Chelsea vs Newcastle United full match video, extended highlghts and interviews

Chelsea vs Newcastle United full match video

Chelsea vs Newcastle United full match video, extended highlghts and interviews.

Chelsea vs Newcastle United full match video, extended highlghts and interviews (Opens in new window).

A disappointing and rather predictable first half performance from Newcastle United, which saw us two goals down by the interval. Chelsea’s first goal came with a 22nd minute penalty by Hazard after Torres was brought down by Anita on the 22nd minute. Then, Torres himself scored on the stroke of half time.

Although we had a better performance in the second, it was too little too late and Chelsea maintained their two goal advantage.

Teams and match facts

Chelsea (4-2-3-1): Petr Cech (G), Branislav Ivanovic, Gary Cahill, David Luiz, Ashley Cole; John Obi Mikel, Raul Meireles (Frank Lampard 88), Eden Hazard, Juan Mata (Ramires 67), Ryan Bertrand; Fernando Torres.

Substitutes: Ross Turnbull, Oriol Romeu, Michael Essien, Frank Lampard, Ramires, Oscar, Daniel Sturridge.

Newcastle United (4-4-2): Tim Krul (G), Danny Simpson, Steven Taylor, Fabricio Coloccini (C), Davide Santon (Sylvain Marveaux 74), Hatem Ben Arfa, Vurnon Anita, Yohan Cabaye (James Perch 77), Jonas Gutierrez, Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse.

Subs: Steve Harper (G), James Perch, Mike Williamson, Ryan Taylor, Dan Gosling, Sylvain Marveaux, Gabriel_Obertan.

Score / Goals: Chelsea 2-0 Newcastle United – Eden Hazard (Pen, 22), Fernando Torres (45+2),

Referee: Phil Dowd.

Yellow Cards: Tom Daley Fernando Torres.

Red cards: None.

Attendance: 41,718.

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71 Responses to “Chelsea vs Newcastle United full match video, extended highlghts and interviews”

  1. 1
    avatar DJG says:

    This is an un-godly hour to be posting highlights wt. :)

  2. 2
    avatar workyticket says:

    DJG, whoever put this full match video up only did the second half, and they’ve only just added the first half a few minutes ago. This post has been all ready to go since last night.

    I’m a proper insomniac. If I work on stuff during the day I’m shite, but if I work through the night I’m like a well oiled machine, so that’s what I end up doing usually.

    I can schedule posts on here to be published when I’m asleep or out the house too.

  3. 3
    avatar Kamar says:

    Did Chelsea take their foot off the pedal in the second half or did we put ours on, or both?

    Chelsea look a different team from last year, especially going forward. Hazard looks really good and Torres has found his form and confidence. With Moses and Marin they look good for a top spot. The TV commentator suggested that Sturridge should consider a move. A proven premiership player and goal scorer, albeit with an attitude, would be good for us.

  4. 4
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Aug 18th 2012

    “We didn’t play well in the first half. Our passing was a little bit off and we were a bit unsure as to who was doing what job.”

    Aug 25th 2012

    “In the first half I genuinely thought we looked a bit lacklustre and lacked a bit of a spark in that period”

    Grumpy I may be but is anyone spotting a pattern here ?

  5. 5
    avatar sampdiago says:

    We got outplayed,cabaye was off,raylor shouldnt have come on,cisse needs to find form,and we had no real attacking option on the bench,i would gladly take carrol back,wheres sammy?

  6. 6
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Sammy’s injured along with his older bro leaving us with 2 strikers. (see physio room ad —–>)

    As for 4, I just cannot see why Pardwho doesnt see it. http://morespaciousthantheheavens.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/earth-hour-or-emperors-new-clothes.html

  7. 7
    avatar Sammy J says:

    Think Sammy is injured. Mirror is reporting that we’re back in for Debuchy 6m plus add ons but would be dependant on Lilles exit from champions league.

  8. 8
    avatar chris says:

    does any one think nani at manure is worth going in for a season lone as he issont wanted there is he better than the wingers we have and ask chelski for sturridge on lone

  9. 9
    avatar AndyMac says:

    chris says:

    “does any one think nani at manure is worth going in for a season lone as he issont wanted there is he better than the wingers we have and ask chelski for sturridge on lone”

    Just read your post yesterday about lacking creativity. Agree wholeheartedly as without Cabaye playing further forward we have nothing apart from HBA’s cameos.

    Our biggest problem atm is we have no one capable of threading balls through to the two predatory strikers (forget wide wing players as 9/10 the crosses get cut out) from Area 14. If we had Cabaye further forward he could do it but there’s little or no back up.

    As for players out left, Ince is looking like he’ll make it at the highest level and is the right age.

    Dont think we’ll get Sturridge on loan just as we wouldnt have got Lukaku either. Chelski dont want to shlt on their own doorstep so loan players will only go to teams that cannot realistically compete with them for topo four/six.

    From this early stage it looks like Everton are gonna be the biggest threat to the top four this season unless we can bring in some quality ?

  10. 10
  11. 11
    avatar TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:

    well it was just another perfomance from “parvenu’s”, managerial handbook, which is probably as thin as the job section, in thursday’s edition of the chronic.

    we looked like west ham of old, with demba ba looking suspiciously like a carbon copy, of carlton cole.
    we have got two of the best strikers in the league, but we couldn’t get the ball to them.
    all chelsea had to do, was double up on ben arfa, and we were cattled.

    jonas works hard, but there is next to nothing, in terms of end product.
    he just runs and runs, until he falls over, or hits the shins of the nearest opposition player.

    i sound like a stuck record, but all we ever get is the no more, no less, performance week in, week out.
    some weeks it will work against the so called lesser teams, and some weeks, we will look like a bunch of rank amateurs.
    parvenu just cannot seem to get any more from his players, for some reason.
    we seem as though we are stuck in second gear, and cannot get into third.
    so you get this one paced, one dimensional style of football, that just looks to contain teams, and hits and hopes the ball forward, in a vain hope one of the strikers, will come up with a moment of magic.

    in all honesty, we were never in any kind of danger, up until the soft penalty, was given away.
    we lacked any kind of creativity in the middle of the park, and spent our time playing in front of chelsea’s back four,then knocking the ball back 40 yards to the defence.
    we again just didn’t look like creating too much, although there was a few half chances, we had no ideas, to try and break chesea down.

    we had a little bit of a go in the second half, but was this more to do with chelsea being two up, and taking their foot off the gas?.

    the bench looked p*** weak again, with very little to choose from, so we were always going to struggle, to get back into the game.

    when we did manage to put the ball into the box, yohan cabaye’s delivery was shocking, to be fair.

    we are now getting to the point, where the old saying, will come into play, “team spirit will only get you so far”, as we need to move the club forward again.
    can we do this under parvenu’s stewardship?, i would say it’s doubtful, then you have to factor into the situation of whether, “the charver king”, will put his hand in his pocket.
    hughton fostered that team spirit, and work ethic, and i think parvenu is riding on the shirt tails of that, too much for my liking.
    yes we have that in abundance, but it also takes skills to compete at the higher levels, and we are still three or four short imo.
    there is still time left in the window, but i wont hold my breath, as this is the time of year, when the rotors start to spin, and a nice little earner del boy.

  12. 12
    avatar AndyMac says:

    “i sound like a stuck record, but all we ever get is the no more, no less, performance week in, week out”

    But only for 45 minutes :(

    “when we did manage to put the ball into the box, yohan cabaye’s delivery was shocking, to be fair”

    Wasnt good last week either. Is he still jaded from the Euro’s or pissed off because of the Debuchy shambles ?

  13. 13
    avatar TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:

    sorry andymac, you’ll have to bear with me, as i have a banging hangover.
    what i meant was, they play this one paced game, that never alters in intensity.
    granted in the second half, it looked like they were more in the game, but i think that was more due to chelsea, taking their foot off the gas, which made us look better.

    i’m also talking about his delivery from set pieces, and corners, not in open play.

  14. 14
    avatar TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:

    i thought with john terry not being available, it would be an area we could exploit, with us having taylor, collicini,cisse and ba, in there, but the delivery was non existant.

  15. 15
    avatar GS says:

    Cheer up. We played the European Champions who have added high class players to their team. One of their players (Torres) cost as much as our entire team. Plus Torres should have been sent off for his two dives.

    Arsenal look toothless without Van Persie and Liverpool could be bottom of the league in a few hours.

    There’s a spark missing and that will come when Cabaye and Cisse regain their form which they undoubtedly will. Oh, and we did have Anita playing his first full premiership game for us.

    I like Jonas for his effort and ability to bring the ball out of defense. However, as TR73 said there is no end product. We cannot afford him as a winger anymore, he is either a left back or defensive mid-fielder. When you look at his goals and assists it is clear that he should not be played as an attacker.

    I think Chuck or Worky made a similar point before and I have come around to their way of thinking.

    It could be a lot worse. We could have Sam Allardyce as manager. I watched the game yesterday and found myself wondering how someone just standing there chewing gum could annoy me? Yes, the way he was masticating annoyed me.

  16. 16
    avatar GS says:

    What are the odds of Tiote going to Arsenal and Carroll and Debuchy coming in to appease angry fans? And Ashley still achieving his goal of zero net spend :)

  17. 17
    avatar maze202 says:

    I’d take anything above £20m for Tiote. Would like to think it’d be used to top off the bid for Debuchy. We could try Jonas as a defensive mid, he didn’t do badly there last season a couple times. Would allow Marveaux to start.

  18. 18
    avatar GS says:

    And another thing. I think there is an overreaction to this loss. We weren’t played off the park and Chelsea have been known to beat sides by cricket scores. And people ASSUME Chelsea had a second gear, well they didn’t show it so how can you assume they had it?

    I have watched enough Newcastle games not to be too worried. Sometimes a few players have an off day together or the opposition are simply better than us.

    Doesn’t mean we should sack the manager.

  19. 19
    avatar AndyMac says:

    GS says:

    “And another thing. I think there is an overreaction to this loss”

    I think you’re missing the point of a lot of these comments GS. Its not so much the defeat against Chelski but more the manner of our performance. The two quotes above from Pardwho stating we didnt get going in the first half could have come from any one of a dozen games last season too.

    I’m just waiting for the day when we get a fully committed, tactically sound display (not holding my breath though).

  20. 20
    avatar GS says:

    AndyMac, I know you are black and white through and through. We have some deficiencies, but can you not be a bit more positive.

    Pardew gets the team to play with a lot of effort. I see what you are saying about us not pushing on in some games because I thought we could and should have tw@tted some teams last year.

    The problem is that to get rid of Pardwho we would have to lose games and with our first team I don’t think we will lose that many. Who would we get to replace him?

    To be sure Michael Laudrup has had a great start for Swansea, but that is only 2 games of premier league experience. By the way, the Daily Mail call him Brian in today’s article.

  21. 21
    avatar TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:

    even if newcastle went on a bad run, and they sacked parvenu, he would only be replaced by another compliant mug.

  22. 22
    avatar AndyMac says:

    GS says:

    “The problem is that to get rid of Pardwho we would have to lose games and with our first team I don’t think we will lose that many. Who would we get to replace him?”

    Nobody in their right mind (well apart from Chuck :)) is advocating a management change because as Trojan suggests it aint ever gonna happen. The Fatman needs Pardwho and vice versa.

    However that doesn’t prevent people from criticising Pardwho for not utilising his squad fully. OK it seems as if we ‘re all on the anti 4-4-2 bandwagon but the personnel he has at his disposal are not best suited to that system and he has to work that out asap. FFS even Woy is ditching 4-4-2 for something more “modern”.

  23. 23
    avatar AndyMac says:

    and before someone writes “we finished fifth in the league playing 4-4-2″ lets not forget that Pardwho was forced to change formation on more than one occasion last year just as he did last weekend.

  24. 24
    avatar Tripp says:

    We also had a fair share of good fortune last season… we’re unlikely to get that two years in a row.

  25. 25
    avatar workyticket says:

    People are writing “blah blah 4-4-2 bad, blah blah 4-3-3 good” and so on, but it isn’t quite as simple as that. There are other questions which follow on from that such as what kind of 4-4-2 is Pardew playing? is it too static? Is he selecting the right players in the right positions to make it work and so on…

  26. 26
    avatar sampdiago says:

    Hatem will go,tiote wont,we wont buy,and carrols not coming back,cabaye is tired and pissed off about debouchy,cisses tired and hasnt been the same since we refused to let him go to the olympics…But I love my club and will hope somebody can tell me im wrong.

  27. 27
    avatar maze202 says:

    Man City played 4-4-2 today and it was awful. We don’t have any wingers that make crosses, and it’s only Ba that would make good use of them anyway. It’s the dilemma of how to play after promising Ba a more forward role this season.

  28. 28
    avatar workyticket says:

    maze202 says:
    August 27, 2012 at 2:48 am

    “Man City played 4-4-2 today and it was awful.”

    I thought it was a 3-5-2 maze, first made famous by Bilardo, Maradona and the Argies when they won the World Cup in 1986. Or looking at it another way, a 3-2-3-2 with two holding midfielders, 3 attacking midfielders and two strikers. I was reading about how Mancini might employ it against other “big” teams (“big” as in Man U, Chelsea etc, not “big” as in Stoke with their giant battering ram players). So he sees Liverpool as a “big” team. I wonder if he will use the same formation against Newcastle? :-).

    I suspect in Liverpool’s case it was partly an effort to deflect them from their managers devotion to a possession based game, forcing them to rely on more long passing, and it seemed to work a bit early in the game. I only saw MOTD highlights of it though, not the whole game.

  29. 29
    avatar workyticket says:

    That fuccchhhin’ Skeeeertel la!

  30. 30
    avatar geordiedug says:

    im not sure what will make any of you fellas on here happy? talk of replacing pardew is nonsense!

    pardew is better than houghton and the team IS progressing which is quite clear over the last season and a half under him

    without huge funds available to him he has only been able to bring in one ready first teamer (so far this window), do people really think he hasnt asked for the funds to go on others? or has targets he wants to bring in?

    we played the reigning European champs in their own backyard and didn’t disgrace ourselves at all. yes the team have alot to work on but better teams and so called bigger clubs will go their and get a good mauling and i much prefer setting up for the win instead of parking the bus and praying for a draw

    it was a brave selection and put huge faith in his players to go with double demba and ben arfa and we created 2 glorious chances on another day we might have taken.

    we are 2 games in man ffs spurs and chelsea so what do people honestly expect a team like us to achieve? get realistic gents and look for the positives as your in for another long hard season of nit picking at a group of players and a manager who blew away everyones expectations last season and even if they are out of sorts a little this time round we have had a pretty solid start to the season

  31. 31
    avatar GS says:

    Will Joey ever learn? He apologizes in a non-apologetic way and spouts off on the internet which is what got him into trouble with Ashley:

    http://www.football365.com/news/21554/8020846/Joey-Barton-s-Heart-Already-In-The-Velodrome-

  32. 32
    avatar workyticket says:

    AndyMac says:
    August 26, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    “However that doesn’t prevent people from criticising Pardwho for not utilising his squad fully. OK it seems as if we ‘re all on the anti 4-4-2 bandwagon but the personnel he has at his disposal are not best suited to that system and he has to work that out asap. FFS even Woy is ditching 4-4-2 for something more “modern”..”

    I presume you mean 4-3-3, though 4-3-3 and 4-4-2 are of roughly similar vintage. Brazil are usually credited with the earliest use of 4-3-3 in the 1962 “Garrincha” World Cup. At roughly the same time, Victor Maslov started using 4-4-2. Though 4-4-2 first came to prominence in England with Alf Ramsay and it was Rinus Michels who really perfected the modern 4-3-3 in Europe.

    Old Woy is a good tactician of some sophistication, divven’t write him off as a one dimensional dinosaur, the early coaching of young English players may be a better target.

    Fact of the day: Tiqui taka Spain played nearly all of the 2008 European Championship (which they won in some style) as a 4-4-2 to accomodate Villa and Torres up top, though they changed right at the end to something between a 4-2-3-1 and a 4-1-4-1 when Villa got knacked in the semis and Fabregas came on for him.

    As I wrote in another comment above, it’s about far more than just the formation.

  33. 33
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    August 27, 2012 at 5:33 am

    “Will Joey ever learn? He apologizes in a non-apologetic way and spouts off on the internet which is what got him into trouble with Ashley:”

    GS, Is it OK when sulky Frogs like Benny and Debuchy do it to come to Newcastle, but worse than Hitler when little Joey does it (bless him)? :-)

  34. 34
    avatar workyticket says:

    geordiedug says:
    August 27, 2012 at 4:25 am

    “im not sure what will make any of you fellas on here happy? talk of replacing pardew is nonsense!

    pardew is better than houghton”

    Who mentioned replacing Pardew except for Chuck? And how is Pardew better than Hughton, Geordiedug?

  35. 35
    avatar GS says:

    Worky @32: You should know by now that I have double standards when it comes to current and even potential Newcastle players.

    As yet, twittering doesn’t seem to have hurt the careers of the Frenchies, although you could make a good argument that Newcastle is a step down or them (or stepping stone).

    At this point I think Joey is a wellpaid figure of fun and he doesn’t see it. Do you really think his 1.6 million followers want to hear what he has to say or are they just interested in watching a trainwreck? Either way, F@ck him, I don’t care about him and find it all mildly amusing.

  36. 36
    avatar GS says:

    Worky: I think I mentioned Pardew being dumped in reference to me thinking there was an overreaction to a loss to a very good team.

    We have been handed a tough start with Spurs, Chelsea and Everton in the first 4 games, as well as the Europa games.

    Don’t complain about talking about formations. You like to talk about formations :) Hey, I think Arsenal are going with Spain’s “no striker” formation except Spain scored when they used it.

  37. 37
    avatar AndyMac says:

    GS says:

    “I think I mentioned Pardew being dumped in reference to me thinking there was an overreaction to a loss to a very good team”

    ♫ Same old GS, always stirring ♫ :)

    As for different types of 4-4-2 WT, you could claim 3-5-2, 6-4-0 or 8-1-1 are all “variations” of 4-4-2 if you really wanted to. However that would also be stretching it to i-t-s l–i–m—i—-t—–s :)

    Bottom line is we are less creative, as MOTD2 showed last night we’re also less likely to shoot and therefore less likely to score.

    “the greatest success (i.e. number of goals) continues to come from shots within the penalty area or just outside the central areas of the pitch where there is a greater chance for accurately finding the low corners of the net” Hence the Zone 14 comment earlier.

  38. 38
    avatar AndyMac says:

    I know CF wasnt a great believer in stats but an average 4 shots on target per game either means we have to be extremely accurate or we need to get more scoring opportunities ?

    “Over the last three seasons more than 85% of goals have been scored from within the penalty area, 41.7% of strikes being placed into the bottom corners of the goal during the 2010/11 campaign. This informs us that, despite improvements in shooting accuracy even from distance, the greatest threat is still posed from close-range where players are able to shoot more precisely and force goalkeepers to react faster”

  39. 39
    avatar Grumpy Old-Toon says:

    GS, “Tough Start”, hah! As it’s been said a million times there are no easy games in the EPL. Even if we had 10 home games straight off against the so called relegation contenders it would be a tough start. We have to do well against every team as they come and with the squad we have we should expect to do so. We certainly had some good chances against Chelsea and on another day might easily have got a good result there.

    The mistake Pardew made imo was sticking Anita straight in the team rather than using him off the bench, he looks a great prospect but may need some time to get used to the EPL.

  40. 40
    avatar chuck says:

    Workey
    @27 and 31
    We all are aware of your didactic nature by now, but puleez enough of the lectures on formations, which look like algebraic equations, where simple minded people like myself gan whaaa!
    What the fcuk i’ze talkin aboot, KISS!
    Perhaps we should have a quiz on who can remember who the fcuk Victor Maslov was?
    Dont get bent outta shape, i’m kidding!

  41. 41
    avatar chuck says:

    On Joey
    From a personal perspective i find Joey quite amusing and why anyone would want to ban his twittering escapes me.
    Actually was wondering if football players have clauses in their contracts, banning certain statements, something that could be construed as a freedom of speech issue.
    It was stated recently that a certain PL manager has banned cell phones from the stadium, i recall where N’Zogbia during his spell at NUFC, was chastised for using one in the dressing room.
    Then a more recent tweet or twitter from Ferdinand, was found to be racist in nature and he was fined i believe by the FA.
    Anyone aware of what control both the FA and the players clubs have, over personal behavior and the use of communicative devices and exactly why they are allowed to at times extract big bucks from those players, for what most including ourselves on this blog, might consider a personal opinion, which most countries allow under their particular freedom of speech laws.

  42. 42
    avatar chuck says:

    AndyMac @ 22
    ..Nobody in their right mind (apart from chuck) is advocating a managerial change….

    Dont know how you came to the conclusion i may be in my right mind, nevertheless, i have felt that way about him since day one, but i’m not that naive as to be unaware of why he got the job and how difficult it would be to get rid of him (not that he has never been fired before)

    But it’s my belief that he is not the right choice if in fact our “dear leader”, has any ambition of earning any silverware or wants to compete at the higher levels of football, why !
    If you have to ask…….

  43. 43
    avatar AndyMac says:

    I know where you come from Chuck. To this day I still believe he cant believe his luck in having such a gifted squad to phuck up week in week out.

    “Newcastle began the game with a very deep defence and two compact banks of four. Chelsea were able to move forward at will, easily crossing the halfway line before Newcastle exerted any pressure on their opponents.

    It wasn’t until the 8th minute of the game that we managed to get players inside their half and enjoy a brief flirtation with possession.

    Newcastle have been successful with this reactive approach over the past season. They are prepared to allow their opponent to secure a greater share of possession whilst they look to exploit gaps on the counter attack normally via Cisse and Ba working the channels. The most glaring example of this strategy was away to Swansea when Newcastle retained their shape and controlled the space to secure a 2-0 away win.

    The strategy though, is entirely predicated on not conceding the first goal. Once you fall behind, it is necessary to open up”

    Salutory lesson for the Toon. If we ever go a goal down Pardwho hasnt got what it takes to get us back into a winning position.

  44. 44
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Salutory lesson for the Toon. If we ever go a goal down Pardwho hasnt got what it takes to get us back into a winning position.

    In other words no

  45. 45
    avatar workyticket says:

    chuck says:
    August 27, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    “AndyMac @ 22
    ..Nobody in their right mind (apart from chuck) is advocating a managerial change….”

    “Dont know how you came to the conclusion i may be in my right mind”

    Neither do I, Andy.

  46. 46
    avatar Jimbob says:

    “All my players are important, all my bigger players. They are hard to replace now. But we haven’t had any phone calls from any club about any of our players.”

    How about you say that nobodies going no matter what, there is only one week left…

    Anyway, I am 100% sure we will sell if a decent offer comes in, even on the last day for any of our important players. Replacing them takes second priority.

    And, could we please bring in a striker and a centre back and stop the BS about being interested in Carroll.

  47. 47
    avatar TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:

    why should newcastle utd, have to sell any of their players?, as far as i’m concerned, we dont have to.
    so why is it we have parvenu, crapping himself in the cronic, about bids for cabaye and tiote.
    why doesn’t he just come out and say, they are not for sale.
    surely if the club are looking to build, then why are they not giving parvenu, any assurances, to the fact.
    why would any manager in his right mind alert other clubs to his players, if he didn’t want to sell?
    it is a though he is inviting people to bid for them, the whole thing stinks, this is why i dont trust this bloke, one bit.
    i see modric now looks like he’s on his way to become a galactico, and ashley has history with spurs.
    by all accounts the deal could be woth over 50 million, i hope this is not the catalyst for a free helicopter ride!!!

  48. 48
    avatar GS says:

    G-O-T @38: I totally disagree with you. There are certain elite teams that usually include The Manchesters, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs. Their financial resources allow them to buy more and better players.

    You might say there are no easy games in the Premier League, but some games are easier than others. I think I would rather play West Ham than Manchester United.

    Some teams might get off to a good start like Swansea, but usually by Christmas it settles into the familiar pattern and you know who you would rather play.

  49. 49
    avatar Grumpy Old-Toon says:

    GS you don’t have to “totally” disagree with me. ;)

    You only need to look at the current league table to see my points are reasonably valid. With some of the “lesser” teams at the top end and the “bigger” teams struggling. Obviously this can and probably will change as the season progresses.

    I do think the mindset of management in most clubs now is to follow the Swansea example and improve the tactics and training to compensate for being unable to spend big.

    There might well be some easier teams to play but they are diminishing.

    How about if I said there a fewer easy games in the EPL? :)

  50. 50
    avatar AndyMac says:

    TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:

    “why should newcastle utd, have to sell any of their players?”

    End of !

  51. 51
    avatar GS says:

    Is anybody else mad that Sunderland appear to be willing to spend money when we aren’t? I still feel we have a superior team, but Adam Johnson would have been nice.

    Sorry, if Chuck already said this, I missed a few earlier blogs and have a suspicion that he may have already made this point given his love for AJ.

  52. 52
    avatar geordiedug says:

    workyticket said

    “Who mentioned replacing Pardew except for Chuck? And how is Pardew better than Hughton, Geordiedug?”

    Alot of comments are quite clear they dont rate Pardew at all? take your pick on any of the above as they fault find with ease on last seasons manager of the year after only TWO league games this season.

    i really like houghton he comes across as a nice fella who conduct’s himself well and was a fantastic servant for us. at the time he was sacked i was in 2 minds that maybe he had taken us far enough and maybe a more proven manager would pick up on his good work and push the team forward. not in a million years did i think of or want Alan Pardew but like a blog i wrote at the time low expectations combined with a low pressure environment (as not much was expected of pardew) we seem to fair better and like it or not we play better football under Pardew and he has taken us to the next level. Houghton is part of that but i think this is quite clearly Pardews team now and with a group of players who are not just motivated by money we have reaped the benefits. The challenge now is to manage expectations and improve on WHAT WE HAVE!

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    avatar geordiedug says:

    GS says:
    August 27, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    Is anybody else mad that Sunderland appear to be willing to spend money when we aren’t?

    hes a good player but for the money and wages hes on id rather have HBA. The scum spent that record amount in the whole history of the club just to try and catch us up.

    im still hopeing for a ST, CB and a RB to come in before the window shuts (i know dont hold my breath but at least one would be nice)

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    avatar chuck says:

    Geordiedug
    People get awards not always for what they have done, sometimes it’s a case of in spite of what they have done.
    At least that’s my opinion on Pardew getting his manager of the year award.
    For instance, can anyone name a game that we won, due to some particular changes he made or mention any game, that he used any unusual tactical measure that obviously, worked.
    Christ sake, the guy seems to send the players out without even a plan and seldom adjusts or changes anything, whether loosing or leading.
    And you believe this guy is better than Hughton, who has a history in coaching, with some of the top managers while at Spurs and who had a fantastick season when the club was relegated, playing head and shoulders above the rest of the league.
    In comparison how did AP do, right, got fired from Southampton.
    IMO AP was never hired because of his football knowledge, it’s purely a matter of birds of a feather, look at our other top guy Llambias, was he hired because of his knowledge of the business ?
    It’s my opinion, this side will never reach it’s potential under AP, cause i doubt he’s got a grasp of how the modern game is played.
    I really believe in the importance of a manager, who understands the game tactically and can instill in the team the importance of each player as part of a concentrated team effort.
    In other words, sides with a good group ethos, are capeable of beating clubs with better players , who play a less integrated game.
    But then watching a HBA or any flair player is always a pleasure and sometimes can be game winners.
    No, i believe it’s a case as far as AP is concerned, “the
    emperor has no clothes” and am confident eventually the bandwaggon people will have to admitt it also.

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    avatar chuck says:

    Workey @ 45
    Touche !

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Previous winners of the League Managers Association “Manager of the Season” award:

    1994 – Joe Kinnear, 1995 – Frank Clark, 1996 – Peter Reid, 1997 – Danny Wilson, 1998 – Dave Jones, 1999 – Alex Ferguson, 2000 – Alan Curbishley, 2001 George Burley, 2002 Arsene Wenger, 2003 – David Moyes, 2004 Arsene Wenger, 2005 – David Moyes, 2006 – Steve Coppell, 2007 – Steve Coppell, 2008 – Alex Ferguson, 2009 – David Moyes, 2010 – Roy Hodgson, 2011 – Alex Ferguson.

    Previous winners of the Premier League “Manager of the Season” award:

    1994 – Alex Ferguson, 1995 – Kenny Dalglish, 1996 – Alex Ferguson, 1997 – Alex Ferguson, 1998 – Arsene Wenger, 1999 – Alex Ferguson, 2000 – Alex Ferguson, 2001 George Burley, 2002 – Arsene Wenger, 2003 – Alex Ferguson, 2004 – Arsene Wenger, 2005 – Jose Mourinho, 2006 – Jose Mourinho, 2007 – Alex Ferguson, 2008 – Alex Ferguson, 2009 – Alex Ferguson, 2010 – Harry Redknapp, 2011 – Alex Ferguson.

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    avatar GS says:

    Worky @56: for the most part, that is not bad company to be in.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    August 28, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    “Worky @56: for the most part, that is not bad company to be in.”

    It seems to have been the kiss of death in management for quite a few of them, GS. Monkey’s Heed, Clarky, Danny Wilson, George Burley and so on… Davy Jones was even falsely accused of indecent assault and cruelty to bairns after he won his LMA one. Worse than that, Roy Hodgson had to manage Liverpool, and then England!

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    avatar geordiedug says:

    chuck says:
    August 28, 2012 at 12:55 pm
    Geordiedug
    People get awards not always for what they have done, sometimes it’s a case of in spite of what they have done.
    At least that’s my opinion on Pardew getting his manager of the year award.

    So he didn’t get or deserve his award then for guiding nufc to within a whisper of champions league football then? on a very mediocre budget? playing some outstanding football along the way? at a club which has become notoriously hard to achieve success at?

    chuck says:
    For instance, can anyone name a game that we won, due to some particular changes he made or mention any game, that he used any unusual tactical measure that obviously, worked

    how about switching the team from 442 to an attacking effective 433 playing some electric attacking football sometimes even away from home? being one of the very few managers to ever get the best out of HBA, selecting Krul as his number 1, making collo captain, signing dembas and cabayes ETC ETC man the list is endless of good things we done and achieved last season. yes there is plenty of room for improvement and that has to be this seasons aim but to have this view on the man after the season we had is just plain daft? chuck what do you expect of a team with the resources hes had available to realistically achieve?

    chuck says:
    Christ sake, the guy seems to send the players out without even a plan and seldom adjusts or changes anything, whether loosing or leading

    He has x amount of years as a player and as a coach/manager with a backroom staff that seems to be working well and utilising a sensible scouting network! Yep totally agree YOUR right the man is clueless and must have just fluked the whole league campaign last season and was never under any pressure whatsoever or asked the same questions 100 times a week from the local media etc. They must just sit around all week at the training ground drinking tea and not bother with any of that planning business

    chuck says:
    And you believe this guy is better than Hughton, who has a history in coaching, with some of the top managers while at Spurs and who had a fantastick season when the club was relegated, playing head and shoulders above the rest of the league.In comparison how did AP do, right, got fired from Southampton.

    I didn’t at the time and like i said he was probably the last person i would have given the job to, but love him or hate him he has quite clearly moved the club forward both in playing style and league posisiton while integrating new players. that’s a fact and not just my opinion. maybe houghton could have but we will never know. whats getting sacked at southampton got to do with uS and how he has performed now? was he not doing a decent job there until allegations of foul play with certain players wife’s came up?

    chuck says:
    IMO AP was never hired because of his football knowledge, it’s purely a matter of birds of a feather, look at our other top guy Llambias, was he hired because of his knowledge of the business ?

    Agree it does smack of a deal done in a shady corner of a dingy London casino but in his shoes regardless of the circumstances we would have all taken the job. lamabias is a different kettle of fish as he and Ashley are ruthless business men that quite clearly dont care about fan opinion, but again as i dont trust or particularly like them we are progressing forward as a club. again thats fact and not just my opinion? how far, and if it in accordance with the arsenal model of running a footy club, or just Ashely trying to make a quick buck ad sell us out remaids to be seen.

    chuck says:
    It’s my opinion, this side will never reach it’s potential under AP, cause i doubt he’s got a grasp of how the modern game is played.
    I really believe in the importance of a manager, who understands the game tactically and can instill in the team the importance of each player as part of a concentrated team effort.
    In other words, sides with a good group ethos, are capeable of beating clubs with better players , who play a less integrated game.

    didn’t we over achieve and maximise most of the players potential at the club last season? Pards probably isn’t a top level manager but his stock is rising, he does and has made plenty of mistakes but we bounce straight back and he has moved our style of play on from the predominately direct game we played under houghton incorporating a flexable 442 transitioning players into a 433 when the couter attack is on? im no expert in tactics but again hasn’t he got the team galvanised as we were written off more than once last season while also giving the then champions a good mauling at SJP? Keeping houghtons legacy of a good dressing room going?

    chuck says:
    No, i believe it’s a case as far as AP is concerned, “the
    emperor has no clothes” and am confident eventually the bandwaggon people will have to admitt it also.

    that statement sends a chill down my spine! shouldnt you as a fan want the team to do well??? chuck i get it you don’t like pardew and your more than entitled to your opinion on him but your arguments and reasons dont add up? surely you can see why people are happy with the majority of his management of the first team at nufc?

    WHO would you rather have? you remind me of the guy when we sacked souness they interviewed on sky outside the ground who said “what aboot that guus hiddink fella”

    I’m certainly no bandwagon person and last season i got the chance to meet pards and the players in Columbus on pre season. I was very wary about the trip as if you recall nufc were having the usual bonkers pre season we have become accustomed to, with the enrique cabaye and barton sargas ongoing at this point and some serious negative press about the tour also. We stayed in the same hotel as the players and i was surprised to find all of them very friendly and happy to chat with you and do autographs etc pardew was a very pleasant and a genuine guy and ALWAYS had time for the fans even when they were giving him s@#t! the vibe i got from the game and the whole experience set the tone for me that we will do well and we have.

    hopefully your in for another horrible season chuck

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    avatar GS says:

    Good Luck Geordiedug: Chuck will not change on one single point whatever your rebuttal.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    geordiedug says:
    August 29, 2012 at 2:08 am

    “I’m certainly no bandwagon person and last season i got the chance to meet pards and the players in Columbus on pre season.”

    And of course, that has nothing whatsoever to do with your long and furious defence of our Silver Supremo, geordiedug ;-)

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    avatar Geordiedug says:

    Worky it was my first ever time I came into contact with any players or manager of nufc and other than what I witnessed we as fans are only speculating on about 95% of what we think goes on at nufc. We all have our opinions but that facts are there he’s not been bad for us in the current circumstances

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Geordiedug, I know someone who was taught how to coach by Chris Hughton amongst others. He’s not an NUFC fan at all, but he won’t have a word said against him either. One of the things he said to me about him was that he had a excellent memory for names, and made everyone feel like they had known him for years.

    Personally, I think alot of what Pardew has been able to achieve has been because of the legacy of what Hughton left with his rebuilding of the scouting operation, bringing in Graham Carr to replace Dennis Wise and his two assistants, and he is a far better coach than you seem to realise too. It was his idea to play Benny on right amongst other things even though he’s a left footer and had been played on the left previously. It was the same with Barton too, realising how effective Nolan could be if he was pushed forward into the hole too and several other things. As for Pardew playing a 4-3-3, I was saying that quite a while before he did it if only to unleash Benny. This was when Pardew was saying that Ben Arfa was not a winger and should only be played in the middle when he had already excelled on the left hand side of a front three in France. On the right, he is better if anything because the pitch seems to open up for him even more on the “wrong” side. It was Hughton who saw that.

    I certainly wouldn’t say that Pardew is a bad manager, but at the very highest level he can be somewhat limited sometimes. He certainly deserves credit for what he did last season, but it was undoubtedly the players who deserved the most credit of all. I feel ashamed of the so called fans who try to lay into players like Simpson from a point of view of almost zero knowledge, then, if you try to make any kind of critique of the coach, or Ashley for that matter they go mental and whine about “getting behind the team.”

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    avatar TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:

    i would agree with that, you can give him credit for what he achieved, but i still think we could have picked up more points.
    i think a lot of the mistakes in those games, have to fall onto his toes.
    a lot of times his tactics and his substitutions were questionable at best.
    he has rode on the shirt tails of what chris hughton started, and hasn’t really put much of his own stamp on it, other than get the ball, from back to front, asap, and play the percentages.
    he is without doubt limited at the top level, and i can see him being found wanting in europe.

    what i dont like about him, is his constant over the top flattery, and his “delusions of grandeur”, where mike ashley is involved.
    he has come in, and on the surface, it looks like he is briefed by the gruesome twosome, before an interview.
    the words he uses seem to come from someone other than himself.
    you get the same cryptic messages, that you get from the board, when the put their heads above the parapet.
    one thing is said, but means another, and you find yourself reading between the lines, to try and get to the truth.

    another thing about him, is his willingness to prostrate himself to the board.
    he praises them constantly, but has been hung out to dry, by them on numerous ocassions.
    so he is either complicit in what’s going on, and knows a lot more, than he lets on to, or he is just out for himself, after being previously washed up, after his sacking from soton.
    he is clinging on to the best job, he’ll probably ever have, and is willing to demean himself, in the process.
    imo you cannot have any respect for that, i would think more of him, if he had walked away.
    a lot of fans have bought into him though, and i’ve viewed other boards, where phrases like, “in pardew we trust”, it staggers me to be fair.
    what i’ve seen of him, he is anything but trustworthy, i wouldn’t put him in charge, of someone’s pet cat, for a week.

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    avatar chuck says:

    Geordiedug
    Believe what suits you.
    Rather a long rebuttal and i’m not about to do the same.
    What i have attempted to do, is give an opinion, which should have been obvious to all.
    That is i dont think AP has the knowledge or ability to lead this side, either in the PL or in Europe, to any success and only time will tell.
    You mentioned a lot of positives, giving him credit for building the side, i believe that credit should go to our Mr. Carr, in that regard.
    As for his tactical genius, changing from a 4-4-2 to a 4-3-3, yes that was definately a stroke of genius.
    I believe he also used a 4-5-1 once or twice, what a guy! amazing!
    Nah ! stick with my original statement Doug.
    But no hard feelings, just a difference of opinion.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:
    August 29, 2012 at 11:15 am

    “what i dont like about him, is his constant over the top flattery, and his “delusions of grandeur”, where mike ashley is involved.
    he has come in, and on the surface, it looks like he is briefed by the gruesome twosome, before an interview.
    the words he uses seem to come from someone other than himself.
    you get the same cryptic messages, that you get from the board, when the put their heads above the parapet.
    one thing is said, but means another, and you find yourself reading between the lines, to try and get to the truth.”

    To be fair to Pardew, it’s not an easy job at all to be a manager for those two bastards, and he probably has little choice.

    If things go well, they will manipulate things to take all the credit for their ever so clever strategy, and if they don’t, it will all fall on to the Silver Supremo, as was the case with his predecessors and all those smear stories such as Keegan going mental and Hughton losing the dressing room. Most of the things the club has achieved to bring itself up from the depths of despair and back into European competition has been the work of football people like Hughton, Carr and Pardew and has often been despite, not because of Ashley and Llambias. We saw what their ideas were like when we got relegated.

    Thankfully though, they did release some control and left it to the football side to a degree when they completely ran out of ideas. Every time it’s up to Llambias, like with the Academy, it all seems to go tits up.

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    avatar GS says:

    All quiet on the transfer front. The silence is deafening in regard to transfers. And other cliches.

    Will there be time to bring in Debuchy AND ship out Simpson? I think Fatty will want to do both or neither.

    Maybe, as AndyMac suggested, convert Obertan to a right back. Those stepovers are great near your own penalty box.

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    avatar GS says:

    Sh@T, Man City have signed Nastastic. The Red Top hacks will be wetting themselves with anticipation of the headlines they can write.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    August 29, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    “Sh@T, Man City have signed Nastastic. The Red Top hacks will be wetting themselves with anticipation of the headlines they can write.”

    “Mr. Nasty” once he puts a few robust tackles in, probably.

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    avatar TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:

    worky, he’s still a cnut though lol.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:
    August 29, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    “worky, he’s still a cnut though lol.”

    Trojan, sources close to this blog (GS) claim he looks like he’s been on the “Just for Men” recently. Poor Tina will have to keep a close eye on his escapades again, and the players will have to watch their missuses too if that’s the case!

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