Liverpool vs Newcastle United match banter!

Posted on November 4th, 2012 | 104 Comments |

Liverpool v Newcastle United
Time to break the Anfield hoodoo!
Venue: Anfield, Liverpool.
Date: Sunday, 4th November.
Kick off: 4:00pm
Referee: Anthony Taylor (Manchester).
UK TV: Sky Sports.

Hello, good afternoon and welcome to our “match banter” feature for this afternoon’s away game against the Scousers.

As you may know already, Anfield has been an awful hunting ground for the Magpies in recent times, and you’d have to go back to the the days of the permed one’s “Entertainers” to find our last victory on the red side of Merseyside, and even that was in the League Cup! That was a 0-1 fourth round victory on Wednesday 29th November, 1995. Some of you will also remember that this was also the year which saw the first of two classic 3-4 Premiership encounters at Anfield (with the next one happening the season after). The first one, in April 1996, is of course regarded by many as one of the finest Premiership games ever, and was only settled with a goal by Stan Collymore in the second minute of stoppage time. For our last Premiership victory, you have to go all the way back to 16 April 1994, when we chalked up a 0-2 victory with Andy Cole and Rob Lee doing the honours on that occaision. Andy Cole scored a total of 41 goals in 46 games that season, which wasn’t a bad effort.

That was then, and this is now though, with this afternoon seeing Brendan Rodgers’s tippy-tappy football pitted against Alan Pardew’s more traditional mortar fire approach. Like Reading’s Brian McDermott, Rodgers is another manager who served under the Silver Supremo at Reading, McDermott as a chief scout and Rodgers as a youth coach. Rodgers subsequently went on to manage the Royals for a short period, but with no success. Pardew said of their time together at Reading:

“We were both confident in our own ways, but I genuinely thought he would be a coach rather than a manager. He has a natural association with the coaching ground, and those who watch “Being Liverpool” (a comedy series on Channel 5 -wt) would sense that, he’s sort of evolved into a manager more so. I always felt I was the other type, and I actually did think of Brendan as a coach at a few of my other clubs but he’s found his own route and fair play to him.”

Whilst McDermott has stayed true to the more direct style he learned under Pardew at Reading, Rodgers has since famously adopted more of a passing style, and today’s game should see an interesting tactical battle between the two ex colleagues, but I’ll leave it at that. For a considerably more in depth look forward to this afternoon’s game, I would suggest that you could do far worse than check out my collegue AndyMac’s excellent and extensive match preview, which should fill you in with everything you’ll want to know.

So, I wrap up with the usual reminders that I will be putting the team sheets up below this post when they become available. This match will be broadcast live on Sky Sports in the UK, but I will also be posting some links for those who can’t get it, as well as posting highlights, and possibly a video of the whole match when it’s all over.

Howay the Lads!

Team sheets.

Liverpool (4-2-3-1): Brad Jones (G), Andre Wisdom, Martin Skrtel, Daniel Agger, Jose Enrique; Joe Allen, Nuri Sahin; Raheem Sterling, Steven Gerrard (C), Suso, Luis Suarez.

Subs: Peter Gulacsi (G), Sebastian Coates, Jamie Carragher, Jordan Henderson, Jonjo Shelvey, Oussama Assaidi, Stewart Downing.

Newcastle United (4-4-2): Tim Krul (G), Vurnon Anita, Steven Taylor, Fabricio Coloccini (C), Davide Santon, Hatem Ben Arfa, James Perch, Yohan Cabaye, Jonas Gutierrez, Papiss Cisse, Demba Ba.

Substitutes: Steve Harper (G), Shane Ferguson, Mike Williamson, Gael Bigirimana, Gabriel Obertan, Sammy Ameobi, Shola Ameobi.

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104 Responses

  1. toontony says:
    November 4, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    “Isn’t it a bit early this time worky? I don’t think that the match starts until 4?”

    Correct toontony, I’ve bollocksed this post up completely. It was scheduled to go out at 3pm, but even when I realised the mistake, I didn’t change it back. I’ll see how it goes posting it an hour earlier than normal anyway.

  2. CLOWN FOOLGLISH has destroyed Liverpool football club :-( How can an idiot pay £82 Million pounds for Carroll Henderson downing Adam :-( Worst manager EVER in premier league…And I’m a lpool fan,but hate that scumbags guts ;-( set us back twenty years ? So much dead wood at anfield,it’s untrue…Carroll Henderson downing spearing cole Carragher ;-( Even Borini is a joke for £12 million pounds ? Get RAFA back ASAP ;-)

  3. Dean Jones u sound like a prick bet you aint even been to liverpool, slag of dalglish u f*ckin muppet go support swindon or wherever the fuck ur from.

  4. Dean Jones, I’m surprised to hear a Liverpool fan say that about King Kenny. I’m a Newcastle fan and think he’s a grumpy old sod, but don’t ever forget what a magnificent player he was for you, arguably the best ever, and also the trophies he won for you as both a player and manager (though I think he did have a little help from Paisley as a manager). He did win the League Cup last season though too.

    You should be looking at Comolli the Clown for your transfer mistakes Dean. He already had form for overriding the better judgement of managers in that sort of thing (Jol at Spurs), and buying players who were inappropriate. Comolli has been one of the most overrated idiots in football, though perhaps not now after bollocksing up two great clubs for a while.

  5. worky wasn’t it Comolli who got Jol sacked for that Spanish manager who took them down to the bottom of the Premiership?

  6. Sorry workyticket ? FOOLGLISH wanted the tripe he bought,END OF ? The way he had the team playing just said he didn’t have a clue,week in week out he kept playing the likes of Henderson downing Carroll Adam ;-( And then he goes and tops it by giving Spearing a new contract ;-( CLOWN FOOLGLISH has destroyed LFC,downing Henderson even Carroll won’t leave due to high wagers & going to a lesser club ? But we are a mid table club now,FOR SURE and it’s due to the CLOWN FOOLGLISH…And I hate the man for it,and I’m not the only scouser who feels like this ;-(

  7. toontony says:
    November 4, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    “worky wasn’t it Comolli who got Jol sacked for that Spanish manager who took them down to the bottom of the Premiership?”

    Aye toontony, Ramos from Sevilla. Comolli the Clown was so stupid, he didn’t realise that it was actually Sevilla’s technical director who was behind much of Sevilla’s success at the time, so he just took Ramos and left the technical director, who’s name escapes me at present? What a clown! :lol:

  8. Dean jones says:

    “Sorry workyticket ? FOOLGLISH wanted the tripe he bought,END OF ? The way he had the team playing just said he didn’t have a clue,week in week out he kept playing the likes of Henderson downing Carroll Adam ;-( And then he goes and tops it by giving Spearing a new contract ;-( CLOWN FOOLGLISH has destroyed LFC,downing Henderson even Carroll won’t leave due to high wagers & going to a lesser club ? But we are a mid table club now,FOR SURE and it’s due to the CLOWN FOOLGLISH…And I hate the man for it,and I’m not the only scouser who feels like this ;-(”

    I kind of agree Dogleash may have been an LFC legend as a player but, like Shearer, he wasnt the greatest manager in the world !

  9. Dean, even it it was Dalglish’s fault, and I would still blame Comolli mostly, I wouldn’t write about Dalglish like that if I were a Liverpool fan after all that he has done for the club in the past. We have great ex players such as Shearer and Beardsley, but none of them have done as much for Newcastle United as Dalglish did for Liverpool.

  10. What can I say ! Pardwho’s magic formula is set to start at Anfield :(

    Ba and Cisse upfront and Anita at RB

  11. It’s pure speculation that Comoli was responsible for te disasterous buying spree and even if he bears a certain responsibility, so does Dalglish.
    Just because Dalglish was a great player and a somewhat successful manager (with inherited sides i might add)
    does’nt relieve him of the responsibility of being willing to spend enormous amounts of money on what turned out to be a side that never jelled.
    That plus the fact he rivals Pardew as a tactician, playing an outdated style of football.
    We all understand throwing money at sides does’nt always work, a good manager is whats needed, someone who has the nous to build a good side.
    Look at Man. Citeh, before Mancini, Chelsea after Morinho, the present QPR side and face it Sunderland have not been shy in throwing money around.
    There’s truth to what Dean Jones says, though couched in a pretty tough language.

  12. AndyMac @16: I usually get better information on here than on wiki.

    Have you decided that Ba and Cisse will never play well together?

    I think Ba, Cisse or Ben Arfa would get the lip on if they didn’t play in a showcase game like today. Especially problematic with Ba supposedly working on a new contract.

  13. chuck says:
    November 4, 2012 at 3:33 pm (Edit)

    “It’s pure speculation that Comoli was responsible for te disasterous buying spree”

    Ask Martin Jol, Chuck.

    “Look at Man. Citeh, before Mancini, Chelsea after Morinho,”

    Chuck, since Mourinho was sacked only about four or five years ago, Chelsea have won the Champion’s League (which Mourinho couldn’t win for them), 1 Premier League title, 3 FA Cups and a Charity Shield. I could live with that kind of failure!

  14. Worky
    One has to be honest about what accured at Anfield, it’s just so obvious.
    And Dalglish, like Shearer, both great players, has nothing to do with their ability to manage and if Shearer has any sense and a desire to manage, he will go and learn his trade in the lower leagues.
    Because he showed his lack of any clue during the eight games in charge at NUFC.
    We both have visions of him and Quasimodo on the sidelines to-gether trying to look as if they knew what was going on.

  15. Worky
    Ask Jol does’nt mean shit, you have no proof of what took place and is just speculation on your part.
    You gotta get over this middle aged hero worship stuff and face reality.

    How many managers have come and gone at Chelsea, since Morinho, the last one being a total disaster.
    I was’nt including the present Chelsea manager and did’nt say they had’nt won anything, but it obviously
    one title in over five years is not good enough for the amount of money spent, ask Abramovich .

    Notice you left out Citeh and QPR, who at present have a failed Citeh manager, another example of a great player, who became a not so great manager.

  16. workyticket says:
    November 4, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    GS says:
    November 4, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    “Who is Andre Wisdom? I’ve never heard of him.”

    GS, he’s the grandson of Norman.

    LOL I don’t think so worky!

  17. It’s a nicely balanced game now but we look vulnerable when they break. I want to see HBA get at Enrique a bit more.

  18. Sammy J says:
    November 4, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    “It’s a nicely balanced game now”

    Aye, it does to a degree Sammy J, but it’s always the same at the start.

  19. Very very happy with hoe we finished the half… if we continue in the same vain could be a result! Cisse looked pretty lost though…any thoughts on tactical changes?

  20. GS says:
    November 4, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    “We haven’t won anything in the air in their half. Hopefully, Pardew will recognise that.”

    GS, a very large proportion of our aerial challenges are won by big Mike Williamson, but he isn’t on today.

  21. oh oh oh how Liverpool could’ve done with a big ‘target man’ for this game.
    outstanding finish from Cabeye.
    lets hope we can carry on in the 2nd as well as we finished the 1st.HWTL.

  22. Glad Anita is in the middle, we have looked a lot more composed. We didn’t need an “enforcer” against this team we needed someone who could hold and distribute the ball.

    Maybe once again Pardew gets lucky and we end up with the formation/personnel we should have started with.

  23. Anyway, we won’t have to overcome the curse that Andymac mentions when we never win when they score first.

  24. When will Pardew realise, Cisse and Ba just dont compliment each other, plus we need Ferguson on the left, he’s the only one who can provide service from there.

  25. Taylor again throwink himself about prevents a goal, why would anyone want to substitute him with Williams?

  26. More than we usually get there! The Suarez goal was good, just something that he did that is impossible to defend against. The irony is that it was the Rodgers team that scored from the long ball.

    I am very surprised at Coloccini. I can’t remember the last time I saw him make a dirty tackle like that.

  27. Tiki Taka vs. hoofball.
    We looked awful to-day were outplayed and were lucky to get the tie.
    Strangely enough if Jonas had’nt been so lacksidaisical we may have came away with all three points, does’nt make much sense.
    Just as well we took Perch off, i believe he thinks he’s Tiote in disguise, with poor tackling decicions.
    Cisse was nothing special, what’s happened to him ?
    Cabaye and HBA were decent, as was Colo. but Taylor was outstanding and how anyone in his right mind would prefer Williamson, is unbelievable.
    Sammy as i said earlier improves by the game and Anita is gradually adjusting to the pace of the game.
    Ferguson did’nt have much time to be effective.
    Santon is wasted on the left side, he’s much more effective on the right, like Jonas, always cuts inside and ends up in traffic, ah well thats why we have a manager innit !

  28. That was undoubtedly the poorest Liverpool side we’ve seen at home for a long time and yet they still made us look poor !!!!

    As for Colocinni he’s a had a mare today to go along with other poor performances this season. There’s summat up there but Saylor and Willo will have to do. It also means Colo and Chieck can play Europa League.

    Plus points – both Fergie and Sammy didnt look out of place and I’d be happy for HBA to take the centre midfield spot if Cabaye’s out for a while.

    Minus points – as well as the injuries, I’m not sure about TK’s form, he’s flapping at a lot of stuff without claiming it ? Pardwho – he’s always a minus point.

  29. Soz forgot to say Jonas needs to be sidelined for a while. Like Cisse he’s almost ineffective and costing us.

    Ironic that Rodgers lauds Suarez’s goal when it’s pure long ball :) and where’s Gerrard this week after criticising Everton for their long ball play ?

  30. Canada toon sez @36

    That said- Tiotes tackling has’nt been much better !

    Erm! that was my point!

    @60
    It was’nt Jonas’ fault, Cisse should never have played the ball back.

    That does’nt mean he should give the ball away through a lacksidaisical attitude.

  31. the way the games concerning us are going, you start to think your becoming psychic, then you realise pardiNOla is so predictable.
    he did to some extent get it right, by opting for a 4-4-3, but messed up by playing the two demba’s, which doesn’t work.
    he would have been better off possibly giving sami amoebi a start, in the front three, to give it more fluidity.

    i also think he should start to have a look at jonas, who is offering less and less, lately.
    he spends that much time rolling around the grass, that when retires, there should be a career, as a rep for a chalk company, due to his intimate knowledge.

    collicini was off his nut, going to do suarez, and can have no excuses, and has done his team mates no favours, for the coming fixtures.

    we weathered the early storm, and managed to put ourselves in a good position.
    low and behold after another pardiNOla team talk, we sat back again, in the second half.
    he must think we have the personnel to shut up shop, and win 1-0.

    it’s coming to something when krul seems to be taking all the free kicks, in our half of the field, probably under the instruction of pardiNOla.
    we persisted again today with knocking it long, but we continually gave it straight to the opposition, and put ourselves under pressure, as a result.

    i said on a previous thread, that if we played like have all season, as bad as liverppol are, they wouldn’t get beat today.
    as usual you are left frustrated, because you feel this team can do so much more.

  32. andymac,they are without a shadow, one of the worst bin dipper teams in recent history, and we made them look better, than they are.
    we finished above them last season, so you would have thought we would have kicked on, but there was very little between the sides, so what does that say about our transfre policy?

  33. AndyMac: I agree we missed a chance today as Liverpool had no one to finish except Suarez and $tevie Me isn’t what he was. I thought Krul was quite decisive with his punches.

    Liverpool had 4 England Internationals on the bench though – Carragher, Henderson, Shelvey, Downing :)

  34. And if they hadn’t have loaned out Carroll, it would have been 5 England internationals on the bench for Liverpool today :)

  35. chuck says:
    November 4, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    “but Taylor was outstanding and how anyone in his right mind would prefer Williamson, is unbelievable.”

    So where was the “outstanding” Taylor for Suarez’s goal then Chuck?

  36. Agreed TJ and GS. We are poor and probably no better than the misfiring RBD’s.

    Which leads us to the question, “How do we change things ?”

    Either Pardwho falls under a bus or………………….

  37. WT says:

    “So where was the “outstanding” Taylor for Suarez’s goal then Chuck?”

    Colo was man marking him WT !

  38. I’m considering Jonas’ contribution to the side.
    Obvious after years of playing him on the wrong wing, because he had developed a good working relationship with Enrique.
    Pardew figured he’s better as a DM, (so do I) and the fact that young Ferguson and Sammy can adequately fill in on the left.
    Rumor has it we may put in a bid for Sissokho, a DM and only twenty one or so, who could fill that role better than Jonas, what do we do with Jonas then ?
    I realize some fans may feel obligated to a player who’s been with us for a while, but thats not the question, it’s whether Jonas or Sissokho is the best choice for the side.
    Rumor also has it we could be back in for Douglas, who would be cheaper than in the summer due to his contract coming to an end next summer.
    And we could use a big tough CD, who can get an occasional goal from set plays, unlike Williamson who has yet to score, or defend adequately.

  39. WT whats also not very nice is supporting a team with a clueless manager who’s been given an eight year contract by muppoons who dont really give a shlt about how well Newcastle United play as long as we dont get relegated !

    Liverpool have only won once at home this season and that was against Reading !!!!

    Think back to our best performance this season, what was the starting line up and formation ?

  40. AndyMac says:
    November 4, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    “Colo was man marking him WT !”

    That doesn’t answer the question Andy, Suarez just shrugged Taylor off earlier in the build up to the goal.

  41. AndyMac says:
    November 4, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    “WT whats also not very nice is supporting a team with a clueless manager who’s been given an eight year contract by muppoons who dont really give a shlt about how well Newcastle United play as long as we dont get relegated !”

    Andy, whatever you don’t agree with about Pardew, I had an ex girlfriend who was killed when she was run over by a truck once and it’s not something you’d wish on anyone. I always told her it would happen if she didn’t learn her Green Cross Code.

  42. AndyMac @71 says:

    “That was undoubtedly the poorest Liverpool side we’ve seen at home for a long time and yet they still made us look poor !!!!”

    In addition to my points about Liverpool’s subs, let’s have a look at some of the starters today:

    Skrtel and Agger, accepted to be very good players, sought after and one of the best defensive partnerships in the league.

    Enrique – we thought he was good at NUFC

    Allen – 15 million pound man

    Sahin – picked by Worky as potential best bargain of the season along with Michu

    Gerrard Gerrard – England captain

    Sterling – touted as the next big thing

    Suarez – supposedly world class

    So, A-Mac, that’s at least 8 of the team that have good reputations (nine, if you count the second Gerrard), plus the England players on the bench!!!

  43. workyticket says:

    “Andy, whatever you don’t agree with about Pardew, I had an ex girlfriend who was killed when she was run over by a truck once and it’s not something you’d wish on anyone. I always told her it would happen if she didn’t learn her Green Cross Code”

    I’m sorry is this a blog dedicated to your ex girlfriend ?????

  44. Worky
    If you watched the game, who was it going shoulder to shoulder with Suarez when he scored, let me give you a hint he was sent off with a red card for probably a bit of revenge.
    Plus those Rio Plata guys from differen sides if the estuary, have a traditional enmity.
    Guess you did’nt see Taylors amazing sliding deflection, that saved us a point eh ?

  45. GS says:

    “So, A-Mac, that’s at least 8 of the team that have good reputations (nine, if you count the second Gerrard), plus the England players on the bench!!!”

    What are you talking about ????

    They’re shlte and everyone knows it. Look where they are in the league ?

  46. Andymac: apparently Rodgers doesn’t know they are shite as he didn’t buy a striker and Fenway Sports Group think he has the players to succeed, as they didn’t give him any money.

    That’s what you have Andymac? “look where they are in the league”. It’s still early.

  47. GS says:

    “That’s what you have Andymac? “look where they are in the league”. It’s still early”

    I know you’re playing DA but this is not an Alonso inspired RBD side nor is it packed with the likes of Owen, Rush or Fowler.

    They are as good as their league table position says they are and btw we’re no better !

  48. Whatever AndyMac, I am not a Liverpool anyway and believe we should have beat that team (although they are not as bad as YOU say).

    Chicago Bears are absolutely annihilating a team, so that is good.

  49. All kidding aside we as a team to-day, we looked clueless.
    If there was a plan, i would like to know what it was ?

    We cant go on like this relying on letting the players just go out there and play a mixture of hoofball then out of nowhere start a short passing game.

    What it appears like is each individual, suddenly remembers how to do certain things and they get into a pattern.
    Then it all breaks down and back to hoofing it into their end.

    Sorry, the Emperor has no clothes.

  50. AndyMac says:
    November 4, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    “I’m sorry is this a blog dedicated to your ex girlfriend ?????”

    Andy, that was besides the point, as well as completely uncalled for. Wishing someone under a bus, even if it isn’t someone you know personally isn’t very nice either.

  51. GS says:
    November 4, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    “Whatever AndyMac, I am not a Liverpool anyway and believe we should have beat that team (although they are not as bad as YOU say)”

    Liverpool have only won three of their last 15 Premier League matches at Anfield (W3 D6 L6) yet today Liverpool (23) had more than twice as many efforts on goal as Newcastle (11).

  52. workyticket says:

    “Andy, that was besides the point, as well as completely uncalled for. Wishing someone under a bus, even if it isn’t someone you know personally isn’t very nice either”

    Read you email sunshine, I’m off !

  53. I have to leave, but, there is a difference between playing DA and making points against your statement that I can easily defend.

    And, who gives a f*ck about the Red Bin Dippers anyway, so in that sense I was playing DA :)

  54. Worky
    Mainly the fact you appear to prefer Williamson to Taylor.
    And seem to think the culprit for the Suarez equaliser was Taylor, which the video clearly shows was Jonas in fact, who gave the ball away and not really Colo either, he tried his best.

  55. GS says:
    November 4, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    “Sahin – picked by Worky as potential best bargain of the season along with Michu”

    I think that was Oussama Assaidi from Herenveen, GS. Not sure about him in the Premiership yet as big head hasn’t played him much, but he was as cheap as chips anyway and he made goals for fun in the Eredivisie.

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