two corrupt organizations, one of which’s main interest is forcing the Brasilian government to allow it’s (FIFA) beer sponsors to sell beer at the involved stadiums (presently banned)like i say it’s about money!
    Yeah now that the obvious need for the use of technology is apparent to everyone and that football lags behind most major proffessional athletic’s, we have quotas of home grown players and countries blacmailed into selling beer at grounds, where it was previously banned.
    Rather than introducing modern technology to a game that has become more difficult to referee.
    It will be interesting to watch what happens, when the new squad sizes and financial limits come into effect, the reaction’ of our increasinly oligarchial ownership,
    who may not agree with the rulings of UEFA.
    Which appear to bring some kind of financial curbs on spending, but are no more than the appearance of doing something positive, possibly reducing the amounts EPL sides can spend,being the wealthiest league.
    To use financial restraints, in order to level the playing field with other leagues.
    I have serious doubts that telling oligarchs how to manage their money is a no starter.
    Better to concentrate on goal line and other technological, that can improve the decisions made by officials.

  28. 28
    avatar chuck says:

    UTD111
    I’ll take that as a compliment, thanks !
    And no not a fan of AP.

  29. 29
    avatar chuck says:

    Watched the Chelsea game yesterday and for all those wearing those rose colored glasses, it reminded me of our recent game against Swansea, apart from the fact Chelsea had more than four shots on goal for the entire game.
    Of course Cheseas game plan was to obviously give seventy odd minutes of possession to Barca, yeah right!
    Anyone believe Chelsea can win away to Barsa ?
    Lotta folk betting on an all Spanish, final.

  30. 30
    avatar UTD111 says:

    As I said on Twitter just this morning – possession means booger all if you’re tippy tappying around in your own half – that’s Swansea.

    But Barca were totally different, they were tippy-tapping in triangles all over the pitch, and the poorly-supported (gaps at wembley) London side couldn’t get the ball off them.

    Drogba was a disgrace.

    Barcelona will thump them in the second leg.

    I still stand by my view that the only stats which matter are – who scored the most goals, who has the most points, the final league table and how much money has been robbed from the NHS to pay for London’s 6 week Olympic extravaganza?

  31. 31
    avatar GS says:

    I don’t think Chelsea have much chance but the result was good for us as they will be physically and mentally exhausted for the last few league games.

    We’re under very little pressure but I still can’t see us getting 4th. If we beat Stoke I might begin to dream.

    My disdain for Rednapp is almost as great as AndyMac an Chuck’s for Pardew. I would love to wipe the smirk off ‘Arry’s mug.

    Plus, Champion’s League money would mean we close the gap with Spurs in terms of revenue. I think they, and not Liverpool, are the team we need to knock off to be thought of as a Top 6 team.

  32. 32
    avatar UTD111 says:

    I don’t fancy 4th either – got me eye on 3rd :)

  33. 33
    avatar GS says:

    My problem if Pardew leaves or is sacked is who could we get?

    A lot of the European managers (Mourinho apart) have not lived up to expectations – Ramos, Benetez, Sven, Jol, Scolari, Vilas Boas, even Ancelotti and Mancini to some extent.

    Of the currently successful managers who would come here?

    We might be left with a JFK situation again or taking a flyer on Lee Clark.

    Be careful what you wish for.

  34. 34
    avatar Stephen C says:

    To be honest it would be nice to just keep players and spend the cash we acheive. This year is a great opportunity to keep a great performing team together and grow with cash not only from our higher league position and our chance of Europe. It’s a known fact the winner of the Europa league gets a huge amount less than a team in the champions league group stages.

    Pardew has already confirmed that there are two different transfer budgets one for Europa league and one for champions league.

    IMO WE only need 3 or 4 players as back up to compete. We have a decent squad and not forgetting we have quality key players all returning for next season. Adding marvaux, best, samiobi and Steven Taylor. Not forgetting we have young players coming through who are very capable of the step up. Tavernia and Ferguson to name just two.

    Wouldn’t it be better to give this squad least one full season to gel and learn from each other instead of trying to keep things fresh. I would love to see the whole team together for next season knowing we had good cover on the bench.

  35. 35
    avatar AndyMac says:

    GS says:

    “AndyMac @22:

    I don’t get why some people have their knickers in a twist about Simpson leaving this summer either……As far as I know, the only one out of contract is Guthrie. Are people getting confused because they are all called Danny???”

    Very simplistic way of looking at this GS.

    Its just not possible that seasoned bloggers, in this age of internet information, can possibly be getting their facts wrong simply because both players share the same christian name ?

    Mind you it is Toonsy :lol:

  36. 36
    avatar UTD111 says:

    Is a “seasoned blogger” one that’s had salt and pepper added before roasting slowly?? :)

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    avatar AndyMac says:

    UTD111 says:

    “As I said on Twitter just this morning – possession means booger all if you’re tippy tappying around in your own half – that’s Swansea.

    But Barca were totally different, they were tippy-tapping in triangles all over the pitch, and the poorly-supported (gaps at wembley) London side couldn’t get the ball off them”

    Yet both teams scored a big fat zero UTD ?

    Both Barca and Swansea play the way they hope will provide them with success. Unfortunately it requires an antidote to their system, from teams less able to match them on the field, which isnt always pretty.

    Basically if you fanny about in your half or their half, if the “goals for” column remains at 0, it’s irrelevant.

  38. 38
    avatar UTD111 says:

    They hit the woodwork twice and had 24 attempts on goal in comparison to Chelsea’s 1

    OMG!! I’m turning into statto LOL!

    Still think Chelski will be stuffed next week

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    avatar mcgarrity says:

    Jonathan creek hahaha. Brilliant.
    Anyway I actually don’t think one or two of our players going for astronomical fees this summer would necessarily be a bad thing. We could use the however many million to expand the scouting network to unearth more gems from other leagues like in south america, mexico, etc. We could sign god knows how many great young prospects which would give our squad a bit more depth to help us for the duration of the premier league and the europa league/champions league whichever were in. And not to mention put some into squad development which can only be a benefit to us in the coming years because the stars of the future have to start somewhere. None of the stars of today just rolled up out of the blue, they were a result of well funded squad and youth development programmes

  40. 40
    avatar Stephen C says:

    i met statto a few weeks back.

    very shy, timid guy.

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    avatar AndyMac says:

    Stephen C says:

    “IMO WE only need 3 or 4 players as back up to compete.”

    We’ve been lucky this season that we were pretty soon out of both Cup Competitions (Thanks AP) which meant a lot less drain on our very limited resources. Any European campaign next season will stretch this limited squad even further.

    The fact is 3 or 4 players will be leaving and unless they’re replaced by quality we’ll struggle whichever competition we’re in, which could also affect our league programme next season.

  42. 42
    avatar AndyMac says:

    mcgarrity says:
    “Anyway I actually don’t think one or two of our players going for astronomical fees this summer would necessarily be a bad thing. We could use the however many million to expand the scouting network to unearth more gems from other leagues like in south america, mexico, etc.”

    Rome wasnt built in a day Mr McGarrity. If we sold Cheikh Tiote and Tim Krul at the end of this season, we couldnt guarantee ready made replacements who would forge bonds with the existing players and fit in the straight away with the rest of their colleagues.

    This squad needs an injection of 4 or 5 quality players (note not high priced players) who’ll fit into the squad and contribute almost immediately. Not an easy task but then again Carr probably isnt earning peanuts.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    mcgarrity says:
    April 19, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    “Anyway I actually don’t think one or two of our players going for astronomical fees this summer would necessarily be a bad thing. We could use the however many million to expand the scouting network to unearth more gems from other leagues like in south america, mexico, etc.”

    Aye, just like the club we have been modelled on, a North East club who play in black and white called Udinese. Since the nineties, they have built up an extensive worldwide scouting network, and their owner has also bought Granada in Spain. They have sold on some of the world’s top players, most recently, Alex Sanchez, a £30 million+ number 9 to Barcelona, and Gokhan Inler to Napoli. They have scraped into the Champions League, been in the UEFA Cup etc, but have never won a major trophy.

  44. 44
    avatar Paul in Hollywood says:

    Excellent article Hugh full of insight, subtlety and astute economic understanding. Haven’t got a clue what ToonDarnStupid is on about. Kept me gripped, not least with the fine stream of comments that followed. Please keep it up mate!

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    avatar mcgarrity says:

    Udinese are a great example of what I’m saying. I remember watching italian football on channel 4 when I were like 9 or 10 and I loved it. Udinese weren’t big hitters like they are now but fortunately we are in a fantastic position to build and progress. With a worldwide scouting network and some magnificent youth talent there’s no reason we can maintain the resources to keep challenging the top sides in the league and next season maybe even europe. I genuinely think free up assets by selling someone at a high price and graham carr will find about 4 or 5 players just as good for a fraction of the proce to give us depth and a larger squad for europe. Because I for one would rather have two very good players who can be back up for each other if one is injured than have an amazing player and nobody to replace them

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    avatar Stephen C says:

    im a true believer in UNITY. if we continue to sell players you also sell “friends”

    playing against a friend can be divisive and IMO next season the team needs to be together and work together.

    i still think the extra unity an extra season will give, more than makes up for the depth.

    but 3-4 players who can sit and wait for their opportunity, like Tavernia and ferguson and Vuckic will work wonders on the overall outlook of the team.

    i think we need to forget about big spending and big selling.

    we have a stronger nucleus than we have had in a long time. let us just reflect on the bonds that are present and as fans not get too eager to spend.

    what has spending ever proven? Man u won the league last season spending next to nothing. we can tweak and buy cover but let us not lose a team that works well and works for each other and will work even harder next season as their bonds grow.

    if we continue the way we have it wont be long before we are in the same situation we were in when we went down.

    a team full of individuals who play for themselves and for their own futures.

    having a team of friends works so lets not break it up and rock the boat. the mentality that Mike and Lamearse have, has worked but lets not tempt fate. and lets not mess when we dont need too.

    3 or 4 half decent players who can come in for cover will be ideal if it means we dont lose players to big rivals.

    after all, we are talking about selling players for large quantities of cash to our main rivals. which in my opinion is a foolish move and will only widen the gap between us and the top 4 even more so.

    its not about selling players its about giving away our strengths to our rivals and giving them the power to defeat us.

    why even contemplate this or take the risk.

    after all the greatest and easiest way to victory over a group of people is to divide and conquer.

    and in footballing terms that means “if you cant play against a opposing player BUY HIM”

    so why bother? wouldn’t it be better keeping what we have a strengthen slightly? rather than sell our strengths make our rivals stronger and hope the replacements are double the strength of what we have sold.

    if we sell a player like Tiote where are we going to get a player from who is stronger and skillful enough to combat the strengths he has.

    forget selling 3 or 4 for huge amounts sell 8 or 9 for smaller amounts. i.e. smiths, xiscos etc and lets spends on replacing those.

    after all we seem to have hald a squad not even playing. why have a huge quad of players warming the reserves when we can have a smaller squad fighting for a place.

    i would sooner have a top class first 18 than an above average first 25.

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    avatar mcgarrity says:

    All I’m saying is that when we sold carroll it was bit of a downer for the season but fast forward 16 months and here we are firmly in the top half of the league on the cusp of european qualification and we haven’t looked back. If we were to sell a player who we signed for literally buttons (eg tiote, ba) and got a carroll-esque amount for them then that gives us the revenue to build a bigger squad with more depth and hopefully players who can slot in there with minimal effort. The international contingent of the squad will surely aid this process and put any new signings at ease. The way I see it is that it gives us a great opportunoity to gain revenue from european competition and also build at the same time to help secure long term competitiveness.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    mcgarrity says:
    April 19, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    “Udinese are a great example of what I’m saying.”

    But as I wrote, mcgarrity, they’ve never won a major trophy. They’ve just been the bridesmaids, never the brides, a bit like we were in the ‘nineties and the early noughties. They are a shop window for the big Italian clubs and those further afield.

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    avatar mcgarrity says:

    Thing is though to build a larger squad that may be the way to go. With our small squad our players will get exhausted from playing league, cups and europe. We will lose momentum and slip down the league. Look at stoke. Decent start, got tired from fixture congestion through having too small a squad, now slipped down to the bottom half. I don’t want that happening after such a great season.

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    avatar Stephen C says:

    thats what i was trying to get at in my post

    why strengthen another team at the weakening of your own?

    it doesnt make sense. it doesnt even make financial sens to asset strip a working business at the gain of your rivals.

    would mike sell 60% of his logos like no fear and slazenger for a profit in hope another struggling brand name came along?

    i doubt he would because he could not guarantee how that new purchase would perform. and if you knew a brand you had sold would outperform something you replaced that brand with, in the long term would only pave the way for a stronger more potent rival.

    why strengthen when you can destroy and weaken?

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    avatar Stephen C says:

    mcgarity, you could always look at Birmingham.

    had a slow start due to europe but came back fighting.

    i remember a few season ago we were in the intertoto cup.
    we had played a good 4 or 5 games before the season started and when the season started were were on fire when other teams were just starting to warm.

    so it can go three ways, i think we have a strong enough squad now to play a top team in the league and europe and play a slightly changed side in the cups.

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    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    Stephen,

    some very good points mate, very well put.

    ;)

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    avatar tunyc says:

    To GS @ 33: there’s only one option for me.

    Gus Poyet.

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