Newcastle ‘Player of the Season’ Vote: 2) Midfielders and Forwards

NUFC midfielders and forwards.

Attack, attack, attack!

Following on from my piece on the contributions of our defenders and utilty players this season, let’s carry on with our assessment of Newcastle’s players with a view to deciding who is our Player of the season. I’ll be moving on the engine room now, and later the forwards. There are undoubtedly a few worthy recipients here!

Midfield:

Cheik Tiote

Cheick Tiote. The guy is a beast and I mean that in the most complimentary way possible.

Never shirks a tackle, always harrying, jostling, ball winning and not without skill. The whole ‘The refs have his card marked’ thing gets right on me proverbials, mostly because with players like Cheik they are saying ‘if you tackle anyone, we’re gonna yellow card you.’ Tiote has no truck with this and just carries on regardless. For all his yellows, loads of them are for being Cheik Tiote. Away to Chelsea, 3/4 minutes in, yellow card for brushing past someone. Did it change his play? No, is the one word answer.

He can be guilty of holding on to the ball a bit sometimes and getting caught in possession, but it’s rare. Most of the time he just does what is necessary, breaks up play, destroys play, if you will, takes one for the team picks himself up, brushes himself down and just gets on with it.

He’s the classic ‘pocket battleship’ with a drive and athleticism that has made Newcastle an absolute ‘mare to play against. We really felt it when he went off to the African Cup of Nations, he was missed. You’d think the guy had been a Premier League player from birth. Get him on a long contract… Oh! He is already!

Jonas Gutierrez

Jonas Gutierrez. Jonas absolutely will not stop! He has played most games this season he emanates work ethic and has popped up with a few class goals too. Another one that is seemingly happy to play where asked, whether left back, wing, in the middle, he’s been all over the pitch this time out. Jonas never gives up and has been a consistent performer, has he ever scored less than a 7 in a game?

Argentinian friends refer to him as ‘the horse’, always running. But he brings skill, playing some great little triangles in tight positions down the line. He’s consistently double teamed by opponents, obviously in fear of his ability to work a situation and he is always a willing ‘out ball’, swiftly turning defence into attack. He draws fouls, is comfortable on the ball and brings others into the play. All of this led Alan Pardew to hand the Captains armband to Jonas in Colo’s absence to great effect, as we won both games. A fitting reward for Jonas’ efforts on the field and I’m sure it was a very proud moment for him, one he richly deserved.

Yohan Cabaye

Yohan Cabaye. For his first season in the English game Yohan has been nothing short of sensational. He’s the dynamo, the midfield general, the play maker. Don’t let that fool you into thinking that’s all he does though. Yohan knows how to stick his foot in with the best of them. He truly covers every blade of grass on the pitch. Helping out in defence, breaking up attacks, pin point accurate passing, either short, medium or long. He’s scored some memorable goals too, when he’s not making them for others. Don’t you just love the way he came here without any fuss and just got straight on with it, without ceremony?

Moving from Lille after winning a double with them last season, foregoing Champions League football to ply his trade with Newcastle in the Premier League. We haven’t had a midfielder like him since the likes of Rob Lee and Gary Speed. His focus is immense, he’s a winner and he’s brought that to Newcastle. The mind boggles at what he’s gonna be like next season, when he’s really settled in. A real contender – WOW!

Hatem Ben Arfa

Hatem Ben Arfa. Hatem brings the magic to this team. After what must have been the absolute nadir of his career last season, he’s come back and produced some real quality as his fitness has improved and the memory of that awful assault in Manchester has faded. You could see in his play earlier in the season that he was dusting off the cobwebs, gaining match fitness and mental toughness as he grew into the season. He was a little tentative at first and used sparingly by the boss, being allowed to feel his way back into games.

Since then though he’s been excellent. He’s really worked on other parts of his game and has fit right into the team ethic. Winning balls in his own half and generally scaring the *%$! out of defences. Turning mazy runs into brilliant and spectacular goals along the way. Bolton away was a watershed goal that paved the way for the Blackburn Bamboozle and the Bolton belter. I think we’ll see a lot more of Hatem next season as he looks fully fit now. If France don’t take him to the Euro’s, they’re mental!

Danny Guthrie

Danny Guthrie. When Danny came in for Tiote mid way through the season he was a revelation. He played his best football for us this year putting in some really eye catching shifts. Linking up well with Jonas, Cabaye, Perch and anyone who was thrown in when the ACoN, injuries and suspensions hit. I knew he had it in him but the way he just walked in from cold was great to see.

He’s another on the fringe and subsequently on the verge of a new deal. I’d like the guy to stay, not only because he’s proved he can walk in and get the job done, but also because he has skill and a great engine.

Well done Danny!

Gabriel Obertan

Gabriel Obertan. Still a young man that hasn’t played that much Premier League football, he got quite a few early season games. He has the kind of pace which has defences recoiling in fear, he’s just lacking the final killer touch and composure for now. He has recently been used as a late sub to keep defences on their toes.

He has time on his side and if he works hard at his game there’s no reason he can’t come good just like James Perch, Ryan Taylor and Danny’s Simpson and Guthrie have.

Honourable mentions

Sylvain Marveaux, Shane Ferguson, Dan Gosling, Mehdi Abeid and Haris Vuckic, keep pushing Lads, your chance will come.

There’s one or three in that little bunch worth a vote and I’m pretty sure that we’ve got a better more balanced and dynamic midfield than we’ve had for some years now. Anyone not happy with that, anyone wanna go back to what we had?

Forwards – Attack, Attack, Attack!

At the start of the season many were feeling worried, if not suicidal about the conumdrum of where the goals were coming from. Who’ll replace the Gatesheed goal scorer, will Demba’s much reported ‘dodgy knee’ hold out, will Leon Best get a game or goals or has Shola got anything left in the tank? Then there was the contributions of Peter Lovenkrands and Nile Ranger. Will Peter get game time, will Nile stay out of trouble? But the biggest question was ‘Will we get a new number 9 worthy of the shirt’s history and heavy responsibility?’

We ended up kicking off the season without a new number 9, but all was not lost. To say that there have been some remarkable performances from our attackers would be an understatement, so let’s move swiftly along and have a little look at what happened next, shall we?

Demba Ba

Demba Ba. A slightly subdued start from Demba, possibly due to Ramadan falling awkwardly at the beginning of the campaign. Demba, being a Muslim, had to observe his religious obligations so it’s fair to say he didn’t come out of the traps flying after a months fasting. He was quickly up and at ‘em not long after though. Demba started piling the goals in and from all angles, starting with a hat-trick at SJP, putting Blackburn to the sword. From then on we became accustomed to seeing his ‘kissing of the ground’ goal celebration, a homage to his faith. There was no stopping the lad then and he was quickly becoming a bona fide Geordie Legend! Another hat-trick at Stoke put paid to their nice little run against the ‘top’ teams at home and started to raise a few eyebrows. Not least Stoke, as they were a team that had scruntinised Demba’s knee and deemed it a ‘ticking time bomb’ (is there any other type?). His penalty secured a hard earned point at Old Trafford and his opener at SJP in the reverse fixture put us on the road to taking 4 points from the reigning champions this season. Nice!

We lost his services to the African cup of Nations and when he returned he was to partner his Senegal team mate, one Papiss Demba Rodney Cisse. By the time he had notched his goal at home to Villa we started to employ a slightly different system and his contribution turned to provider / foil. Demba has been a revelation for us grabbing 16 goals this season with a smile on his face. He was totally unstoppable until Cisse came along and although his goals have dried up somewhat of late, his worth to the team has not diminished. His attitude has remained excellent, he’s been unlucky not to score on several occasions, rattling the woodwork and causing a threat in every game. If Cisse hadn’t come and done what he’s done I like to think that Demba would be sitting with at least another 10 goals to his name. He looked nailed on for player of the season at Christmas and is still in with a shout. He scores with either foot, headers, tap-ins, pens and blasters but he also knows how to drop back, win the ball and provide an outlet. Overall he’s had a magnicent season and has brought back the belief expected of a Newcastle centre forward, no mean feat.

Papiss Cisse

Papiss Cisse. Newcastle have been charting this guy’s progress and making enquiries for some time about the possiblity of signing him. I seem to remember noises coming out of the club after not getting another striker in the summer along the lines of ‘We’ve got money to spend in January, if need be and the right opportunity arrives’. Well, they did and it did and it was Super Cisse! It seems he was going for around £14m in the summer but we got him for up to £9m in January in what has proved to be one of the buys of the season.

What can I say about Papiss’ attributes that we haven’t all witnessed first hand? He roared into action on his debut at St. James’ Park against Villa with a very special winner. Alan Pardew was forced into introducing him early after an injury to Leon Best, he was ready! Since then he’s gone from strength to strength, wowing us with goals of a standard that us Geordies could only dream of since Big Al retired. Some of them have been almost beyond comparison and surely ‘Goal of the Season’ candidates. His movement off the ball is right up there with the best, he must be an absolute nightmare for opposition defences everywhere. Not only have his goals been stupendous, they’ve been timely and very important in our push to stay in the top 5 of the Premier League. Papiss has come in and turned the notion of ‘time to settle in a new league/country/language’ on it’s head. 13 in 13 tells you everything you need to know. It’s prodigious!

He looks like the most wisely spent £9m for a centre forward in the Premier League in recent memory. I’ve tried to rack my brains to compare him with someone, anyone. The nearest I can think of is Ruud Van Nistelrooy, though Cisse’s goals are way prettier to me. His 2 against Chelsea recently were out of this world, the second of which MUST be ‘Goal of the season’! His goal away to Swansea was a class apart too. I know he’s only been with Newcastle since his January move, but knowing how us Geordies love a number 9 who scores amazing goals for fun, there’s a strong chance that Papiss will garner the necessary votes to out score some of our other outstanding performers in this term’s player of the season. To walk into another league, half way through a season without the language, to a club like Newcastle with it’s history of number 9′s, with the weight of expectation and just slam in an amazing goal a game as nonchalant as you like is nothing short of incredible!

Legend!

Shola Ameobi

Shola Ameobi. Shola has soaked up every bit of criticism aimed at him and walked through walls for Newcastle. His role of jumping off the bench whenever asked, popping up with crucial goals, classy assists and exempelary hold up play has been second to none this season. Who can forget his equaliser against Spurs at St. James’ Park?

Shola’s penchant and piece de resistance is as the scourge of the village of the damned. Once again being in the right place at the right time to break a few expectant Mackem hearts. He never moans, even though he’s been used sparingly but he always brings something different to the pitch.
While he’s not likely to be named player of the season he deserves great credit for just getting on with it and chipping in with some great play. He is now one of our longest serving players and defences around the premier league hate the sight of him. Not blessed with killer pace but he’s still got some killer moves!

Geordie Shola – ‘Mackem slayer!’

Leon Best

Leon Best. We haven’t seen Leon for a while, and again, this is more of an honourable mention in despatches. He did start the season well and got us off to a great start with 2 goals against Fulham and another against Villa, also scoring against QPR later in the campaign. However, his season was ended early as an injury in Cisse’s debut heralded the arrival of our new number 9. It’ll be interesting to see if he gets a call for the Ireland Euro squad now he’s back to fitness.

Peter Lovenkrands:

Not really enough game time for Peter to get a full appraisal. He did score in the Carling Cup and as he nears the end of his contract with Newcastle I’d just like to wish him all the best in whatever he does next and give him genuine thanks for the effort and goals he’s throw into the pot in our hour of need. Thank you Peter!

Nile Ranger

Loaned out and helped win promotion with Sheffield Wednesday, well done!

So that concludes our resume of this seasons team, Who will get your vote?

Will it be a defender that has helped us to 15 clean sheets or possibly one of our midfield dynamos. Maybe it’s one of our brilliant goal scorers?

Whoever you vote for, they’ve deserved that vote for the monumental effort they’ve put in in a Toon Shirt.

Howay the Lads!

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115 Responses to “Newcastle ‘Player of the Season’ Vote: 2) Midfielders and Forwards”

  1. 1
    avatar UTD111 says:

    Thanks for those assessments Clint – great work!

    I’ve voted now – for the player I think has been Mr Consistency all season – Fab Coloccini

    He makes it just ahead of Tim Krul in my view.

    But they have all been great this season really :)

  2. 2
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    Cheers UTD,

    It seems to be headed that way, hey?

    Geordies picking defenders over Number 9′s belies the usual punditry angles, doesn’t it?
    ;)

  3. 3
    avatar Jimbob says:

    Best player of the season review out there Clint. Top work mate ;-)

    I think it’s a real shame we’re going to lose Guthrie.

    He’ll have to go to a lesser club for now to get game time, but if he gets a full season under him he has the ability to push on… He just needs to stay fit!

  4. 4
    avatar Supermac says:

    “the village of the damned” – I like it !

    as Willo had 2% on 0 votes I gave him a vote – after all, getting wed has already ruined his week off

    I see the Douglas transfer has hit “agents” problems despite him wanting to come here – shame, he would be fab for us

  5. 5
    avatar Supermac says:

    BTW if you’re your too young to know what “fab” means ask yer grand da

  6. 6
    avatar GS says:

    Supermac: wasn’t that the Krankies?

    That liitle “boy” reminded me of Kenny Dalglish.

  7. 7
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    jimbob,

    thanx mate, really appreciate that ‘proper’ compliment man.

    It was a bit of a labour of love like.

    Ta!

    supermac,

    well done mate, Willo deserves some credit.

  8. 8
    avatar Supermac says:

    Manu have released a youngster called Owen – will we take this reject as well?

  9. 9
    avatar Supermac says:

    Clint – “Willo deserves some credit” – they all do mate, every last one of them!
    I’m reluctant to single out any one of them cos they are a proper team of genuine hard working quality lads – when was the last time we could say that?

  10. 10
    avatar Supermac says:

    GS – no one wants to be reminded of the Krankies !
    Try the groovy chicks of the swinging 60s – now there’s fab memories!

    and I see poor of “boy” Dalgleish has got the boot!
    The new manager will get £30m for players – or £31m if he manages to sell AC.

  11. 11
    avatar Sammy J says:

    Really enjoyed the player reviews. Very tricky…still deciding wish we had STV system so we could place 1-3, but I’m just being indecisive.

  12. 12
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    jimbob,

    totally agree re: Guthrie mate. Great player, but this is the problem when you have good players in the squad. You can only get 11 on the pitch at any one time, so others have to wait, fill in, win a place or move on, i guess.

    sammy j,
    nice one mate!

    It’s a tough call, isn’t it?

  13. 13
    avatar cyprus says:

    Nice assessment, with something good (and correct) to be said about every player. Voted for our loyal and very able Argentine forward-defender-midfielder

  14. 14
    avatar workyticket says:

    Clint, you missed out Alan Smith!

  15. 15
    avatar cyprus says:

    At 8, the ‘youngster’ released is of course THE Owen. Pity about his downfall, probably our worst pound for pound signing, and we’ve made some stinkers.

  16. 16
    avatar workyticket says:

    Tiote’s heed looks like it’s turning into a magic mushroom in his photo.

  17. 17
    avatar chuck says:

    C’mon Clint, be honest!
    You wouldda thought we were Barcelona or summat !

    Guthrie, Best & Obertan, just dont reach the standards required and will be dumped.

    Tiote
    Sure he bangs people, thats one of his problems.
    The guy’s not by any means the finished article.
    His distribution after winning the ball is poor, dumps it as fast as he can to the nearest black & white shirt.
    Has to start looking for the pass and for chrissake, you dont have to send every opposition player into the stands.
    Has contributed little as far as goalscoring is concerned, but we know he has a hell of a shot, shoot more often.

    Cabaye
    A midfield dynamo, who can do it all, score lay on the perfect pass, can put in his foot with vigor, box to box,
    What more can you ask for.

    HBA
    See your still the AP apologist for not playing him earlier…
    …the memory of that awfull assault in Manchester has faded.. I suppose he told you that, did he ?
    You could see in his play earlier in the season that he was dusting off the cobwebs, gaining match fitness and mental toughness, ermm no actually i could’nt, cause he was sitting on the bench for the most part.

  18. 18
    avatar workyticket says:

    The results from this same poll one year ago:

    1) Joey Barton (31% 525 votes),
    2) Cheick Tiote (24%, 405 Votes),
    3) Fabricio Coloccini (12%, 207 Votes),
    4) Kevin Nolan (10%, 172 Votes),
    5) Jose Enrique (5%, 87 Votes),
    6) Andy Carroll (4%, 61 Votes),
    7) Nile Ranger (3%, 44 Votes),
    8) James Perch (2%, 34 Votes),
    9) Jonas Gutierrez (2%, 31 Votes),
    10) Leon Best (2%, 29 Votes),
    11) Alan Smith (2%, 26 Votes),
    12) Wayne Routledge (1%, 17 Votes),
    13) Tim Krul (1%, 15 Votes),
    14) Peter Lovenkrands (1%, 9 Votes),
    15) Mike Williamson (1%, 9 Votes),
    16) Danny Simpson (0%, 7 Votes),
    17) Steve Harper (0%, 7 Votes),
    18) Shola Ameobi (0%, 6 Votes),
    19) Steven Taylor (0%, 5 Votes).

    Total Voters: 1,696.

  19. 19
    avatar UTD111 says:

    Those results look a bit odd at the bottom….

    7, 6 and 5 votes = 0% ??

  20. 20
    avatar Supermac says:

    Krul actualy played every NUFC game, all PL plus both cups! – a fantastic performance – and the reason that Harps & Elliot don’t get a mention

  21. 21
    avatar workyticket says:

    UTD111 says:
    May 17, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    “Those results look a bit odd at the bottom….

    7, 6 and 5 votes = 0% ??”

    UTD111, when you have 19 different choices and no decimal points, these poll things can go a little screwy at the bottom end. From a sample group of 1696, players who got below 17 votes got 0.something % of the vote. The higher ones below that just get knocked up to 1%, and the lower ones rounded down to 0%. It’s close enough.

  22. 22
    avatar workyticket says:

    Supermac says:
    May 17, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    “Krul actualy played every NUFC game, all PL plus both cups!”

    That Rob Elliot gadgie played against Notts Forest in the League Cup, Supermac.

  23. 23
    avatar chuck says:

    … Continued
    Jonas or El Caballo (The horse)like the ever ready battery add. just runs and runs.
    No matter where he plays, just never stops, guess AP must have read one of my rants about fitting him into a defensive midfield role, where he seems comfortable and productive, cause we all know as a winger theres no end product.
    Plus Marveaux will be competing for the left wing along with a rapidly developing Ferguson.

    We may have seen the last of Ba and could sign De Jong
    (no not the leg breaker) the Striker, as a replacement ?

    With possibly Douglas, a big central defender 6′-4″ reputed to be good in the air at both ends of the pitch, just imagine the opposite to Williamson, who cant jump over a matchstick.

    Apparently Simpson is gone, too bad, decent player.
    and we have some big names mentioned as a replacement.
    Lets see?

    But there,s the framework of a decent side being built, as long as we dont sell our better players, would’nt bother me if we trade Ba for De Jong, or Simpson for Yanga-Mbiwa or Cabaye’s mate Debuchy, who’s actually listed as a midfielder ?
    But the inconsistency and obvious lack in quality of some of our players, means they have to be repaced, regardless how much effort or how nice a guy they are.
    I’m sure we will be associated with all kinds of players before the window closes, let the speculating begin.

  24. 24
    avatar chuck says:

    Of last years highest rated players, five of the top seven are no longer at St. James’ Park, who knew ?
    How many will still be here by next year ?

  25. 25
    avatar workyticket says:

    chuck says:
    May 17, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    “C’mon Clint, be honest!
    You wouldda thought we were Barcelona or summat !”

    Clint is being honest, Chuck. He thinks we’re better than Barcelona, the late fifties / early sixties Real Madrid side, the magical Magyars and the great Brazil teams all combined!

  26. 26
    avatar UTD111 says:

    Howay lads!! That’s unfair to Clint!

    He was assessing United players for Player Of The Season, he wasn’t writing an article comparing them with Barcelona – that was not the brief!!

    Nevertheless, luckily for you, I don’t think he’ll be offended by the above…..

  27. 27
    avatar workyticket says:

    Roberto Martinez is gannin’ to be the next Liverpool manager. Possibly.

  28. 28
    avatar Supermac says:

    Clint – workyticket @22says:
    That Rob Elliot gadgie played against Notts Forest in the League Cup, Supermac.
    - get him on your list mate & I’ll give him a vote – every one deserves to share the credit!

    Ferguson? Vukic? anyone else?

  29. 29
    avatar Supermac says:

    Worky – Pards will be next Liverpool manager – they’re so jealous of us they’ll nick any of us!
    £30m compensation?

  30. 30
    avatar workyticket says:

    Liverpool have appraoched Wigan for a cosy chat with Martinez, Supermac.

    Pardew is currently on £6.08 an hour working for Ashley.

  31. 31
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Supermac says:

    “Worky – Pards will be next Liverpool manager – they’re so jealous of us they’ll nick any of us!”

    Whelan has given the RBD’s permission to speak with Martinez and already the thick scousers are calling in their droves saying he’s not good enough for them :lol:

  32. 32
    avatar Jimbob says:

    Minimum wage will increase by a whopping 11p in September Worky to £6.19 per hour. So Ashley may have to let him go by then and employ someone under the age of 21 as the rate for 18 to 20 year olds will remain at £4.98 an hour.

  33. 33
    avatar Tripp says:

    workyticket says:

    “Liverpool have appraoched Wigan for a cosy chat with Martinez, Supermac.

    Pardew is currently on £6.08 an hour working for Ashley.”

    What’s minimum wage in ol’ Blighty anyways?

  34. 34
    avatar Tripp says:

    D’oh. If I’d just waited a sec. Thx Jimbob. You’re min wage is a lot better than ours. Pardew would be living in the bins behind walmart if he were managing over here.

  35. 35
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Whelan gave permission to the RBD’s to speak to Martinez half an hour ago. Already the phone lines are jammed with thick scousers claiming that a “manager steeped in the bottom six of the BPL is not good enough for us” :lol:

    Feckin deluded bin dippers. Take what you can get !!!!

  36. 36
    avatar AndyMac says:

    “Pardew would be living in the bins behind walmart if he were managing over here”

    He is but over here its behind the Chinese in Corbridge :)

  37. 37
    avatar Jimbob says:

    Really Tripp! Where are you at the moment?

  38. 38
    avatar GS says:

    Worky @18:

    That poll was a pretty fair assessment of a mediocre team with very little flair. Barton actually did have a decent season and played to our strengths – hoofball as Chuck would say.

    The interesting thing is how much more flair we have in the team now, comparitively. I include Marveaux and Ferguson, as well as the obvious ones here.

    I am not their biggest fan, but at the risk of stating the bleeding obvious, Williamson, Perch and Simpson are much improved. Could be the Barclays Manager of the Year isn’t just your Mam’s “pin-up-boy.

  39. 39
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Walmart should give you a clue JB

  40. 40
    avatar Jimbob says:

    Actually Tripp I should have picked up on the “Walmart” comment!

    I think our minimum wage here is dreadful. Over in OZ it was around $17.50 per hour, though most unskilled jobs would pay you $20 per hour, which equates to around £12 per hour given the exchange rate is so bad!

  41. 41
    avatar Jimbob says:

    Yeah I know Andy, but to be fair they have Walmart in Canada, where I first visited the fine establishment.

  42. 42
    avatar Jimbob says:

    Wendy’s too… That was excellent.

  43. 43
    avatar GS says:

    AndyMac:

    what exactly is a bin dipper? I know the scouse are known for thieving but bin dipping for what? Is it like “dumpster diving” for old furniture and stuff?

    This is a serious question.

  44. 44
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    May 17, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    “That poll was a pretty fair assessment of a mediocre team with very little flair. Barton actually did have a decent season and played to our strengths – hoofball as Chuck would say.”

    GS, that hoofball thing about the team when we got promoted was a myth, and did not hold up statistically in terms of the amount of long passes we were making during that time. We were actually right in the middle of the road in that respect. It also doesn’t hold up in comparison with our more recent games this season too.

  45. 45
    avatar GS says:

    A bit off topic, but…

    Why are the RBDs looking at Martinez? What has he done?

    He took over a Wigan team that finished 11th under Steve Bruce and they narrowly avoided relegation. Next year avoided relegation on the last day. This year were crap for 7 months and then suddenly put together an amazing last 9 games.

    So, they are seriously thinking about this guy on the basis of a 9 game run?

    Don’t give me the limited budget rubbish because the bottom half of th table work on roughly the same budget.

    Pardew even has a decent record in comparison. He has had teams finish 7th and 5th and got to an FA Cup Final. Ah, but he plays the dreaded 4-4-2 and anyway if it wasn’t for Graham Carr etc. etc.

    Pardew retained Graham Carr by the way and I think is his immediate boss.

  46. 46
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    May 17, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    “AndyMac:

    what exactly is a bin dipper? I know the scouse are known for thieving but bin dipping for what? Is it like “dumpster diving” for old furniture and stuff?

    This is a serious question.”

    Someone who lives by foraging from dustbins, usually used as a derogatory term for people who live in the Merseyside area. In Tyneside, it is sometimes used as a derogatory term for people from the Wearside area too.

  47. 47
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    May 17, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    “Pardew even has a decent record in comparison. He has had teams finish 7th and 5th”

    Pardew’s previous best in the Premiership was 9th (with West Ham), not 7th, GS.

  48. 48
    avatar GS says:

    Worky:

    Funny that. Stats are not always representative. You can knock it around at the back for 5 minutes and the final pass can be a howk up field and I would still say that is hoofball. My IMPRESSION was that last year we played more like that.

    This year I think Krul and Williamson are not good in possession and have been told to get rid of the ball quickly.

  49. 49
    avatar GS says:

    9th, still better than Martinez.

    I didn’t look it up and only guessed. And I do know Pardew has an up and down managerial career. Lucky that we are in the up phase at the moment.

  50. 50
    avatar GS says:

    Thanks AndyMac:

    that’s what I thought. I did wonder why it was mainly in reference to Merseyside. Probably because of high unemployment and Alan Bleasdale.

  51. 51
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    May 17, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    “Thanks AndyMac:”

    That was me, GS.

  52. 52
    avatar Tripp says:

    Jimbob, I’m in Colorado… Denver area. Federal min wage is $7.25/hr. Here in CO it’s $7.64/hr. So it’s absolute shyte compared to what you lot have.

  53. 53
    avatar GS says:

    Sorry Worky:

    I have been away from Newcastle for 30 years and couldn’t remember them being called bin dippers.

    Do you agree about Martinez? It is a big risk. I would go for Jurgen Klopp. Mainly because I like saying Jurgen Klopp and could drop it into the conversation more than I do now.

    I value your opinion as you follow this a lot more closely than me.

  54. 54
    avatar GS says:

    Clint: I am very upset with you. You didn’t call Leon “Irishman Leon Best”. They even say he is Irish on his wikipedia page. It must be that strong Nottingham, Ireland accent.

    Sorry, this sort of thing amuses me. Chris Hughton was often referred to as “Irishman Chris Hughton” despite his London accent.

  55. 55
    avatar Jimbob says:

    Tripp that’s pretty shite mate. I dunno if the wage out there reflects the cost of living though… Because it definitely doesn’t over here!

  56. 56
    avatar AndyMac says:

    workyticket says:

    “GS says: “Thanks AndyMac:”

    That was me, GS.”

    Caution Prima donna at large :)

  57. 57
    avatar Tripp says:

    Jimbob, it don’t. You can’t live on that here unless you’re living with 6 of your best mates. Sadly, in the US “me” comes well before “we”. We’re going through a very polarized time in our development as a country. It will be interesting to see how we come through it. Might have to bugger off to the UK or Canada if it gets much worse.

  58. 58
    avatar Jimbob says:

    Tripp, in my opinion I’d certainly not come here mate. I loved Canada, though it was freezing! I can’t wait to bugger off from here back to OZ / NZ!

    Though I just don’t particularly like the UK so I’m just voicing a very personal opinion.

    But there ain’t much work over here mate either, and it doesn’t look like improving anytime soon.

  59. 59
    avatar Tripp says:

    The US seems to be on a knife edge… either we’re going to move forward and join the ranks of civilized nations or we’re going to backslide into a kinda of christian version of Iran. Well, that might be a bit extreme, but maybe not. I’m self employed and can be just about anywhere in the world and do my job… though timezones do play a factor. These days, I am mainly working with folks in New York, so I’m 2 hours behind them anyways.

    If I moved to Canada, it’d be to the left coast most likely. Lots of great piping up there, which is my main hobby/passion.

  60. 60
    avatar Tripp says:

    Would really love to check out NZ. Beautiful country (and lotsa piping there too!)

  61. 61
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Tripp says:

    “The US seems to be on a knife edge… either we’re going to move forward and join the ranks of civilized nations or we’re going to backslide into a kinda of christian version of Iran”

    Soz Tripp but most people in so called civilised countries are being shafted right now – just look at those poor bastads in Greece. Unfortunately Big Business and I mean BIG business now rules over governments. Financial institutions are determining the future but not the likes of you or me !!!!

  62. 62
    avatar workyticket says:

    Tripp says:
    May 17, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    “If I moved to Canada, it’d be to the left coast most likely. Lots of great piping up there, which is my main hobby/passion.”

    Tripp, if piping is your thing, Saltburn by the Sea over here is the place to be. I used to live there many years ago and just up the road from there is the Wilton chemical works, which was Ridley Scott’s inspiration for Blade Runner (Scott was a Smoggy originally). It’s just thousands of miles of pipes of various gauges all wrapped around each other. It’s an amazing site at night time when all the pipes are lit up. It is piping central!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/tees/content/articles/2009/03/30/tees_tf_blade_runner_feature.shtml

  63. 63
    avatar Tripp says:

    Aye Andy, I rather agree. I love what Iceland did to the douche bags that got their arse in a sling. We shoulda done that here.

    Worky, what a beautiful landscape. Smogland must be quite the tourist destination. Sod Spain when you can go to Middlesboro. lol

  64. 64
    avatar AndyMac says:

    WT says:

    “It’s just thousands of miles of pipes of various gauges all wrapped around each other. It’s an amazing site at night time when all the pipes are lit up. It is piping central!”

    WT the poor bloke lives in Colorado which is heaven on earth compared to Teesside ! In fact anywhere is heaven on earth compared to Teesside :lol:

  65. 65
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    May 17, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    “Do you agree about Martinez? It is a big risk. I would go for Jurgen Klopp. Mainly because I like saying Jurgen Klopp and could drop it into the conversation more than I do now.”

    Martinez completely flummoxes me, GS. Not for the first time, Wigan were shite for thirty games until they are staring into the abyss, then he finally gets up off his arse, changes his tactics and turns them into el dream team.

  66. 66
    avatar AndyMac says:

    WT says:

    “then he finally gets up off his arse, changes his tactics and turns them into el dream team”

    ……..while showing up the “BPL Manager of the Season” as a clueless rube.

  67. 67
    avatar workyticket says:

    AndyMac says:
    May 17, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    “WT the poor bloke lives in Colorado which is heaven on earth compared to Teesside !”

    No better place for piping though, Andy. That’s where all the guff comes from!

    I used to live in Saltburn by the Sea for a while, and Whitby. You’ve obviously never been to Runswick Bay, which is one of the most beautiful fishing villages in the UK. Saltburn’s a fairly pleasent Victorian seaside town too and smog free. All the stuff from the Wilton plant just gets blown straight over to Scandinavia to knack all their forests!

    Redcar is a bit like that Morrissey song though “This is the coastal town that they forgot to close down…”

  68. 68
    avatar GS says:

    Religion flummoxes me. They try and convert me and spout all of this unprovable nonsense and then if you question even a small part of their “faith” they act like you’ve killed one of their children.

    If anybody wants to read some counterarguments to religion look up a guy called Sam Harris. Don’t follow his advice and question people’s faith though, especially if they have guns in their pick-up truck.

  69. 69
    avatar AndyMac says:

    OK Saltburn or http://www.colorado.com/ is undoubtedly better than Teesside and let’s not forget http://www.metro.co.uk/news/70240-middlesbrough-named-worst-place-to-live

  70. 70
    avatar GS says:

    AndyMac:

    why are you so against Pardew? We have had so many worse managers and Pardew at least gets it right sometimes and may even be building a decent team.

  71. 71
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Having said that Gravesend doesnt look too good either :)

    http://www.chavtowns.co.uk/top-10-worst-places-to-live-in-england/

    “Gravesend is populated by the most grotesque, loathsome, vile and vulgar sub-human vermin that one could ever have the misfortune to come across. The vast majority of its inhabitants (chavs and pikies) are foul, hateful, and degraded beings who, in evolutionary terms, have not evolved much from the amoeba”

  72. 72
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    I think i did mention ‘The Republic’ in the same breath as Leon Best mate.

    Not even gonna dignify…

    :)

  73. 73
    avatar GS says:

    Clint: I saw that which is what made me think of it.

  74. 74
    avatar workyticket says:

    AndyMac says:
    May 17, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    “Gravesend is populated by the most grotesque, loathsome, vile and vulgar sub-human vermin that one could ever have the misfortune to come across. The vast majority of its inhabitants (chavs and pikies) are foul, hateful, and degraded beings who, in evolutionary terms, have not evolved much from the amoeba”

    Personally, I’d rather have Gravesend than the hateful little nazi pricks who write shit like that.

  75. 75
    avatar GS says:

    AndyMac @69:

    Islington at number 7?

  76. 76
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    There are some high end parts of islington too.

    GS,

    ah ha!
    It worked!

    :)

    Here here worky!

  77. 77
    avatar GS says:

    I lived in Islington and the South end is very posh. Angel was dodgy, but I think even there is OK now.

  78. 78
    avatar AndyMac says:

    GS says:

    “AndyMac:

    why are you so against Pardew? We have had so many worse managers and Pardew at least gets it right sometimes and may even be building a decent team”

    You know I quoted “Emperors New Clothes” the other day GS and that’s how I feel about the SHS.

    The Sportsmail insight into the background of NUFC and, in particular, the Strategy Room made me even more concerned that Pardwho doesnt have an original tactical thought in his head !

    “Strategy Room

    Preparations for Saturday’s visit to Wigan get under way first thing on Monday morning when analysts Kerry Morrow and Ben Stevens take their seats in the dark video room, known among the coaches as the bunker.

    Speaking in a language most ordinary football fans would struggle to comprehend, they piece together the best (or the worst) of Newcastle’s opponents. They also study every aspect of Saturday’s win over Stoke City.

    This week the Newcastle players will be shown two videos featuring Wigan, dealing with defensive and offensive aspects of one of the more unique teams in the Barclays Premier League.

    Nothing is left untouched, or two chance, but there can be interesting debrief sessions with Pardew on a Monday morning.

    Ben Stevens says: ‘If we’ve conceded a left foot free-kick into the top corner, he’ll come in and say “you didn’t tell me he could do that”. Thankfully that doesn’t happen very often.”

    Add to that the recently aired fact that Pardwho hasnt once managed to change a game, when NUFC concede first, to win it at full time and you kinda wonder if he has that ability to take this club to the next level let alone into the Europa League.

  79. 79
    avatar GS says:

    I miss Islington. Labour Club comedy was top rate and The Mean Fiddler.

  80. 80
    avatar GS says:

    AndyMac:

    One thing. He HAS taken this club into the Europa League – by hook or by crook.

    I read that sport mail article, and thought “now we’re f@cked for Saturday”.

  81. 81
    avatar AndyMac says:

    GS says:

    “AndyMac:

    One thing. He HAS taken this club into the Europa League – by hook or by crook”

    The quality of this squad would have made it extremely difficult for him not to do so GS.

    “I read that sport mail article, and thought “now we’re f@cked for Saturday”

    Agreed. I read so much shlte purporting to come straight from the SHS’s mouth and what really concerns me is his talent for flip-flopping, a term I’m sure you’re well aware of in the US.

  82. 82
    avatar AndyMac says:

    GS says:

    “I miss Islington. Labour Club comedy was top rate and The Mean Fiddler”

    So where are now GS and do you mean “miss” in a metaphorical sense or would you sell up and ship back home tomorrow if it was down to you ?

  83. 83
    avatar AndyMac says:

    workyticket says:

    “Personally, I’d rather have Gravesend than the hateful little nazi pricks who write shit like that”

    WT you really need to get out more and I mean that. OK its someone’s opinion about a place but what makes them a Nazi for writing it ?

    I dont like Pardwho or the Fatman but I’m pretty sure I aint a card carrying communist or a gay rights activist :lol:

  84. 84
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    Aye GS,
    the ‘Angel’ is ok these days, upper st. is restaurant central.

  85. 85
    avatar GS says:

    AndyMac:

    It is up to me, don’t have kids. I was laid off a while back and haven’t even looked for a job. I sold my flat and considered moving to California because the weather is shit for 6 months of the year in Chicago.

    I might. I am living off investemnts at the moment and even with the crap going on now I am comfortable.

    I was in Newcastle about a year ago and the village I grew up in is dead, there used to be 4 pubs and now there is one and that is populated by the local drunks except they are 20 years older.

    Unless I move to Cali I will work for 10 more years and move to Europe, but not England.

    I suppose I miss Islington in a metaphorical sense, you know, more care free times. There was probably as much shite going on as there is now (Thatcher) but looking back it doesn’t seem that way.

  86. 86
    avatar GS says:

    Clint:

    I lived across the road from the Flounder and Firkin and would be on Upper Street most Saturdays. Upper Street always had good pubs and restaurants, now they are just posher. I was there a couple of years ago to see what the old neighbourhood looked like.

  87. 87
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    This lot are taking us back to those vile thatcher times GS.

    Run by rich C***S (& their lackies) once more, blaming everything/one but their family members that run the banks into the ground down the casino/stockmarket.

    Cuts, cuts & cuts as per usual, same mantra, same shit, it’ll garner the same result!

  88. 88
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    Ah!

    Next town along for me, Camden!
    Not as hip as it used to be, too many corporates moving/cashing in.

  89. 89
    avatar GS says:

    People over here think that we love Thatcher. My brother-in-law got me a signed copy of her autobiography.

  90. 90
    avatar GS says:

    Clint, I know you live in Camden, they say you like it up the passage.

  91. 91
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Cali it is then GS !!! :)

  92. 92
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    I know mate, that’s cos they actually thought they liked raygun ronnie.

    They believe any shite that makes it to tv is true though, not that it’s much different ower here these days.

    Depressing!

  93. 93
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    GS,
    isn’t camden passage in islington, off upper st?

    I don’t anything, literally, it’s an acetic quality mate.

    :)

  94. 94
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    * I don’t ‘like’ anything…

  95. 95
    avatar AndyMac says:

    CLiNT FLiCK says:

    * I don’t ‘like’ anything…

    You like Pardwho the Clueless CF :)

  96. 96
    avatar GS says:

    Yes, it is an overpriced antique stall type place with a couple of decent pubs, at least they were. More likely corporate now with that pisswater Budwieser on tap.

  97. 97
    avatar GS says:

    AndyMac:

    I really think Pardew put your kittens in a bag and threw them in the Tyne.

  98. 98
    avatar AndyMac says:

    GS says:

    “AndyMac:

    I really think Pardew put your kittens in a bag and threw them in the Tyne”

    Its not Pardwho per se GS its the history, more specifically the recent history, of this club and its ability to hire shlte managers who stay for the prerequisite amount of games/seasons before someone decides they’re not good enough and we throw a six and start all over again.

  99. 99
    avatar CLiNT FLiCK says:

    GS,

    i think it’s a bit more personal & painful than kittens in a river mate.

    :)

  100. 100
    avatar GS says:

    @98

    As far back as I remember it has always been like that.

    At least he is not dismantling a good team like “King” Kenny.

  101. 101
    avatar AndyMac says:

    GS says:

    “At least he is not dismantling a good team like “King” Kenny”

    Not yet………

    Having joked about the SHS a lot it does worry me that he appears to have little or no tactical nous or at least enough to bev able to change a game when we’re losing. I can almost hear the opposition manager telling his team “Just score first lads, they’ve got no Plan B”.

    Quite how we came back to draw with the Gooners is a mystery to me although pal Joey had some influence on that result.

  102. 102
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Quite how we came back to draw with the Gooners is a mystery to me although, IMO, pal Joey had some influence on that result.

    Others will disagree :lol:

  103. 103
    avatar Jimbob says:

    Would be quite a concern if opposition managers do indeed just say “score first lads and minimum we’ll get a point”. :-)

    It’ll be alright AndyMac have faith.

  104. 104
    avatar GS says:

    AndyMac:

    his “Plan A” works well sometimes and I have enjoyed quite a few of the games. He is the manager and he puts the staff in place and ultimately deserves credit for who has been bought.

    Better than Shearer’s “Plan A” which was to put Ian Dowie in charge.

    Don’t get me wrong, I agree with some of what you say.

  105. 105
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Anyway if you want my opinion about your future GS, I’d go and do it while you can. If you’ve sold your flat you’re halfway there anyway !

    Advertise (in reputable places) for a drive buddy to help with the journey across to California and who knows you may find somewhere along the way that grabs you. If you’re living on investments whats to stop you ?

    I’m off to watch a movie then bed before another challenging day tomorrow trying to juggle rent defaulters, mortgage lenders and bank managers :)

  106. 106
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Jimbob says:

    “It’ll be alright AndyMac have faith”

    Those are almost the same words I would hear on TOTT and all the other fan sites down the years JB. Particularly when we had Gullitt, Dalglish and the original clueless Mark 1 in charge. To this day I cannot bear to mention his name.

    Groundhog day :)

  107. 107
    avatar GS says:

    Nothing tstop me Andymac, but would be leaving some good friends. I can’t see myself in Chicago for the rest of my life which is what is making me think to move now whilst I am still relatively young.

    Goodnight and don’t have nightmares about Sunderland scoring first. Shit, that already happened and we came back to get a draw and should have won easily.

  108. 108
    avatar GS says:

    One last thing AndyMac,

    was TOTT the Blog where that fan used to write all his opinions in Geordie? I sort of wondered where he went.

  109. 109
    avatar workyticket says:

    AndyMac says:
    May 17, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    “Gravesend is populated by the most grotesque, loathsome, vile and vulgar sub-human vermin that one could ever have the misfortune to come across. The vast majority of its inhabitants (chavs and pikies) are foul, hateful, and degraded beings who, in evolutionary terms, have not evolved much from the amoeba”

    “WT you really need to get out more and I mean that. OK” its someone’s opinion about a place but what makes them a Nazi for writing it ?”

    People who refer to other people as somehow less than human, as “sub-human vermin,” as degraded beings who have hardly evolved from the Amoeba debase themselves, Andy. They are the first who would want certain sections of society to be swept away and sent to camps and gassed or whatever. They really make my skin crawl, though I pity them.

  110. 110
    avatar chuck says:

    Wey a divina !
    A gan oot for a coupla Amstels n’ ye all gan at each others throats like, howeh man !
    Minimum wage, pipe fitters,Denver to Frisco ?
    Howeh lads, suposed to be aboot football init ?
    I can see you need sumat to get your teeth into, or y’all turn on each other.
    Ahl talk to yez the morra, give y’all sumat to bitch aboot.
    later!

  111. 111
    avatar chuck says:

    Yo ! Workey dude, i’m on your side here, but this conversation is going no-where, buncha fu**ed up guys who’s heads are whacked, trying to make points more fu**ed up than they are.
    Manana !

  112. 112
    avatar GS says:

    Howay man Chuck:

    it was mainly about football and maybe a little bit about common experiences, places, talking about peoples lives, jokes.

    That’s how normal people make friends, (:

  113. 113
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    May 18, 2012 at 4:02 am

    “Howay man Chuck:

    it was mainly about football and maybe a little bit about common experiences, places, talking about peoples lives, jokes.”

    GS, I think he may have been referring to my little rant about the latest trend we seem to have picked up from your side of the pond, ie talking about the poor as if they’re some kind of “sub human vermin” and similar terms. Apologies for the rant but it really gets on my tits!

  114. 114
    avatar GS says:

    Worky: No worries. I was more referring to #110. I am trying to get over to Chuck that it is in the nature of blogs to go off on tangents.

    Talking of which, you going from piping to Boro was out there. I don’t even know what piping is, I assumed surfing.

    Anyway, we all have prejudices, even if we try to fight them. I sometimes laugh at sick or racial jokes even though I shouldn’t. I am glad you’re still idealistic. Sometimes, I just feel like giving up, let the bastards wallow in their ignorance.

  115. 115
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    May 18, 2012 at 4:45 am

    “Talking of which, you going from piping to Boro was out there. I don’t even know what piping is, I assumed surfing.”

    Actually, yes, you’re right there, GS! Silly me!

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