Newcastle United vs Bordeaux match highlights

Highlights of Newcastle United’s first Europa League group stage tie against Girondins de Bordeaux.

The first highlights are aroung 4 1/2 minutes long with English commentary and the second are longer 9 1/2 minute ones, but with French commentary.

A most satisfactory evening for the Magpies. After an excellent early chance for the visitors being spurned (poorly) by the usually excellent Polish playmaker, Ludovic Obraniak, it was the Magpies who dominated with some nicely composed play. First came a 16th minute strike from Euroslayer, Shola Ameobi, then an own goal from Bordeaux’s Henrique, and finally a third from Papiss Cisse. After spending hours writing two long pieces about how tough Bordeaux were going to be, they didn’t show up and made me look like a proper mug!

Nonetheless, credit to the lads for a far more entertaining display than they showed against Reading, two of the highlights being the excellent assists from Gabriel Obertan, and 12 year old Shane Ferguson, who has done himself no end of good in his last couple of performances.

In his post match interview, Alan Pardew had this to say:

“What pleased me most is that we played with verve and energy again. That is a good sign. We had to play very well to make that as comfortable as it was. We knocked the spirit out of them in terms of the clinical nature of our goals. That was a team that hasn’t been beaten for 17 games so that is a great result. For me as a manager, it was a perfect night.”

Teams and match facts.

Score / Goalscorers: Newcastle United 3 (Ameobi 16, Henrique (OG) 40, Cisse 49), Bordeaux 0.

Newcastle United (4-3-3 / 4-4-1-1): Rob Elliot (G, Steve Harper HT), Danny Simpson, Mike Williamson, James Perch, Shane Ferguson, Vurnon Anita, Cheick Tiote (Dan Gosling 71), Yohan Cabaye (Gael Bigirimana 61), Papiss Cisse, Shola Ameobi (C), Gabriel Obertan.

Subs: Steve Harper (G), Davide Santon, Gael Bigirimana, Dan Gosling, Hatem Ben Arfa, Sammy Ameobi, Demba Ba.

Bordeaux (4-4-2): Cedric Carrasso; Mariano, Henrique, Marc Planus, Benoit Tremoulinas; Henri Saivet, Ludovic Sane, Jaroslav Plasil (c), Ludovic Obraniak; Jussie, Yoan Gouffran (David Bellion 68).

Subs: Kevin Olimpa, Florian Marange, Matthieu Chalme, Abdou Traore, Landry N’Guemo, David Bellion, Cheick Diabate.

Yellow cards: Henrique (13), Cheick Tiote (20), Vurnon Anita (44), Landry N’Guemo (72).

Red cards: None.

Referee: Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz‎.

Attendance: 30,987.

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103 Responses to “Newcastle United vs Bordeaux match highlights”

  1. 1
    avatar GS says:

    Thanks for the highlights Worky. It was funny to see the new Shola tap that in with seeming disdain. And another assist from little Shane, we have to get him on the pitch more.

    Slightly off topic, but Panathinakos played a dinosaur today, Triantafyllopoulos.

    Jimbob, you make a really good point about playing at least one left footer on the left. Maybe it is just that little Shane is a good crosser, I don’t know.

  2. 2
    avatar GS says:

    So what do we do now? We have El Shola playing out of his skin and Cisse and Ba playing great when the other isn’t on the pitch.

    And see Worky, I said Harper would come good in the end :)

  3. 3
    avatar GS says:

    I think there is an imposter writing Louise Taylor’s reports. She was always so nasty about us in the past, now she is having a f2cking screaming orgasm about us.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/04/newcastle-bordeaux-europa-league-match-report

  4. 4
    avatar chuck says:

    Nice win, think, if we had a bigger squad we could have had a shot at winning this whachamacallit cup, ah well!
    At least Fergie is getting a start, though i would rather it were on the wing, as he knows how to feed our forwards.
    On saying that an out of position Obertan provided wor Shola with a perfect tap in
    Cabaye was also a welcome addition, missed his playmaking ability and fiesty defense.
    Finally the goal of the game was the own goal from a perfect Simpson cross, too bad the guy was wearing the wrong shirt.

  5. 5
    avatar Jonny Fabulous says:

    Chuck: I think there was more than one team wearing the wrong shirt. In The Grauniad piece I posted someone asked why we weren’t playing in black and white? At least one team were proud to wear bianco e nero tonight. I don’t know why I get pleasure from watching the bindippers get beat, but I do.

  6. 6
    avatar mrscruff says:

    Sweet result, and good to see Cisse developing some momentum. I’m pretty sure Fergie isn’t a wean (wee one), as they say in derry!

  7. 7
    avatar Jonny Fabulous says:

    Worky: what is going on with the highlights? Are the internet police somehow tracking you down?

  8. 8
    avatar workyticket says:

    Jonny Fabulous says:
    October 5, 2012 at 7:46 am

    “Are the internet police somehow tracking you down?”

    It’s not me that they’re tracking down. I’m just looking for some more which are longer than 48 seconds.

  9. 9
    avatar Jonny fabulous says:

    There are people saying on other NUFC blogs that lil Shane is too small. Have they not watched that Lionel Messi? Or that Peter Beardsley, or that Billy Bremner, or that Kevin Keegan, or that Kenny Dalglish, or even that Vernun Anita?

  10. 10
    avatar workyticket says:

    I’ve got two new sets of highlights now – 5 minute highlights with English commentary and 10 minute highlights, along with some daft Hungarian gadgie on a bike.

  11. 11
    avatar Jonny Fabulous says:

    thanks Worky, you are the best.

  12. 12
    avatar workyticket says:

    Why are you calling yourself “Jonny Fabulous” today?

  13. 13
    avatar GS says:

    Because I thought it would be funny.

  14. 14
    avatar Giovanni Faboloso says:

    I have this google translate thing now, so I will do it in Italian.

  15. 15
    avatar TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:

    pardew go it right last night with the balance of the side.
    what it did show you, was how much of a gap there is between the prem and la ligue.
    this side hadn’t been beaten for five months, who have they been playing against, “the raggy arsed rovers”?

    they looked good for the first 25 minutes, but they lacked ideas in the final third, and we restricted them to a couple of long range efforts.

    the first goal was well worked, with obertan putting the ball in first time, instead of his usual crap.
    that’s the most complete game i’ve seen shola have, held it up well, brought others into the game, and managed to be in the right place, as a striker, for the first.

    young ferguson should start more games, as he’s the best crosser of the ball, we have on the books.

    the own goal killed them, and we got the 3rd goal early in the second half, which turned the rest of the game, into a training match.

    old pardew was definately the “silver supremo” last night, for a change, although the opposition were overrated by most of the pundits, beforehand.
    i was saying they were no mugs, but they were nowhere near as good as some of the old bordeux sides.

    a good win, going into the salford utd game, on sunday, and we shouldn’t have any trouble dispatching club brugge.

  16. 16
    avatar Giovanni Favoloso says:

    TR73 it is getting good now. A couple more Shola specials and we will be set.

  17. 17
    avatar workyticket says:

    TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:
    October 5, 2012 at 11:28 am

    “pardew go it right last night with the balance of the side.
    what it did show you, was how much of a gap there is between the prem and la ligue.
    this side hadn’t been beaten for five months, who have they been playing against, “the raggy arsed rovers”?”

    Trojan, we played well, but honestly, that was a really bad night for them and they don’t play like that normally. I thought that Francis Gillot made a bit of a miscalculation when he sent them out as a 4-4-2.

  18. 18
    avatar Giovanni Favoloso says:

    4-4-2 Worky? Heresy I say, heresy.

  19. 19
    avatar workyticket says:

    Giovanni Faboloso says:
    October 5, 2012 at 11:23 am

    “I have this google translate thing now, so I will do it in Italian.”

    The Geordie translator usually works best for this site er “Giovanni”

    http://www.geordie.org.uk/

  20. 20
    avatar Jean Fabuleax says:

    Worky @19: that was funny.

  21. 21
    avatar Jean Fabuleax says:

    Worky @19: they aren’t very good at spelling or grammar or things like that man are they man?

  22. 22
    avatar Jean Fabuleax says:

    And they are realy not good at apostrophes :)

  23. 23
    avatar Jean Fabuleux says:

    I couldn’t even read my own handwriting :)

  24. 24
    avatar sampdiago says:

    BREAKING NEWS,obertan had a good game and crossed.

  25. 25
    avatar tunyc says:

    Their defense was shocking. Obertan’s cross was decent but he beats two men with the dribble and even then the other defender just has to step in front of Shola. They had us outnumbered 4-2 in the box. The second one-I have no idea what happened there. Henrique ignored his keeper’s shouts. The third one-ok, Cisse actually looks to be a bit offside but we’ll take it.

    And “Johnny”-the “too small” criticism is the sign of someone stuck in the 90s. Technical skill is where it’s at now. What’s that Spanish side full of elves again?

  26. 26
    avatar chuck says:

    Thats just bullshit about size.
    If you had bothered to take a look at some of those Barca five and a half footers, you might have noticed they are for the most part fairly stocky, certainly Messi is.
    That combined with a low center of gravity makes it difficult to push off the ball.
    As for Ferguson, by now most will be aware i have been advocating his case for some time.
    But thats not to say the guy could’nt do with an increase in upper body strength.
    A couple of years ago he was or looked quite frail, with a body that looked like a fifteen year old kid.
    Since then he has obviously filled out and has added a bit of size (probably by working out)
    But it certainly does’nt hurt to add a bit of muscle to ones frame as there’s no advantage in being a lightweight.

  27. 27
    avatar chuck says:

    Jean Fabuleaux
    Yes indeed i agree about wearing the black and white stripes.
    My understanding of away strips was to avoid a clash of colors, or should i say to avoid playing against sides who wear a similar strip, (West Brom?)
    Guess it’s all about selling an extra couple of strips, if you already have the home shirt.

  28. 28
    avatar workyticket says:

    chuck says:
    October 5, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    “Jean Fabuleaux”

    Chuck, just call him GS, or alternatively, daft c*nt.

  29. 29
    avatar GS says:

    I am sort of liking this midweek football lark, as long as we win. This weekend could be good what with Manchester and El Chasico. I hope Van Persie catches the plague or at least a cold.

  30. 30
    avatar GS says:

    Worky: I think Chuck is smart enough to know it was me.

  31. 31
    avatar TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:

    some of the best footballers you have ever seen, are nearly always short in stature.
    like somebody mentioned, it’s the better centre of gravity, that does the trick.
    i dont want to go off base too much, but does anyone watch rugby league?
    there is a lad called rob burrow, who plays scrum half, for leeds rhinos.
    he is 5ft7, and weighs ten and half stones, in a sport populated by big lumps of blokes.
    he compensates for that, with his speed and skills.
    it doesn’t matter how tall you are, you just have to have the talent.

    i was thinking we could use ferguson as an out and out winger, and forget about him playing fullback.
    just let him get forward, and swing them crosses in, that’s all he has to do, for me.

  32. 32
    avatar GS says:

    It is your blog though, so police it as you like. It is a pity you banned Clint though, he is a funny fukka.

  33. 33
    avatar GS says:

    And Worky, I know you didn’t ban Clint.

  34. 34
    avatar GS says:

    Did I ever tell you about taking my nephew to The Tower of London when he was about 5. He looked at the lances and said to his Dad “why do they have these giant pool cues in here?”

  35. 35
    avatar AndyMac says:

    OK I’m always happy to see us win 3-0 but wtf stop at 3 ????

    Pardwho does this time and time again. Started with 4-3-3 then, as soon as he thinks we’re struggling (which we werent) he switches to 4-4-2.

    Then takes off cabaye (which was a good thing in view of Sunday) and replaces him with Bigi !!!! So no chance of going forward for any more goals after that.

    The feckin bloke does my head in when he should be giving them the confidence to go forward and score a bucket full.

    Shola said afterwards

    “You could see they were a good side. The manager said before the game that he wanted us to take the game to them early on. They were a little bit shell-shocked the way we came out. We really took the game to them”

    “It was like a breath of fresh air for us, because at times this season we haven’t hit that top form”

    Is it any fecking wonder why the players haven’t hit top form ?

  36. 36
    avatar GS says:

    AndyMac: You were there and must have had a good time. I will take 3-nil to the Toon any time.

  37. 37
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Overall it was a good night GS but the point I’m making is that Pardwho’s cautious approach to games is detrimental to these players particularly when the likes of Shola say “It (4-3-3) was like a breath of fresh air for us”

    Pardwho should have the balls to let his players take the game to their opponents instead of hunkering down with a malfunctioning midfield that doesnt work the way he wants it too.

    BTW Fergie aint a LB ever but he does put in a lovely cross :)

  38. 38
    avatar workyticket says:

    TROJAN RECORDS 73 says:
    October 5, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    “some of the best footballers you have ever seen, are nearly always short in stature.”

    Not necassarily, Trojan. Some are small, some are in the middle and some aren’t so small, just as in any walk of life. For every little Garrincha, Zico, Messi, Pele, Maradona there’s a 6 ft Zidane, Laudrup, Cruyff, Ronaldo(s), Ronaldinho blah blah…

  39. 39
    avatar GS says:

    AndyMac :) will you ever call him Pardew? I read this blog and you never miss, it is always Pardwho :)

  40. 40
    avatar GS says:

    And Worky, I am not being a dick to you, I am just being me. If that is a dick …..

  41. 41
    avatar GS says:

    AndyMac: we had a malfunctioning midfield last night? That Cabaye cross to Obertoon was magnificent.

    Some of that Shola skill explained why Bobby Robson rated him so highly, and Cisse’s goal???

    We are good to watch now, and Ben Arfa wasn’t even playing.

  42. 42
    avatar GS says:

    Someone once tried to teach me accrual accounting, it was like hell in a box.

  43. 43
    avatar AndyMac says:

    GS says:

    “AndyMac: we had a malfunctioning midfield last night? That Cabaye cross to Obertoon was magnificent”

    My reference to a malfunctioning midfield is when we play 4-4-2 and expect service to the front two from two wide men who cant cross for shlte.

    Jonas and HBA shouldnt be expected to play in wide roles its OK for Fergie cos he can cross a ball and maybe Obertan if he manages to string more than one decent game together ?

  44. 44
    avatar chuck says:

    GS
    I’d have to hve been pretty dumb not to figure it out , especially as WT had just asked you as to why you were using a different handle.
    It’s just his didactic nature coming to the fore again.
    It’s a bit like ye knaa, a control thing, combined with a nurturing thing, but then we all have our little idiosyncracies.

  45. 45
    avatar chuck says:

    Just because someone has played a certain role for a period of time does’nt mean he is best suited for that role.
    IMO both Fergie as a defender and Jonas as a winger were both playing in the wrong spot.
    Fergie is a much more productive as a winger and i would also like to see him try out as an inside midfielder.
    Whereas Jonas i believe is better suited to play as a DM, being his finishing as a winger is both predictable and often poor.
    He is more productive defensively and can run all day.
    And i would like to see Santon in the role of right winger.
    His natural style appears to be in an attacking role and he being naturally right footed, like Jonas, tends to cut to-wards the center in order to get the ball on his good foot.
    That would not be the case if we played him on the right however.
    But the what do i know ?

  46. 46
    avatar chuck says:

    Shola is an important cog in the side, he fits in well behind the striker, can hold the ball up well, his passing has been almost perfect and knows where the goal is.
    He may not at this stage be a ninety minute player, but can be an important twenty minute man.
    Ooooh Shola Ameobi !
    And we have to remember he’s a local lad.

  47. 47
    avatar workyticket says:

    chuck says:
    October 5, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    “It’s just his didactic nature coming to the fore again.”

    Chuck, to quote Tennessee Williams, there comes a time when you look into the mirror and you realise that what you see is all that you will ever be. And then you accept it. Or you kill yourself. Or you stop looking in mirrors.

    You obviously stopped looking in mirrors quite some time ago.

  48. 48
    avatar GS says:

    Chuck: you like that word “didactic” and it would apply to a lot of people on blogs, myself not excepted.

  49. 49
    avatar GS says:

    Chuck: I am also trying to figure out how to fit in Santon on the right wing without dropping King Ben Arfa or p$ssing off Ba and Cisse by alternating them in games?

    Both Ba and Ben Arfa seem to get the lip on if they don’t start every game, so the silver haired one would have a problem I think.

  50. 50
    avatar GS says:

    Worky: since I have been on your site today under a few different names I am going to start referring to myself as “we”, you know, like Ed does :)

  51. 51
    avatar GS says:

    And, what was this conspiracy stuff that Cabaye wasn’t playing well because his “buddy” Debuchy wasn’t signed. I’ll be surprised if I hear that again.

  52. 52
    avatar GS says:

    Worky: Tennesee Williams seems to be very quotable. Here’s another one “All cruel people describe themselves as paragons of frankness”.

  53. 53
    avatar sampdiago says:

    Love jonas,but would love to see ferguson start on sunday.cisse has scored two goals for us this season,both from fergusons crosses.

  54. 54
  55. 55
    avatar GS says:

    Are Cisse and Ba too similar to put in the same team?

  56. 56
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    October 6, 2012 at 10:08 am

    “Are Cisse and Ba too similar to put in the same team?”

    Do you mean are Cisse and Ba too similar to score goals in the same team GS? If so, that’s a slightly different question.

  57. 57
    avatar Grumpy Old-Toon says:

    HBA has to start every game, he is our Lionel Messi. Obertan will show more consistancy if he gets a run of games under his boots and Shola for me is the current hot player for us and should start every game with Ba.

    Pardew should have the b*lls to play Cisse or Ba off the bench as the need arises and b*gger their ego’s.

    Having said all of that I would like to see Ferguson chosen before Jonas or Oberton as first choice but that might be a bit too risky for Pardew.

  58. 58
    avatar Grumpy Old-Toon says:

    Speaking of low centres of gravity I wonder how “Tyrion Lannister” would fare as a player. Love to see him going into a scrum with an axe in his belt. :)

  59. 59
    avatar workyticket says:

    Grumpy Old-Toon says:
    October 6, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    “HBA has to start every game, he is our Lionel Messi. Obertan will show more consistancy if he gets a run of games under his boots and Shola for me is the current hot player for us and should start every game with Ba.

    Pardew should have the b*lls to play Cisse or Ba off the bench as the need arises and b*gger their ego’s.

    Having said all of that I would like to see Ferguson chosen before Jonas or Oberton as first choice but that might be a bit too risky for Pardew.”

    Aye Grumpy, but don’t most of those things kind of contradict each other? For example, if Benny must start every game, and Ferguson must be chosen before Obertan (even though they usually play on different sides), then how does Obertan get a run of games? You say that Amoeobi must start every game with Ba, but then you say that Pardew must have the balls to play Cisse or Ba off the bench and so on…

  60. 60
    avatar workyticket says:

    Premiership “long ball” league for this season so far, “long balls” being passes of 25 yards or over:

    Top three

    1) Reading – 17%
    2) Stoke – 17%
    3) Newcastle United – 17%

    Bottom three

    Liverpool – 11%
    Swansea – 9%
    Arsenal – 7%

  61. 61
    avatar Grumpy Old-Toon says:

    Worky, contadiction, yes and no. HBA starting every game is an obvious to me.

    Obertan obviously isn’t going to get an extended run-out unless there are injury problems or Pardew decides to give him one (an extended run ;) ). He was playing left side (in the truncated highlight I saw of the Bordeaux game) and looked well up for it.

    Ba and Cisse together for me is a curates egg situation, sometimes brilliant others not so much. Whereas either playing with Shola looks to be working well and Ba at the moment is the form striker.

    As for the Pardew “B*lls” comment no player should be more important than the team and a manager should manage.

    Don’t know if that clarifies my thinking. :)

  62. 62
    avatar GS says:

    Shola has become a bruiser now, he bangs the opposition around with a smile on his face. As for Ba and Cisse, they score such wonderful goals, as a fan you would always want them in your team. And Ben Arfa :):):)

    I could say that I don’t really care if we win when I see the skill that these players have. But, I would be lying and want us to win, especially tomorrow.

  63. 63
    avatar GS says:

    And the Mackems actually played OK and lost 3-0. That makes me happy Chuck, you just don’t understand :)

  64. 64
    avatar workyticket says:

    Yes Grumpy, that does clarify your thinking a bit, and aye, you’re right, Obertan was shoved on the left after around half and hour when Pardew switched his formation to a 4-4-1-1 or 4-4-2 or whatever. It also clarifies that managers have diffucult choices to make sometimes.

    Ferguson has looked great in his brief time on the pitch this season, but it’s the usual story with fickle Toon fans. Someone plays for years in a position and never lets the team down, then someone comes in and makes one or two good cameo appearences and all of a sudden hundreds of games can count for nothing in comparison to one or two good games by the player they are less familiar with.

  65. 65
    avatar GS says:

    Worky @64: What are you talking about? I haven’t seen anybody on here say bad things about Jonas. We all appreciate what he does. Chuck says maybe he should switch positions and I have said that lil Shane should get more playing time. That is different to saying “all of a sudden hundreds of games can count for nothing in comparison to one or two good games”.

  66. 66
    avatar GS says:

    And another thing. Please Arsenal hammer West Ham. I just like to see a more miserable Sam Allardyce.

  67. 67
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    October 6, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    “Worky @64: What are you talking about? I haven’t seen anybody on here say bad things about Jonas.”

    I never wrote that but never mind GS. Anyway, I seen a few of the usual cliches about him here (all that “no end product” stuff etc), just as I have on other blogs.

  68. 68
    avatar AndyMac says:

    GS says:

    “And, what was this conspiracy stuff that Cabaye wasn’t playing well because his “buddy” Debuchy wasn’t signed. I’ll be surprised if I hear that again”

    GS Yohan was up for it because it was Bordeaux and he wanted to make an impression on the watching frogs. He’ll be up for the Mancs as well as that’ll be shown nationwide in Frogland !

    workyticket says:

    Premiership “long ball” league for this season so far, “long balls” being passes of 25 yards or over:

    Top three

    1) Reading – 17%
    2) Stoke – 17%
    3) Newcastle United – 17%

    Thats why you give the bloke an 8 year contract ?

  69. 69
    avatar AndyMac says:

    Best match of the day was at the Liberty IMO. Cracking game

    http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/swansea-2-reading-2/

    and your two favourites clawed them back into the game Fanboy :)

  70. 70
    avatar AndyMac says:

    and before I head off for the neet, when we discussed the line up for Sunday against the Mancs in the pub last night, we came to the conclusion that if it wasnt for the Fatmans fecking frugality we could easily have had a line up to match SAF’s in EVERY position.

    Harps
    Simmo (Debuchy) Centre Back, Colo, Santon
    Anita, Tiote
    HBA, Cabaye, LAM
    Ba or Cisse or Shola or AC

  71. 71
    avatar workyticket says:

    AndyMac says:
    October 6, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    “workyticket says:

    Premiership “long ball” league for this season so far, “long balls” being passes of 25 yards or over:”

    Perception is a funny thing. When Hughton was manager, we were bang smack in the middle of the long ball league by the same definition according to MOTD, yet the special needs section of the fanbase kept yelling about him being a boring “long ball” manager and subsequently, how Pardew was a breath of fresh air with his entertaining, flowing, passing style of play. The only reason they said that was because Andy Carroll is 6’4″ and Shola’s 6’2″. It completely overrode what they were actually seeing in the games.

  72. 72
    avatar workyticket says:

    AndyMac says:
    October 6, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    “and your two favourites clawed them back into the game Fanboy”

    Who’s two favourites, and who are these two favourites anyway?

    I am on with your thing BTW.

  73. 73
    avatar workyticket says:

    AndyMac says:
    October 6, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    “workyticket says:

    Premiership “long ball” league for this season so far, “long balls” being passes of 25 yards or over:”

    Breaking news – Some other fans have seen this and apparently, it’s all the fault of Mike Williamson. That’s the thanks he gets for being one of the best Newcastle United performers in recent games, and that isn’t just me, I also saw him making a Premiership team of the week somewhere.

  74. 74
    avatar GS says:

    Worky @73: I agree with you fully on Willaimson. It is a syndrome of some fans to always want someone else that they saw on you tube. Ed is always inserting players like Douglas into our team at the expense of Williamson.

    Now, Douglas could be great for all I know because I haven’t seen enough of him (and he is playing in a weaker league).

    Pardwho has Williamson playing to his strengths. He is keeping it simple and playing easy passes or hoofing it. I wish he would score though, he seems to get a lot of opportunities. That’s just a minor complaint as I think he has done a good job.

  75. 75
    avatar GS says:

    Worky @72: it was lil Wayne and Michu. I am watching it now.

    And Allardyce, how can a man always look so miserable, all the time? You would think somebody had stuck a wasp up his ars* before every game.

  76. 76
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    October 6, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    “Now, Douglas could be great for all I know because I haven’t seen enough of him (and he is playing in a weaker league).

    Pardwho has Williamson playing to his strengths. He is keeping it simple and playing easy passes or hoofing it.”

    I know which Dutch defender I wanted, Vertonghen, no doubt about it, and I would have been prepared to go quite a bit higher than what Spurs eventually paid too. He’s got everything. Sometimes you can bid very high on something and still get a bargain.

    Williamson’s an old school clear his lines defender, and he hasn’t undergone some great transformtion under Pardew, he has always kept it simple.

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    avatar GS says:

    GS @75: I just realised why Allardyce always looks so miserable, he has to watch his own team play.

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    avatar GS says:

    Worky: there were a couple of games last season when Williamson was trying to be like Coloccini, then he stopped. I was trying to give Pardwho a bit of credit to see what AndyMac would say :) Anyway, sorry if I have been a bit snippy recently, I think it is US politics getting on my nerves and me transferring that to other parts of my life.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    October 6, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    “I think it is US politics getting on my nerves and me transferring that to other parts of my life.”

    Your old mate, Chomsky, thinks that Obama is worse than his predessor.

    Bush torturer, Obama just kills:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5pur4-dfiY

    Have you heard about Jimmy Savile over there?

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    avatar workyticket says:

    In some ways, Roberto di Matteo is the new Alan Pardew. Just as Pardew benefitted from all the groundwork put in by Hughton before he was sacked, so the excellent new Chelsea players and style we’ve seen this season is the fruition of AVB’s rebuilding of the club.

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    avatar GS says:

    Worky @79: that was me posting the article under the name “Al”. I thought you had banned me and was trying another name to see if you had :)

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    avatar GS says:

    Worky @80: They may be excellent, but they didn’t come cheap.

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    avatar chuck says:

    Workey
    I guessed you were refering to me in both the Jonas and Williamson digs.

    In that case if GS got what i said about Jonas , how come you chose to ignore what i actually stated, which was, yes I do believe Jonas lacks end product in the role of winger, and yes both he and Santon, for the most part are predictible in the fact they both cut to-wards the center of the park, to get the ball onto their best foot (both right footed playing on the left)

    But i also mentioned, Jonas is best played as a defensive center fielder who plays a a good defensive game and can run all day.

    If you dont agree , then look at his stats, completed crosses and goal production, which are the essential reasons players are chosen for that role.

    As for Santon, i certainly dont rate him highly as a defender, as he spends most of his time in an attacking role, so give the guy a chance to see if he can play on the right wing, where he doesnt have to cut in, to get the ball on his good foot.

    There has been a history of wingers and defenders exchanging or playing both roles at times.
    Coleman at Everton and Bale at Spurs to mention two of the most recent.

    As for your continual defence of of Williamson, your flogging a dead horse there mate, he will never be (as Souness would describe it) “A proper player”, rgardless of how you continue to praise him.

    And as far as he being chosen as a member of the PL team of the week, or something.
    I would certainly take that with a grain of salt, i mean they gave manager of the year to Pardew, for a fifth place finish, did’t they ?

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    avatar GS says:

    This may be the wrong forum but I don’t get the Jimmy Savile thing. People say it was normal in Rome, but it doesn’t make it right.

    I don’t have these secret perversions and I am a bit shocked when they are revealed. It seems just about every ’70s celebrity has them Glitter, Barrymore, Harry Redknapp.

    Messing around with kids just doesn’t make sense to me.

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    avatar chuck says:

    Worky @ 80#
    I hope that’s a tongue in cheek statement.
    It should be obvious to all Di Matteo, with his tactical nous was responsible to a great degree for Chelsea’s European Championship run.
    And has continued to be the most successful manager in the EPL.
    As for Pardew and Hughton, the latter was a successful defensive coach for a number of years, while Pardew was getting clubs relegated and being fired.
    And yes Dimatteo was fired also from his last job, which kinda proves you are only as good as the horses you got.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    chuck says:
    October 6, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    “Workey
    I guessed you were refering to me in both the Jonas and Williamson digs.”

    No, I was referring to quite a few people.

    GS, I thought that everyone knew already about Gary Glitter, Jonathan King and Jimmy Savile. He’s dead now anyway so he won’t be doing it any more. Don’t see the point of raking over it all now in public, except for entertainment value which in itself is warped.

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    avatar GS says:

    Tabloids though Worky. I watched Sean Custis on Sky last night reading the papers and his voice was so annoying as to be totally annoying. Smug cnut were the only words I could come up with.

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    avatar GS says:

    But, we are playing Manchester tomorrow and it will be great. Two good teams, us and them. It will be great.

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    avatar Phisix says:

    WONGA!!

    You guys heard?

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    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    October 7, 2012 at 12:22 am

    “Tabloids though Worky.”

    Did you read over there about the time when the old News of the World was just completely obsessed with paedophilia. Eventually, a posse of NOTW readers went and burned down someone’s house because they’d heard he was a PAEDIATRICIAN.

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    avatar GS says:

    Is that true?

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Phisix says:
    October 7, 2012 at 12:29 am

    “WONGA!!

    You guys heard?”

    I was just reading about it in the Torygraph Phisix. So if true, that would be the Wonga Arena, sponsored by a company which has driven people to suicide through charging them interest rates of over 4500%. That would be nice.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    October 7, 2012 at 12:34 am

    “Is that true?”

    Is what true GS, the Wonga Arena or the NOTW readers torching a Paediatrician’s house?

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    avatar chuck says:

    Soh ! as if Sports Direct was’nt bad enough, we are now being subjected to having the former venerable “St. James’ Park” renamed after a loan shark organization.
    Lovely !

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    avatar chuck says:

    GS @79
    I got lost in the U-Tube stuff, Hitchins, Chomsky, Ayn Rand,Bill Buckley, interesting.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    If it is true, then Wonga would seem to have a thing about sponsoring Geordies. Perhaps it’s because they think we’re all feckless and poverty stricken.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/labour-mp-urges-ant-and-dec-to-speak-out-against-wongacom-sponsoring-the-duos-itv1-game-show-red-or-black-8015281.html

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    avatar chuck says:

    By the way, no one mentioned the fact that Obertan played on the left wing during the few games he got for Man. U.
    And according to a lot of those commenting, we have more than just a fixed eleven.
    With some commenting if this guy plays here, where are we going to play the other guy ?
    The real problem is we dont have enough squad of talented players.
    We have a heavy duty schedule coming up and we should be playing as many of the squad as we can , without sending out a weakened squad, so there’s should be opportunities for all.
    As for shifting people around, they are all professionals
    and should be able to fill most roles other than the one generall designated.
    Who knows we may find someone better suited to a position other than that usually designated to him.
    I think for instance, Jonas is far better suited to a DM role, face it, while playing in his usual LW spot, his best work was done while covering for both Enrique and Santon, who in fact were much more effective as attacking wing backs than he was as a winger.

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    avatar chuck says:

    Yes, someone mentioned Vertonghen, who has proven to be an excellent buy, also mentioning we would still have got a bargain by offering more money for him.
    Though i doubt if it would have made much difference, as i believe he had his sights set on a London club and could have gone to more than one.
    Of course, that matters little when taking into account the fact Ashley is just not about to spring for that kinda money, was really surprised when he spent the money on Cisse.
    And yeah i hope they realise Douglas was a player we couldda used, now that we are reduced to Williamson and Perch filling in.
    But dont despair, we may get him or someone similar come the winter window, as we may be struggling by then and we know that fear of relegation, goes a long way in shaking loose a few bob.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Hang on, is this Wonga Arena thing PR psychology to make the S_____ D______ A____ actually sound like the lesser of two evils?

    Also, that Telegraph story says the deal is for £8 million per annum for shirt AND stadium sponsorship, yet the Virgin deal was supposedly £10 million for shirts only. That’s a bit fishy.

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    avatar GS says:

    Look, I know that people on here like to say Pardew is shite and Ashley is just in it for the money (certainly not for esteem, as he still gets a lot of grief) and that Carr deserves all the credit. But, how can this all be true?

    Somehow we are just lucky? Pardew is lucky when we play well against Bordeaux? Ashley exploits Asian workers but all of you with iphones and Toon tops are complicit in doing the same thing.

    We are playing in a league where the absolute scum of the earth are buying success. I would suggest that maybe Ashley isn’t that bad.

    Pardew puts out attacking teams. He plays Ba, Ben Arfa and Cisse in the same team. We get to see individual moments of brilliance, and that is all we have usually seen as NUFC fans.

    To be sure, it would be great to have Messi, and Rinus Michels as manager. But we are Newcastle United and only for fleeting moments have we had success in the past 50 years.

    Until Pardew puts out Allardyce type teams I am going to back him.

    I saw Man U play in Chicago a year ago. There were a lot of fans with those green and gold scarves and you have to wonder whether people just like to moan. They had just won the league and their fans still wern’t happy.

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    avatar GS says:

    Since it is late and only Worky is probably awake I’ll finish my rant. Most teams are now owned by exploiters. I could list them, but let’s just stay with West Ham and Chelsea. You know this, Porn Kings and and a corrupt politician.

    F@ck, we are close to electing an egregious tax cheat here in America.

    The world seems to have been taken over by these people. I don’t know if I even have a point now, as if they are all as bad as each other we would be better off with Abamovich because at least he wins stuff :)

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    avatar GS says:

    GS @101: I don’t think I would be a good debater as I think I ended up arguing against the points I was making @100 :)

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    avatar GS says:

    I was just watching Fox Soccer Channel and they were comparing Man U’s forward line to ours. Their conclusion was “I think I will take United’s”.

    I know there is the Man United and Man City bit to this and that Man U are such a big club that they probably deserve to be called “United”. But, if your job is to be a sports reporter and to not see there is something wrong in what you are saying when 2 “uniteds” play each other, you have to be a bit thick?

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