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Manchester United vs Newcastle United full match video, extended highlights and interviews

Posted on September 27th, 2012 | 68 Comments |

Manchester United vs Newcastle United full match video.
Manchester United vs Newcastle United full match video.

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Manchester United vs Newcastle United full match video, extended highlights and interviews.

Full match coverage of Newcastle united’s League Cup match against Manchester United at Old Trafford.

Sadly, Newcastle eventually bid their farewells to the League Cup for another season thanks to two excellent shots from Anderson and Tom Cleverly for his first goal in 18 months. In Cleverly’s case it more than made up for what was a hell of miss earlier in the game, something for which he received the “hairdryer” treatment for from Ferguson at half time according to Wayne Rooney.

One thing we Magpies can take comfort from though is that it did see a welcome return to goalscoring form from Papiss Cisse, albeit from around two inches in front of the goal! He scored a reply for the Mags barely two minutes after he came on as a 60th minute substitute for Haris Vuckic. Perhaps the real star of that goal though was 12 year old Shane Ferguson’s excellent cross / assist, which put it on a plate for the recently faltering Senegalese hitman.

Extended highlights and post match interviews.

Extended highlights and post match interviews (from the League Cup show).

Teams / Match facts

Manchester United (4-3-3): David de Gea; Marnick Vermijl (Ran Tunnicliffe 77), Michael Keane, Scott Wooton, Alex Buttner (Robert Brady 86) Darren Fletcher (c), Tom Cleverley, Anderson; Danny Welbeck, Wayne Rooney (Nick Powell 77), Javier Hernandez

Subs: Sam Johnstone, Jonny Evams, Jesse Lingard, Ryan Tunnicliffe, Robert Brady, Nick Powell, Joshua King.

Newcastle United (4-4-1-1): Rob Elliot (G), James Perch, Mike Williamson, Fabricio Coloccini (C, Shane Ferguson 60), James Tavernier, Steven Taylor, Davide Santon, Gabriel Obertan, Cheick Tiote (Gael Bigirimana 71), Dan Gosling, Sylvain Marveaux, Haris Vuckic (Papiss Cisse 60), Shola Ameobi.

Subs: Steve Harper (G), Shane Ferguson, Gael Bigirimana, Vurnon Anita, Romain Amalfitano, Sammy Ameobi, Papiss Cisse.

Score / Goal scorers: Manchester United 2 (Anderson 44, Cleverly 58) Newcastle United 1 (Cisse 62).

Yellow cards: Gael Bigirimana (90).

Red cards: None.

Referee: Anthony Taylor (Manchester).

Attendance: 46,358

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68 Responses

  1. i’ve read some of the comments from the previous post, and although it was an entertaining game, and on paper it looks close, we’ve blown the only opportunity we had of winning anything, yet again!

    i cannot understand why pardew, wouldn’t take this more seriously?
    it is without a shadow of a doubt, our only realistic chance of silverware.
    every man and his dog knows fergie plays his young’uns, in these games.
    we should have had more of a go at this cup, imo.

    both sides started with four or five first teamers, but what got me was, beyond that, our fringe had more experience, than man utd’s.
    fergie was throwing on real young’uns in tunnicliffe etc, who had very little game time, period.
    we had a fringe of players, who have a bit of experience in the prem, europe etc.
    we had vukic,tavernier,williamson, freguson who came on, even cisse on the bench.
    so in reality we couldn’t even beat a bunch of kids, who fregie had out.
    we are continually told our youngsters and fringe players can step up to the mark.
    they are bigged up on daily basis, and yet again the “quiet man”, pardew was waxing lyrical, in the chronic, about how he was convinced, we would beat man utd.
    only the other day, you had bigi, giving it large, about how the fans should trust them, to do the job.
    yet again they are made to look ridiculous, with their claims, they should all learn to keep their mouths shut.
    ashley and co tell us that all the money is spent on academy and the development squad, yet we couldn’t even get an a license, complete bull, from these chancers.

    pardew dropped the bollock last night, as he waited too long to make his subs, if he had of made them five minutes earlier, we might have had a better chance of chasing the one goal deficit, rather than the two.

  2. TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:
    September 27, 2012 at 10:29 am

    “i cannot understand why pardew, wouldn’t take this more seriously?”

    Trojan, perhaps Ashley has told him that he must put more empahasis on the more financially lucrative Premier League and qualifying for the Champions League? Either that or he’s thinks he’s in the same league as managers such as Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho now, seeing the likes of the League Cup as somehow beneath him, and an unwelcome distraction from pursuing bigger prizes?

  3. worky, there will definately be that way of thinking behind it.
    you cannot help to think though, that this particular cup is winnable, and it’s another route into europe.
    pardew is now saying, it was low on his list of priorities.
    personally i think that is a crap attitude to have, we haven’t won anything, for so long, that any kind of triumph, would be a start.
    we need the monkey off our back, and when you look at some of the clubs, who have won it, in recent history, there’s no reason why we couldn’t lift it.

  4. Perhaps this competition wasn’t prioritized but if you expect the first team to go out for our first couple matches in the FA Cup you’ll be disappointed.

    Champions League? Having a laugh. Maybe our admin didn’t notice how Chelsea and Spurs and even Everton strengthened during the window. Or Arsenal’s form.

    Oh well the next match would have been at Chelsea. I’m not excusing AP or his selection based on that but as it turned out it may not have mattered. I don’t have much confidence in our beating the mancs and Chelski in sequence no matter what squad we put out.

  5. Not having watched last nights game i cant comment, other than quote our grey gaffer, who thinks the side were terrific, though he has admitted we are lacking in the CD field and reluctantly played Williamson.
    Unbelievable nonsense.
    I dont know if i’m the only one who’s noticed the NUFC PR department is going all out to pacify the fans , by feeding them feelgood stories, our kids are future stars, Elliot is now as good a goalie as Krul, etc.
    Obviously the club does’nt give a shit about those cheapass cups, we are concentrating on bigger and better things, perhaps winning the league ?
    FFs a side that has won nowt in fifty years, no wonder Everton were upset by our tude.
    Last seasons fifth place was a poison chalice for us and we will be lucky to finish in the top ten this season, but there will be excuses and lots of PR to calm the fans again, just dont expect any dosh to be spent.
    Ashley is in the business of making money not spending it, unless it’s for a N.Y. party or in the casino.
    Hey whadda ya gonna do !

  6. Agree 100% TJ.

    What shouldnt have been a surprise was Pardwho once again failing to win a cup match. By my reckoning that’s four out of five defeats at the first hurdle ?

    As for our “fringe” squad I would have been happier if he’d chosen Campbell to partner Shola instead of Vuckic last night. IMO the lil “Ginger” has far more potential than Vuckic has ever shown since he came here.

    I think we can all agree Gosling and Obertan will never rise to the challenge of regular first team football with us and despite WT’s protestations Vuckic aint gonna make it either I’m afraid :(

  7. The sad part is we have almost as good a first eleven as those who have finished in the league’s top four recently and with a few additions, could have been quite competetive.
    Though with the millstone of Pardew around our necks, i seriously doubt we can win anything.
    I have in the past touted Clarke as far back as when he coached West Ham, as a future manager and he appears to be doing well at West Brom. who no one expected anything from, a team of no names.
    Hell we would probably been better off signing Nigel Adkins AP’s replacement at S’ampton.
    Then there’s paul Lambert at Villa, doing well with another no name side, of course WT’s favorite at Swansea Michael Laudrup aint doing too bad.
    We then have Martinez doing his survival job at Wigan, but the guy who wouldda been my choice Martin Jol, presently working wonders a Fulham wouldda been the best choice, quality manager.
    Who coldda got us some silverware and if not, would have us at least playing attractive and entertaining football.

  8. On the subject of weakened teams. If we continue in the same vein there’s a possibility that the likes of Ba, Cabaye and HBA will finish the season having played 38 games and f all else ? Surely 38 games isnt the maximum for a player nowadays ?

  9. AndyMac says:
    September 27, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    “Surely 38 games isnt the maximum for a player nowadays ?”

    Is that sarky rhetorical question Andy?

    As you probably know really, the likes of Messi an C-Ron play 50-60 games per season in Spain if they divven’t get knacked.

  10. AndyMac says:
    September 27, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    “Sorry to have to tell you this Chuck but…… eight more years ??????????”

    As you should know by now Andy, everything is a tawdry sham and not as it seems with Ashley. It’s an almost meaningless PR contract – Do you really think that it’s a real contract like the one other managers get?

    If he sacks Pardew, I’ll bet the payoff will still be around £50, and possibly a few Sports Direct vouchers if he’s lucky.

  11. all money aside, what it does show, is ashley and co, know nowt about football.
    there are more than a few signs, that pardew isn’t up to the job.
    to give him an extension, is just plain ridiculous.

  12. AndyMac: I am surprised you are able to type on your way to the RVI after suffering a massive coronary.

    I was thinking how tough it is going to be this year to even finish top 8 what with the 2 mancs, 2 merseysiders and Arse, Spurs and Chelsea all having good teams.

    Don’t get me wrong, I think we have a good team as well but they have all improved more than us this season, at least on paper.

  13. GS says:

    “AndyMac: I am surprised you are able to type on your way to the RVI after suffering a massive coronary”

    Now that justice has been done for the 96 (in theory) I’m setting up a new pressure group entitled “Justice for the long suffering, Toon Army members who’d like to win a trophy before we all die” group.

    Snappy lil title doncha think ?

  14. WT says:

    “As you should know by now Andy, everything is a tawdry sham and not as it seems with Ashley. It’s an almost meaningless PR contract”

    Yeah I know its all bogus WT but is there really any need for it ?

    Spin, PR call it what you will its serving only one purpose and that is to say to the fans you’re fecked :)

  15. Worky: it is difficult to tell with Pardew how his contract would be structured. He has such a high opinion of himself that he would probably accept a highly incentivised contract. However, he must have an Agent and they would surely have insisted on a guaranteed level at least as high as his previous deal? My guess is Ashley is on the hook for more than the previous deal, but that the previous deal was one of the lowest in the premier league anyway.

    I have no inside knowledge, and this is just a guess.

    You have said in the past that Ashley pays his Managers and “Capos” at Sports Direct to the detriment of the regular workers, so it is not impossible that this is a much improved deal.

  16. So pardeux sylvans best mate gets an eight year contract,written in invisible ink and we get gosling and obertan,no CB to challenge williamson or colo,(I will say he looked rusty last night)whos going to come in for alan p,?wigan?

  17. I recall in the early Ashley period, i questioned the lack of any PR at the club.
    I definitely regret those statements.
    Beware of what you ask for !

    It would take a massive responce from the Newcastle fans to what could be an unsuccessful upcoming season, to oust our grey gaffer, even though the payoff may be meager.
    As i doubt if Ashley has a real interest in spending the neccessary dosh in order to gain a top four and championship entry.
    From observation, it appears he’s more interested in a top ten spot, where he can still earn an annual profit from epl income plus perhaps sell a player or two for a decent profit (hopefully replacing them with cheaper youngsters, like Bigi for Tiote)use St. James’ Park as a free advertising board for Sports Direct and have a Sycophant for a manager and a mouthpiece for a general manager.
    Only ego would inspire him to successin in a footballing sence, which he has, but his prime goal appears to be power and wealth.

  18. Nile ranger and dan gosling have been given 8 year deals,Obertan is going to be played upfont with cisse,pardew thinks ben arfa is our new right back,and gosling will be confirmed as captain.

  19. sampdiago says:

    “Nile ranger and dan gosling have been given 8 year deals,Obertan is going to be played upfont with cisse,pardew thinks ben arfa is our new right back,and gosling will be confirmed as captain”

    Just goes to show what a bit of good news does for everybody on this site :lol:

  20. Think about it we could become one of those grey eminences an also ran, a club who have won nothing over the years….
    Wait a minute, this is beginning to sound familiar….
    A fan base who think success is a fifth place finish and something to aspire too, FFS !
    Are we really resigned to this ?

  21. Well lunch time, gonna take a nice long walk uptown to Patsy’s restuarant & pizzaria on 118th. and first, best pizza in town.
    Really missed certain foods readily available here, during the summer months when in Europe.

    Nice to be back, perfect weather, with hopefully an indian summer through mid November.

    Beats the hell outta raining for days on end, not to mention the resulting flooding in the UK.

    Who we got next ?

  22. Don’t know how many of you all are video-gamers, probably very few I would guess. But had to make the comment, cuz on no where else would they understand.

    Bought the new FIFA 13 game, and of course I choose to play exclusively with the Toon. Enter my first ever match on the new version, and having to hear Martin Tyler’s timeless voice utter the words “Welcome to the Sports Direct Arena” nearly made me vomit. I had yet to hear it yet, playing FIFA 12 and it still calling it St. James, but now to have it confirmed to me on one of my favorite ways to pass free time..about broke my spirit.

  23. hoosiertoon says:

    “Welcome to the Sports Direct Arena” nearly made me vomit”

    Thats why I dont go to SJP on a full stomach Hoosier :)

    Apparently on the Mackems v Villa there’s booing of Bent when he gets the ball ?

  24. Chuck we got reding reeding,reading,them guys,pardew might try a 4-1-1-1_-8 formation with harper upfront in a front 22….

  25. Can’t confirm that, not too many people choose to play with either of those teams..no one enjoys playing with absolute shite teams as those haha. But I will definitely check it out and let you know.

    The game itself is brilliant, you can even choose to do the Muslim prostration celebration for our Demba duo up front. Though they don’t exactly call it that..political correctness and all.

  26. chuck says:
    September 27, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    “Well lunch time, gonna take a nice long walk uptown to Patsy’s restuarant & pizzaria on 118th. and first, best pizza in town.
    Really missed certain foods readily available here, during the summer months when in Europe.”

    Aye Chuck, we hardly ever see Pizza over here in Europe. What does it taste like???

  27. Giving anyone a contract for 8 years is mental. If he wins a trophy though he can have a life contract.

    Saying that he’s still probably on £6.19 per hour, so if he is sacked the pay off will be minimal.

  28. Jimbob says:
    September 27, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    “Saying that he’s still probably on £6.19 per hour, so if he is sacked the pay off will be minimal.”

    Isn’t the minimum wage only £6.08 per hour Jimbob?

    You can bet your life that Ashley won’t have to pay off the length of the contract if he sacks Pardew. As I stated above, there’ll be a clause where he only gets £50, and a few Sports Direct vouchers if he’s lucky. You can also bet that there’ll be a huge confidentiality clause, so Pardew will never be able to reveal the truth behind the lies if Ashley changes his mind and decides to fire him next month.

    Incidentally, for all you betting folk out there who like a flutter, there should be some VERY good odds available on the Silver Supremo actually seeing out this contract.

  29. chuck says:
    September 27, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    “Think about it we could become one of those grey eminences an also ran, a club who have won nothing over the years….”

    Chuck, as you may know, “grey eminence” or “éminence grise” is an expression which goes back to the days of Cardinal Richlieu, and is someone who discreetly exercises great power behind the scenes, possibly in secret. Eight year contract or not, he has little real power and he’s a gobshite with a mouth like the Tyne Tunnel! :-)

    He is indeed “gris” though.

  30. Toonsy’s view on “NUFC MAD!!!”

    ‘Lewki’ wrote at 16:01 on 27 Sep:
    Surely there cannot be many fans unhappy with this. I haven’t even considered a managerial change.

    Toonsy: I’m sure those on nufcblog.org are getting suicidal about it right now. They really don’t like him on there B)

    re: Pardew signs new contract

    Toonsy: And as if by magic XD XD XD

    Apparently there signs of him not being up to the job, it’s not a real contract, and a list of successors is being drawn up by the natty idiots XD

    http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=386&fid=185&sty=2&act=1&mid=2114028344

    I wonder why the two faced little prick is so obsessed with this site, he just can’t help himself. I think he needs to get out more.

  31. That Llamibias speech has lifted me and imbued me with confidence!

    And how I hate that “XD” smiley.. usually turns out to be a teen on the end of them with all the answers.

  32. this is a masterstroke from ashley and co. now all we need is 16 year contracts to our superstars xisco, gosling, marveaux, obertan ,vuckic, and ranger.. this will give much required stability to the club

  33. maze202 says:
    September 28, 2012 at 3:01 am

    “And how I hate that “XD” smiley.. usually turns out to be a teen on the end of them with all the answers.”

    Toonsy is in his thirties maze.

  34. Raghav.nufc says:
    September 28, 2012 at 4:20 am

    “this is a masterstroke from ashley and co. now all we need is 16 year contracts to our superstars xisco, gosling, marveaux, obertan ,vuckic, and ranger.. this will give much required stability to the club”

    I don’t think that Ashley is too concerned about someone poaching Xisco, Raghav. This is probably the main reason why he’s offered it to Pardew and his coaching staff. After all, unlike Xisco, Pardew is on low wages, and it would be easy for another club to make him a better offer. Just so long as there is a clause in there restricting Pardew’s compensation should they choose to fire him.

  35. GS says:
    September 28, 2012 at 9:06 am

    “You haven’t seen this from Llambias yet??? Will cause a few comments I think”

    GS, Lee Ryder has been setting that one up for a while now. After reading everything coming out of Lille as the thing dragged on (and on), I do not believe it for a second. Llambias can’t seem to open his mouth for a second without some kind of lie escaping from it.

  36. A conspiracy theory! I am surprised you think Ryder has the brains to set it up. He may be a puppet but it is hard to keep up a narative for that long without making a mistake – he does them live blog chats you know.

  37. GS says:
    September 28, 2012 at 11:04 am

    “A conspiracy theory!”

    No, not some grand conspiracy theory GS, I don’t have time for those in general. Just dishonest PR, nothing to do with fake moon landings, JFK (Kennedy not Kinnear), or the Rothschilds!

  38. so the “matrix” are having a go at us, of course i’m not happy about the situation, because i think for myself, and not with a crowd.
    if people want to jump on this whole thing that is going on at barrack road, that’s their look out, but at the end of the day, it’s about opinions.
    i’m not going to slag people down because they have a different view.

    take the article in the daily mirror this morning, sorry but if someone was coming out with some of that waffle, there is no way, i’m taking that at face value.
    as usual dekka llamearse, has come up with a lot of convoluted crap.

    the stuff where he reckons because the manager and his staff are on long contracts, it will save them from a barracking, if they go through a bad patch.
    err, no it wont derek, it’s results business, so fans will call for their heads, if the are not performing.

    they were in for certain players, but they were too pricey, “if you can’t afford it, you can’t afford it”.
    “you find yourself saying a nother 3 million”, it’s called negotiation derek, all clubs do it, it’s called the transfer market.
    if you cannot afford these players, then why the f**k are you trying to sign them?
    move on to targets you can, ffs, it’s that easy.

    the bit when he started to talk about purple and grey players, on a chart, was enough for me, it’s managers jackets on, and fatboy and the gimp, back at the training ground, with their clipboards, again.

    he’s banging on about the instability at the club, him and his mate have caused most of it.
    they were responsible for having quite a few managers, in a short time, let alone freddie shepherd.
    now they’re trying to extricate themselves from the mess they have caused, and pass the buck.

    the shortening of the transfer window, put the tin hat on it, for me.
    so he wants even less time to do deals in the summer?
    or is it just to stop the fans of newcastle, moaning about the lack of activity?

    after all that rubbish, you are accused of being pessimistic, suicidal etc…
    i’m sorry, but that doesn’t add up, or wash with me.
    he says they’ve done their, “off the wall” phase, are you sure about that derek.
    every time they do anything, it’s way beyond, “off the wall”, as this latest episode, will give testament to.

  39. maze202 says:
    September 28, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    “Mourino talks EPL and a bit about Pardew.”

    Mourinho on the “Special One” maze. :-) Link didn’t work so I corrected it for you. Looks like it’s the right one?

  40. Fcking awful. There is no news about this club. Nothing you’d want to read or that will get you excited. Pure propaganda, all the time.

    GS-what do YOU think of the contents of that article? Throwing it out there while not appearing to be interested yourself is what I mean by “stir the pot.”

  41. “If you cannot afford these players, then why the f**k are you trying to sign them? – Move on to targets you can, ffs, it’s that easy”

    Sound common sense TJ, I said something similar during the summer. However, if we moved on to other, cheaper targets that would involve the Board eventually shelling out on some one. Whereas this way they dont have to spend anything – they just blame other clubs. Simples :)

    95% of this summer’s transfer hokum was just that !

    PS Dont worry about Toonsy WT at least he takes all the kh’s away from this site.

  42. ………..and before they make the usual anti fans comments about those that post on here, I’m off dahn sarf this evening to take in some intense drinking sessions and a visit to the MadStad tomorrow and paying Fatman not a penny for the pleasure :lol: )

  43. AndyMac says:
    September 28, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    “PS Dont worry about Toonsy WT at least he takes all the kh’s away from this site.”

    Aye, there is that I suppose Andy.

    ON the subject of Llambias and Debuchy, his latest smears will hardly go down to well with Lille if they find out, so it will hardly help if they were thinking of having another go for him in January (or any other Lille player for that matter). Like Lee Ryder before him, he’s basically accused them of being dishonest in their dealings with Newcastle United, and also in their statements to the media.

  44. lee ryder, i call him,”the cornflake kid”, as he sent for his journalism credentials, off the back of a cereal packet.
    well i think i’ll peruse tonights riveting edition of the,”chronic”, and see what todying, he’s up to today.

  45. Woikey
    You got pizza ?
    Yeah i tried it !
    Listen , it’s really hard to find a good pizza right here in the city.

  46. Hey folks, doncha know ?
    Ashley and Llambias, have it sussed!
    They are bringing a whole new approach to the game.
    Yep! the learning curve is over, they checked out who makes a profit and based their business plan on the Arsenal system.
    A good scouting system to begin with followed by lowball bids for youngsters guaranteed to become stars.
    Who can be sold on for big profits once they learn they are being exploited and refuse to sign any more lowball contracts.
    So we can forget about Debuchy, actually we couldda got Clyne for peanuts, one that got away.
    It’s really not much different from the retail business.
    The trick is in making it work.
    Looks like that’s where they got stuck, the devil being in the details.
    Ah well, if it were that easy, why would’nt every club employ the same system.
    Not saying it’s not the way to go, but it takes both a bit of negotiating skill plus a lotta luck and NUFC is not a side that is situated in London with a history of success, therefor a tougher sell.
    Ah well, lets see what happens?

  47. chuck says:
    September 28, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    “Woikey
    You got pizza ?”

    Yes Chuck, very nice pizza just down the road, but not a competent Broadband provider seemingly. More hours on the phone to Virgin f@cking Broadband listening to their bullshit again, and the match preview is delayed.

  48. Workey
    Yer! “Eminence Grise” the bloke in “The free musketeers” like.
    Could never figure why people called musketeers, ran around stabbing people with rapiers, when it wouldda been easier to shoot em with their muskets, puzzling ?
    And oh! by no means did i intend to imply Pardew “The grey Gadgie” was in anyway similar to the Cardinal.
    That could be interpreted as heresy, being Richlieu owned a brain.

  49. Worky
    Yeah, had the same problem with my provider this morning, sometimes it may be better to select a provider on their reliability history , rather than price.

  50. I’ve been with Virgin, who were cr*p and BT who were nearly as bad.

    I am now with the “Evil Empire” with the “Satellite Dishes” who are excellent.

    Incidently I have to say I think the cheap-ass players we have bought are looking good buys. Bigi and Anita have both impressed me.

    Hate to admit it but the transfer policy aint, imo, looking to bad.

    Also I do get suspicious about people who “Diss” (cool man :) ) conspiracy theories. They have to be part of an anti conspiracy, conspiracy

  51. chuck says:
    September 28, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    “Worky
    Yeah, had the same problem with my provider this morning, sometimes it may be better to select a provider on their reliability history , rather than price.”

    I’m not cheap, Chuck, if you don’t mind!

    My phone, TV and BB isn’t cheap either. My service used to be absolutely great, then it was taken over by Richard friggin’ Branson and everything started to go progressively downhill. However, being a designer who uploads and downloads and uploads lots of big stuff, I stayed with it on the basis of speed. When it IS working it is fast and doesn’t slow down too much at peak times due to high contention ratios, and it’s also unlimited too. Plus I also have my cable TV and phone in a big package and although I’m not cheap, it turns into daylight robbery if I get rid of the BB and just have the TV and phone. Many of the others are just as bad but I finally think I’ve had enough now.

    Aye Grumpy, but Murdoch is beyond the pale for me and they’re a bit slow if you’re a designer.

  52. Nah, chuck-a musket’s a complex weapon, basically a hand-held cannon. Also wildly inaccurate. Better and easier to stab someone.

    Wait, did I just write that?

    Grumpy-Anita was hardly a “cheapass” buy at 6M+ (pounds). That sort of fee can land you, say, Clint Dempsey and his consistent 10-20 goals from midfield. As several have pointed out here, it’s strange that we were willing to pony up for him but not Debuchy or Douglas. As for the transfer policy as a whole, it’s hard for me to see it as successful when we have a manager openly saying he’s forced into selections he doesn’t want to make…a month into the season.

  53. chuck says:
    September 28, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    “Yep! the learning curve is over, they checked out who makes a profit and based their business plan on the Arsenal system.”

    Chuck, I know I’ve wrritten this before but if they have a model, it’s far more likely to be Udinese in Serie A. They’re even a North East club who play in black and white stripes and sold their number 9 a while back for over £30 million.

    As you should know by now if Ashley and Llambias actually say something, you can pretty much rule it out as being true.

  54. tunyc says:
    September 28, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    “Nah, chuck-a musket’s a complex weapon, basically a hand-held cannon. Also wildly inaccurate. Better and easier to stab someone.”

    Also of course, swishing around with rapiers is far more dashing, romantic and Cavalier like than simply blowing opponents away with a miniature cannon.

  55. So true worky. There’s no romance to institutional violence anymore.

    It’ll be interesting to see if we can do the Udinese as well as the real thing now that ol’ Giampaolo owns Watford. Was it 9 or 11 players on loan from Udinese & Granada?!

  56. OK, I think Elliot should start tomorrow. I think he has earned it and I think Harper is past his sell by date.

    Perch should not start at right back although I think Pardew will put him there. My guess is Pardew will want Anita in the middle whereas I think Jonas should be put there and Ferguson or Marveaux given a chance on the left.

    I hope we play Ba and Cisse together. It is weird that it seems that they do not score in the same game. However, in a lot of games there were very near misses for both of them so I think it is just bad luck and will come good.

    Sorry, I had to bring the subject back to football as I don’t know very much about muskets and rapiers. And I do know that I am the biggest transgressor when it comes to bringing up irrelevant subjects on this board, so I am not criticising anybody :)

  57. I just don’t see the flaws in Harper’s game you do, GS. As far as having earned anything, Harper actually has been this club’s starting keeper in the PL for long stretches. Until he does something demonstrably wrong I think he’ll start league matches, as it should be. He is not past it-keepers can go longer than any other position. Friedel is keeping France’s #1 on the bench.

  58. Tunyc: I might be irrational about Harper, I don’t know. I will try not to get to the point of AndyMac type disdain for Obertan :) He makes some really good saves but when his positioning is off he just stands like a statue or falls over. Maybe, he wouldn’t have got to the ball anyway.

    People age differently as I am sure you are aware and some keepers are kept for their past contributions even though they are no longer up to it – David Seaman for example.

    It will all be a moot point after Reading as Krul will be back.

    In case you don’t know, the game isn’t on live but is on Fox Soccer late afternoon.

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