Guest Blog: Laurent Blanc To Become The Next Newcastle Manager?

Laurent Blanc.

Laurent Blanc: Why not?

Many thanks to “ToonBano” from the Toon blog www.toonbano.com for his fifth guest blog here – wt.

Apologies for the sensationalist headline but bear with me there’s a point to it. My patience with Alan Pardew has been down to a thread for most of this season (just have a little look in my archive section to see the proof), but since that Brighton humiliation the thread has snapped. For good. The man is totally incompetent at his role and how he manages to get away with it without any real criticism in the footballing world is astonishing. His greatest talent is being soaked in Teflon it seems.

To the eye of the realistic, honest and well informed Newcastle United supporter, his incompetence does not go unnoticed however. In fact, it drives us up the wall! When you look at every aspect of the Newcastle Utd managers responsibilities he holds, it is quite reasonable to say that the one we have in place has failed at almost every single one of them. I’ll name a few and you decide whether he gets a ‘pass’ or a ‘fail’:

    Tactics
    Team selection
    Substitutions
    Use of the squad
    Motivation
    Organisation
    Set pieces
    Media Handling
    Player recruitment (partly)
    Staff recruitment
    Team morale
    Player confidence
    Clubs league position.
    Club’s domestic cup run.
    Club’s European run.


I’ve named several there and apart from the European qualification (only just in the end), and his ability to avoid any criticism of himself through the media rather than actually help the team, I would say Mr Pardew gets a big fat ‘F’ overall. I would expect him to get the team right on a few occasions (even Joe Kinnear could do that) as well as a substitution coming off now and again, but it has to be said you are clutching at some very shaky straws to suggest he has been up to the job this season.

Papiss Cisse. I don’t honestly believe he has known his best team all season long and still doesn’t as I write this. The amount of times he has changed the team during the game this year has been astounding, sometimes as soon as half time and sometimes after just half an hour! We had to suffer through 4-4-2 hoofball nonsense for most of this season before suddenly he saw the light and switched to 4-3-3, but even then he still hasn’t done it properly. Jonas LW with Cisse RW? Are you sure? Have you seen our squad play before? You were here last season weren’t you?

I think that LMA Manager of the year award has gone to his head, or should that be ego? We all know he has a problem with arrogance, which in turn can manufacture into complacency and stubbornness. There is only one thing worse than a man who gets it wrong and that’s a man who is not prepared to admit it. I am sure the captain of the Titanic was still adamant going that little bit faster was the right thing to do in last dying breath. Plus the 8 year contract in the back pocket sent his demons into over drive.

Telling a man like Pardew he can do what he likes and only get sacked under remarkable circumstances is like telling Adam he can live in total paradise but only if he doesn’t eat from one specific tree. You know he’s going to focus on it, ignorant to the Babylon around him. But moving on from bashing Pardew again, let’s offer an alternative. If we were to (rightfully) sack a man who has seen this massive proud football club lose 10 games out of 12, including being dumped out the FA Cup with the barely recognisable smallest of whimpers, then who could replace him?

In my eyes we would need somebody with a continental style and outlook all round to match our continental squad of players. We would need somebody with success and a track record to admire to warrant replacing our current manager. We would need somebody who could get the best out of the big French speaking contingent in our squad. We would need somebody available and who would realistically come to our football club. One man stands out above all to me and that man is Laurent Blanc.

Laurent Blanc press conference. Since he won the French league and cup double with un-fancied Bordeaux and took over the complete shambles of the French national team with great success (he went over 20 games unbeaten), he is at this moment without a job. It is understood he is learning English in preparation to come to the Premier League at some point in his managerial career. If you can also tell me someone who is more suited and qualified to bring the best out of Yohan Cabaye, Matt Debuchy and Ben Arfa then I would like to hear it. He had a squabble with Benny in the Euros but the fact he picked him in the first place says a lot.

For me, I would be on the phone to him right now to see if he fancied taking on the challenge of Newcastle Utd in the Premier League. He already knows some of the key players, along with others like Gabriel Obertan who he had at Bordeaux for example. The shoe fits perfectly for me and under any other (normal) circumstances, this appointment would be not just likely but at least have the odd small whisper about it. But that is the major stumbling block isn’t it? We aren’t in normal circumstances. We are still in the Ashley/Llambias era.

They don’t want the best manager possible, they want a puppet. They don’t want the best possible squad to compete, they want assets to be sold on. They don’t want to spend money we can afford to make the football club stronger, they want to squeeze every penny and spend nothing if they feel they can get away with it. No matter how much I slate Pardew, it’s these two clowns which are the incurable cancer that sits deep within our football club’s cells. I don’t care what you say these men have done, this football club can never prosper under Laurel and Hardy’s leadership. It’s just plain impossible.

They are incapable of making rational, intelligent, well thought out decisions. When they come close to one, they then destroy it by not seeing it through properly, or compromise it with a counter productive bad decision. In the 5 or so years Ashley has been here there are catalogues of examples that I am not prepared to waste my time going over again. We all know them (or you should).

Our manager position through Alan Pardew is merely a puppet to speak for Mike Ashley’s plaything with Derek Llambias in place to be the middle man to filter the propaganda the club is run on and to polish and glitter up the turds it produces. All of which us fans are required to swallow and chow down on without complaining otherwise you are somehow ‘against’ the club. ‘Let them eat cake’ one out of touch monarch once famously said. Our illustrious leaders aren’t that optimistic. ‘Let them eat sh*t’ should be our club motto right now. We may as well change the club badge to a Magpie crapping over the fans as he perches on the stadium roof.

Mike Ashley and Derek Llambias. Our club is still being ran by men who took this club to new depths and are threatening to do it again all too soon. All of which is done with the best intentions. That’s the true scary part. If they were meaning to ruin our club then at least that could be stopped somehow and would actually make some sense. Seriously what actually goes on at their board meetings? A Mike Ashley strip tease or Big Derek running naked across the pitch?

Let’s finish 5th and not invest the money we made into the squad shall we? Let’s sell a player for a ridiculous price of £35 million (net profit) and not invest it efficiently in the squad shall we? Let’s acquire a football club to play with but then actually make money through club transfers instead of spending, even though I am recognised as a billionaire shall we? If our football club was that of make believe on the scale of that of Harchester United on Dream Team I wouldn’t believe it. I would question the reality of the story line. Because when a club gets relegated after a billionaire takeover, it really is that ridiculous.

We can only hope for normality when Ash sells up and ****’s off. Only then could we dream of having a proper manager in place like Laurent Blanc for e.g. Only then could we regular challenge for European places and cup competitions. Only then could we have a season where we didn’t have to be dreading relegation to the Football League…for the second time!!

An appointment like Laurent Blanc would be seen as logical in years gone by, now it is impossible. That says a hell of a lot.

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219 Responses to “Guest Blog: Laurent Blanc To Become The Next Newcastle Manager?”

  1. 1
    avatar kk says:

    Quote …
    “.. but since that Brighton humiliation the thread has snapped. For good.”

    Can I just ask which team you would have played?

  2. 2
    avatar Tartoon82 says:

    How did you feel our season went last year then?…Would you have sacked AP then? And what’s the main difference now?… 1. Injuries, 2. European Cup / travel… 3 Luck

  3. 3
    avatar ToonBano says:

    #1 A pretty similar one, except with Marveaux in for Abeid. I would have worked on it all week to be as organised as possible at the back and in midfield and try my best to give those young players some much needed confidence. Not just throw them in with my excuse locked and loaded if they fail for the media to swallow again. I would have expected our U18′s with their respective coach in charge to have put up more than a fight than that ‘humliation’. But then again, i’m not a manager…

    #2 Last year was unbelievable. We all enjoyed. But it wasn’t all sunshines and rainbows. The players achieved great results in spite of the managers decisions in starting line ups and substitutions. The only time AP genuinely impressed as a manager is when he accomodated Ba, Cisse and HBA in the 4-3-3 system. He then dumped it with no explanation and has been on a downward spiral ever since.

  4. 4
    avatar Davetoon says:

    Bit emotional….and it wasn’t Adam that was tempted by the apple numpty

  5. 5
    avatar Colindm says:

    Don’t panic and carry on.

  6. 6
    avatar Toonagogo says:

    I’m sorry but this article is slightly ridiculous. There’s a reason why we haven’t been performing as well as last season – consistency. Last season we had practically the same players in every match for the first half of the season which saw the team go on that unbeaten run of 11 games in the league, that came to an end because of injuries, much like the injuries we’ve had this season. And it’s also funny how everyone sings the praises of the scouting team and shrewd business going on when signing players great players for little money to balance the books but when we’ve had a bad run and are plagued by injuries this time around, people are back to criticising. And as for Cisse on the right, who wouldn’t have played Ba through the middle while he was scoring and to try and keep him happy to ensure he stays… didn’t work but anyone would have tried. Let’s try something, let’s stick by our team and not jump to conclusions just yet, wait until we have players back, January’s over and the end of the season to see where are… Just saying

  7. 7
    avatar Toonagogo says:

    and Laurent Blanc will wait to go to Man Utd, not Newcastle

  8. 8
    avatar ToonBano says:

    #4 I am emotional. Erm, Adam was told not to eat from the tree but got tempted by eve and some crafty serpent fella.

    Not that I am into the Bible or anything…

  9. 9
    avatar ToonBano says:

    #7 you claim my article is ridiculous than claim Man Utd would hire a manager who has only been one for a few years….

    Ok then

  10. 10
    avatar utd111 says:

    You missed one…..

    He’s responsible for the world recession too eh?

    All a Bit harsh mate

  11. 11
    avatar ToonBano says:

    #10 All a bit honest. He is the manager you know…

  12. 12
    avatar Toonagogo says:

    Oh yeah sorry I meant that he’s moving there next season. Really? Did I say that?
    Plus funny how it didn’t stop Chelsea with Villas-Boas (admittedly, it is trigger happy Chelsea who just wanted to find the next best thing) but, I seem to recall (can’t remember when or from who) Fergie saying something along the lines of wanting Blanc to replace him when he’s done.

  13. 13
    avatar ToonBano says:

    #12 Well if that were true, Fergie isn’t going anywhere fast is he? Wouldn’t Blanc and Fergie like him to have a few years experience in the PL with a wee club like ours before taking over?

  14. 14
    avatar toontony says:

    Good article mate, but you’ll always get some who just believe what they want to belive

  15. 15
    avatar Jimbob says:

    I’m telling you all now. Ron Atkinson will get the job if Pardew’s axed.

    Or Lawrie Sanchez.

  16. 16
    avatar ToonBano says:

    #14 I know. I have no problem with that. I would like some logical aggreivances to possibly debate then just unimportant rubbish

  17. 17
    avatar Toonagogo says:

    Uh doesn’t mean Blanc would come to Newcastle. Plus he’s been a manager for what, 5-6 years now and that includes the French national team also. Pep Guardiola had previous experience with the Barcelona B team for one year before taking over the senior squad and turning them into the greatest team in the world, now I know, I know different class of players but, Ben Arfa, Cabaye and Cisse are world class on their day in my opinion. And from the sounds of it, you think Fergie and Blanc are in cahoots with one another if Fergie is suggesting him to get a few years under his belt before moving to Man Utd, do you really want a manager for 5 years or less before he leaves for Man Utd? I’d rather a manager stay at Newcastle for years, maybe decades and build a squad. Constistency. Not in, out, in, out. It’s proven to have worked with Moyes, Wenger and Fergie.

  18. 18
    avatar utd111 says:

    Is there an english translation of the comment at 16?

  19. 19
    avatar workyticket says:

    I think I’ve written this before, but one of the worst things about Ashley is how divisive he is. He has all the fans at each other’s throats.

  20. 20
    avatar mark says:

    I thought it was a great article. Pardew is a puppet who has defo lost his way this season…

  21. 21
    avatar workyticket says:

    utd111 says:
    January 8, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    “Is there an english translation of the comment at 16?”

    UTD:

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Aggrievance

  22. 22
    avatar Chris says:

    Must admit i agree with most of this. Tis something i’ve had discussions about, if pardew goes, who replaces him. There are good managers available, blanc being one example, isn’t bilic available too? but Ashley won’t go for them. They don’t want a boss who wants success, who wants the challenge. They want a boss who’s never going to get a better chance to manage a big club and will do as they’re told, and i imagine there’s far more of them around than there are good managers

  23. 23
    avatar Toonagogo says:

    You make no sense, you want a man who has (according to yourself) little experience in management to take over from a sinking ship who has had no stability or consistency. And you want to do this now? While we’re in freefall? The problem isn’t the manager, because he’s trying to work with what he’s got, I’m saying it’s not all his fault. But the problem comes from above, you were right that they should have invested more in the squad because now it’s paper thin.

  24. 24
    avatar utd111 says:

    Thanks Worky – I have english qualifications mate. But the comment was confusing because:

    If “aggreivances” means “aggrievances” which also means “grievances” – why not just say grievances?

    …and “then” must have been meant to be “than”?

    Never mind……

  25. 25
    avatar Paul in Hollywood says:

    I saw this article yesterday and I think Laurent Blanc would be excellent for the club, given his experience and the number of French players we now have. It would be a good challenge for him. His appointment, and of course we are still talking fiction, would assume that Mike Ashley had been pointed in a new direction.
    Anyway, thanks for the thought ToonBano!

  26. 26
    avatar ToonBano says:

    The France sinking ship was incredible. He turned that into a success almost immediately.

    He doesn’t have the experience yet for a Man Utd. He would be perfect for a club of our size within the Premier League. His style and ability to work with our French influence would be seamless.

    But I am not just saying Blanc is the man. If you have any one else you would like to suggest then go for it.

  27. 27
    avatar workyticket says:

    Toonagogo says:
    January 8, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    “Pep Guardiola had previous experience with the Barcelona B team for one year before taking over the senior squad and turning them into the greatest team in the world”

    Guardiola did learn his trade under Johan Cruyff though Toonagogo, not Terry Bullivant and Tommy Burns.

  28. 28
    avatar mark says:

    Laudrup would do for me. Good defensively and also plays neat football. With a better team he could work wonders, but i reckon he’ll have too much ambition for Ashley

  29. 29
    avatar Toonagogo says:

    you can’t base his appointment on one case, he had experienced world class players to work with there with world class players to back them up. Lloris, Evra, Mexes, Ribery, Nasri, Benzema, etc.
    Granted, I would like to see him at Newcastle, but not for the short term, I want a manager to be there for 15 years, learning the complete ins and outs of the club and being involved in every part of the day to day running. But that’s not going to happen with Ashley and co., I would also like us to have a billionaire owner who is willing to invest a bit more when needed and not take months to get deals done, in all fairness though, our books are looking better than most.
    I don’t think he should have gotten rid of Hughton. Lee Clarke seems to be doing well lower down.

  30. 30
    avatar workyticket says:

    mark says:
    January 8, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    “Laudrup would do for me.”

    Like Guardiola, he learned his trade under Cruyff too. As one of the greatest playmakers the game has ever seen, he would be an excellent coach for players such as Ben Arfa and Cabaye too. He’s turned a player Pardew dismissed as “not good enough for Noocarssel” into an excellent player who we really could have done with right now.

  31. 31
    avatar Toonagogo says:

    haha yep, that one year made all the difference mate

  32. 32
    avatar mattyNUFC says:

    Laudrup or Martinez, simple.

    their unquestionable talents aside, they are both proper professionals and moreover good, honest, decent gentlemen, something we’ve been missing at the helm for about twenty-five odd months now

  33. 33
    avatar mark says:

    I think Laudrup would be ideal for Newcastle. The fans would love his style of football. We’ve already got the team to tinker with + a few additions….he could be the new Keegan :)

  34. 34
    avatar workyticket says:

    Toonagogo says:
    January 8, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    “I don’t think he should have gotten rid of Hughton. Lee Clarke seems to be doing well lower down.”

    Lee Clark is 20th in the Championship ATM Toonagogo.

  35. 35
    avatar mattyNUFC says:

    worky

    i assume you’re referring to routeledge? never understood why he left. a lot of fans got worked up easy over him cause his lack of crossing ability, but if he were here now, he’d still be the only player we have that can beat a man consistently (bar HBA)

    and can i assume you are for a pardew sacking, in some fashion?

  36. 36
    avatar mattyNUFC says:

    hypothetically of course, not sold on Blanc….no telling if he could bring success here….or decent football at the least. Laudrup, you would hope, would have to be top of the pile…young, innovative, disciplined, handles the media well, PL experience, and he seems like an honest, well-liked character.

  37. 37
    avatar Toonagogo says:

    At the moment he’s doing crap, but he had a good few years at Huddersfield.
    Can I ask what team any of you would have picked against Brighton?
    Pardew’s not the best manager, not saying he is. But you can’t just keep replacing the manager over and over when we’ve got the people above. The club needs an overhaul, it’s true, but no one seems to want to buy the club, and that means we’ve got to stick with the manager we’ve got (who did well last season with a team no one would’ve thought could have finished 5th) and actually stand by the team, not post article upon article of the same stuff of criticising the team and manager. Let’s try post something positive for a change, yeah?

  38. 38
    avatar hardiechar says:

    Jimbob; if Ron Atkinson got the toon job I would walk away from football and never watch the game again. Good article toonbano and I think u make some good points. Not sure if blanc is the man but then again no one knew where kin near came from or pardew for that matter. I didn’t want him at first but seemed to prove me wrong last season but based on this season my initial gut instinct seems to have been right. I don’t know where we can go from here but after 33 years of being on this earth and supporting toon I give up on the hope of a stable and successful club…

  39. 39
    avatar mark says:

    @Toonagogo

    Pardew has been poor in all of our FA cup games. beaten twice of Brighton, once off Stevenage and just scraped through at home v B’Burn with a Gutierrez last minute winner.

  40. 40
    avatar Toonagogo says:

    @mark

    It wasn’t a question based purely on the cup runs, but more of a question inviting people to pick a team with what we’ve got at the moment. Cups runs have been awful because he continues to try and give experience to younger players

  41. 41
    avatar workyticket says:

    mattyNUFC says:
    January 8, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    “worky

    i assume you’re referring to routeledge? never understood why he left. a lot of fans got worked up easy over him cause his lack of crossing ability”

    He has 6 assists so far this season matty, far more than anyone in the newcastle squad, not to mention 5 goals.

    “and can i assume you are for a pardew sacking, in some fashion?”

    I did say what would happen when he was appointed, and even last season too. We were on the right track before, but Ashley and Llambias wanted someone who was as “horrible” as them. The likes of Peter Reid, Frank Clark, George Burley, Dave Jones, Steve Coppell and others have all done the same thing as Pardew in the past, or even better, and they too won “Manager of the Year” for it too. Then the opposition got used to them and they found their true level.

    I don’t go by the fact that we were 5th for one season, or that were 15th currently for that matter. I go by the football, their decisionmaking, and look at a manager’s results over the longer term when that’s possible. Nothing or no-one is completely infallible but it’s a far more reliable guide.

  42. 42
    avatar sammy d says:

    I also have just about lost the plot trying to rationalise some of pardieu’s tactics and more so substitutions the brighton debacle was one of the final nails in the coffin,however he had to choose his best eleven from thirteen.
    The injuries this season have been horrific to say the least and wether that is pards fault or not is another debate,so on last years performances i say pardew has earned the right to be manager for this season and hopefully for us he will have a few more players to pick from in the coming weeks.
    News is Simmo is going to be offered a better contract TFFT is all i can say he is the type of squad player we need.

  43. 43
    avatar sammy d says:

    If we are talking cup runs ours have been shit since I was a lad and that was a long time ago

  44. 44
    avatar workyticket says:

    sammy d says:
    January 8, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    “I also have just about lost the plot trying to rationalise some of pardieu’s tactics and more so substitutions”

    Sammy, would you leave Javier Mascherano on the bench for Hayden Mullins, or play Carlos Tevez out of position to accommodate Marlon Harewood?

  45. 45
    avatar mark says:

    @Sammy D

    I’d be very surprised if Simpson signs. He knows he’s gonna be a sub now and we’ve messed him about too much. he’s enjoying the party scene too much now to hang about the toon.

  46. 46
    avatar sammy d says:

    Worky I told many people about the Mascherano/Tevez scenario when he was in the running for the toon job and in my opinion that should have been good enough reason to run anyone out of town however he won me over last seaso and that is why I think he should be given more time.I dont thinnk my opinion is 100% right but I 100% think it is the right thing to do.

  47. 47
    avatar workyticket says:

    sammy d says:
    January 8, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    “If we are talking cup runs ours have been shit since I was a lad and that was a long time ago”

    Sammy, we reached two cup finals in a row, then a semi final the year after that at the end of the last millenium, so it wasn’t that long ago when you were a lad. Some of us were wandering around in animal skins and hunting woolly mammoths when we started supporting the Toon! ;-)

  48. 48
    avatar sammy d says:

    Mark@45 one thing going for us is that the lad actually loves playing for the toon and i am sure that if we offered what he can easily get elsewhere he would stay.There cant be many players who have played more games for us than him over the last three seasons can there.

  49. 49
    avatar Nutmag says:

    Worky@47
    Talking about me again!

  50. 50
    avatar sammy d says:

    worky iwas going to put an “apart from” in the cup run post but unless you are the winner you are the loser lol

  51. 51
    avatar geordiedan says:

    Another “Pardew is the anti-Christ” article? Howay man!

    Pardew was voted LMA award of the year and selected by his peers as the Manager who achieved by far the most last season.

    This year he has got it wrong no doubt about it with tactics etc in numerous games but like it or not the injury “excuses”, extra games and lack of squad depth (down to Ashley not Pardew)HAS smashed us this year and the confidence that came with last years successes.

    Why this constitutes a reason for some some so called fans to be so vicious towards him is gob-smacking. Talk about fickle.

    If I was the manager of NUFC and I got us to 5th last year and suddenly got all this abuse from fans of my club I’d hardly be impressed and neither would the players I had to motivate!

    Way, way, way too much negativity from too many people is poisoning the atmosphere around Newcastle now and it needs to stop or it will ruin us.

    I’m just sick of reading these blogs tbh these days.

    Why not go to the match and cheer the lads on regardless every week instead of sitting behind your computers and talk pessimistic bullshit all day.

  52. 52
    avatar Toonagogo says:

    @geordiedan

    Hear, hear.

  53. 53
    avatar mattyNUFC says:

    worky

    loved routeledge while he was here, not disputing anything

  54. 54
    avatar mattyNUFC says:

    geordiedan

    show me an interview where pardew has been positive. everything the man says is tinged with either negativity or lowering expectations…..or they’re just flat out lies or excuses

    tell me how the fans are supposed to remain positive towards a man who is anything but?

  55. 55
    avatar sammy d says:

    here here geordie Dan support is what is needed right now

  56. 56
    avatar s_mav says:

    It is worth noting that when David Moyes took over at Everton they finished 7th in his first season and Moyes won the manager of the season award, the following season they finished 17th on 39 pts narrowly avoiding relegation. You have to wonder where Everton would be now if they had sacked Moyes.

    Surely to sack Pardew in the middle of the season because of a bad run of form is exactly the type of thing we need to move away from, it would be a short-sighted panic decision. Where would we go from there? You suggest Laurent Blanc as a possible replacement, but if he was that brilliant of a manager for France why did he last less than 2 years in the job? Not to mention the fact that during his time in charge of the French team he fell out with our star player.

    You state that the realistic, honest and well informed supporter believes Pardew to be incompetent, does that mean that everyone who doesn’t agree with YOUR opinion unrealistic, dishonest and misinformed? Does that include over 60% of the people who responded to the poll?

  57. 57
    avatar workyticket says:

    geordiedan says:
    January 8, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    “Why not go to the match and cheer the lads on regardless every week instead of sitting behind your computers and talk pessimistic bullshit all day.”

    geordiedan, are you trying to suggest that if someone expresses an opinion which differs from your own they’re not a real fan?

  58. 58
    avatar sammy d says:

    Toonbano wether you agree with the content or not any article the stirs up this kind of debate is a good article.

  59. 59
    avatar Toonagogo says:

    @mattyNUFC

    So what’s the alternative, live in a constant state of gloom? Or support our team and make our players and manager feel backed and trusted to do the job? I’m sure they’d rather that than constantly see a stream of negativity from fans.

  60. 60
    avatar sammy d says:

    the =that

  61. 61
    avatar mattyNUFC says:

    toonagogo

    haha, really? we’re saying (well, a lot of us) that we DON”T trust pards to do the job!

    hey, a shit rolls downhill, son, good and bad…..we in essence are their employers (to a degree). THEY need to be the ones to give us something to be positive about. that is there job. they are in place for us. if he feels all doom and gloom well maybe it’s time to pack it in. it’s clear he cannot motivate these players (as judged by the fact we’ve yet to secure a come-from-behind victory). to insinuate our current plight or the continuation of it can in any way shape or form be attributed or tethered to an unwavering fan-base is ludicrous and petulant.

  62. 62
    avatar mattyNUFC says:

    their* obviously

  63. 63
    avatar geordiedan says:

    matty>

    Ok then well be as negative as you like towards him. That will definitely make a fantastic impact won’t it?

    Or maybe eventually get him sacked so we can bring in another world-class manager who I’m sure Mr Mike Ashley would donate his entire personal fortune to acquire just so his beloved Newcastle United could maybe win a trophy.

    Just who exactly do you think would come to manage our club under the Ashley dictatorship? Laurent Blanc? We couldn’t get Laurel and Hardy,

    And as a footnote I’ve seen Pardew very positive in many interviews over the last couple of seasons but maybe those rose-tinted specs I got for xmas have something to do with that? :)

    But never mind, continue with your Pardew-out stuff…

    I won’t get in your way with any of those ‘having an opinion’ thingeys. :D

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    avatar mattyNUFC says:

    hey, i’m not the vociferous, from the steeple-shouting pardew out types…..but to say this man has done a decent job of getting this unquestionably talented group of players to play something resembling good football is inane.

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    avatar sammy d says:

    now gents everyone is entitled to their opinion however if you look at all the opinions rationally you have to agree that mine is clearly right.

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    avatar geordiedan says:

    Worky>

    You may know me better than most on here I guess and that definitely isn’t the case mate.

    People are always entitled to their opinion regardless of whether I agree with it or not.

    In my personal view real NUFC supporters “support” and don’t just spout this nagative crap all day long and I would actually question how mow much of a supporter some people actually are on here if their only source of entertainment from NUFC these days is talking 5hite against almost everything at our club.

    Strangely its the football that entertains me most with NUFC, not calling people names and trying to get yet another manager sacked.

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    avatar mattyNUFC says:

    anyway, am out. take no offence toonagogo, i see you’ve been lurking, hoping to spring out at the faintest whiff of dissent :)

    ciao for now

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    avatar Toonagogo says:

    @mattyNUFC

    haha like any form of employment, your employees feed from your enthusiasm and your motivation, you’re no better than Pardew in that situation then by contradicting yourself. You say that Pardew shouldn’t be negative and should motivate his team because he’s the manager, then state that you are in essence his employer because you’re a fan and pay his wages by buying shirts, merch and tickets, then say that you have every right to express your negative views constantly? Surely, you have every responsibility, just like Pardew, to motivate the players and staff then?

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    avatar Toonagogo says:

    yep, you’re right, I have. I haven’t expressed my views from the start at all

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    avatar mattyNUFC says:

    geordiedan

    ha, now you question a fan’s allegiance if they voice a bit of dissent or disgruntlement with what they’re paying to see.

    joe mccarthy of the club, eh? you should come up with a litmus test for true fans. say ‘if you don’t pass this, you’re not a true fan! blah!” yeah, quantitative proof to oust these mackems, eh?

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    avatar mattyNUFC says:

    toonagogo

    a fan base is a unique thing…they are the ‘employers’ in essence because without them there would be no use for the employees, but they are the one’s footing the bill for the nearly everything as well with no profit. only you could turn a plea from someone saying pards needs to be more positive and not so defeating into ‘well it’s your fault he’s like that!”

    ha

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    avatar Toonagogo says:

    matty

    you’re right, we do pay their wages, but we are also responsible for picking the team and manager up sometimes. Not constantly putting them down, don’t you think? We’re renowned for our support, I haven’t seen much support lately. Everything I read on NUFC is negative nowadays.

    ps. it is your fault, it’s always your fault

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    avatar geordiedan says:

    matty>

    That’s not what I said at all but never mind. You too busy typing your quips to read properly?

    Maybe I should insert a couple of cheap “blah blah’s” and “ha’s” and then throw in a couple of long impressive adjectives like you do eh?

    No litmus tests for poor supporters unfotunatly but a cast-iron one to find someone acting intelligence whilst hiding childishness?

    Grow up man

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    avatar sammy d says:

    c’mon geordie dan we need ha ha’s and blah blah’s its pantomime season.Pardews ace Oh no he …. insert your own ending

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    avatar geordiedan says:

    Toonagogo>

    I think your wasting your breath mate.

    Let them wallow in their misery if that’s what they want.

    I look at it this way at the very least : Are we worse than QPR, Aston Villa or Reading -NOPE and I dare anyone on here to say we are worse than the scum either-regardless of league position.

    We WONT get relegated. We really won’t. It might be an awful season but we’ll still be a Prem team next season and fighting on.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    geordiedan says:
    January 8, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    “Worky>

    You may know me better than most on here I guess and that definitely isn’t the case mate.

    People are always entitled to their opinion regardless of whether I agree with it or not.In my personal view real NUFC supporters “support” and don’t just spout this nagative crap all day long and I would actually question how mow much of a supporter some people actually are on here if their only source of entertainment from NUFC these days is talking 5hite against almost everything at our club.”

    So you ARE trying to suggest that people who disagree with your opinion aren’t real Newcastle United fans. You can’t have it both ways ;-)

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    avatar geordiedan says:

    sammy> Fill your boots mate. :D

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    avatar sammy d says:

    good night all

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    avatar Toonagogo says:

    Hope so, I was at Villa for relegation (sat in the Villa stand because they were the only tickets I could get). I nearly died there and then.

    Let’s hope it can be turned around. And let’s give Pardew a few seasons to see what he can (or can’t) do with Newcastle. I mean, it’s not like we’ve got a choice in the matter, let’s at least get behind the situation and make the most of it.

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    avatar Jimbob says:

    hardiechar, it would be Ron Atkinson though, or someone very similar. As I said before it’s ok though because Ashley would only initially give him a six week contract while he sells the club to Nigerians or Barry Moat.

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    avatar geordiedan says:

    Worky>

    Howay man. :D

    Thought a man of the world such as yourself would kna what I’m on about. :)

    Even if NUFC play 5hit every week (which they are right now) you still back the team right?

    NUFC fans can be accused of many things but not being sunshine supporters, ie only supporting when we’re doing well.

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    avatar geordiedan says:

    Toonagogo>

    Was at that game against Villa myself and watched the Villa scum taking the piss as if they were mackems in disguise when they won.

    I would be genuinely gob-smacked if we haven’t turned this around by the end of the season. This team doesn’t have Owen’s, Geremies and Vidukas in it and this seasons there are genuinely 4 teams at least that are worse than us even at our worst.

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    avatar Jimbob says:

    Stale Solbakken’s available, and down on his luck. A perfect choice. He also looks like Richard O’Brien which is cool, as opposed to Pardew who looks like Super Hans from Peep Show.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    geordiedan says:
    January 8, 2013 at 10:36 pm

    “Worky>

    Howay man. :D

    Thought a man of the world such as yourself would kna what I’m on about.”

    Yes, I know exactly what you’re on about geordiedan. You’re trying to smear people who sit at their computers for hours writing about the club they love for the benefit of their fellow fans because you don’t agree with them and I thought you were better than that. I don’t know about Toonbano, but I really don’t know why I bother spending hundreds of hours doing this f*cking blog sometimes only to be told that I’m not a real fan because I just sit at a computer all day. Thanks.

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    avatar boater says:

    This debate is moot. We are on the bleakest of runs in our history as a result of a number of contributing factors, some of which are AP’s doing and others beyond his remit. Pardew will be given a chance to turn the club’s fortunes around in the upcoming fixtures and if he does then we all stand to benefit from a galvanised management team which has learned its lessons the hard way – and should be stronger for doing so (a la Moyes). Failing an upturn in results following with the return of his purple players, Pardew’s position will be completely untenable as he has now declared injuries to be the basis upon which we have floundered (dubious as that is under closer inspection), and the board will be forced into looking for new leadership.

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    avatar geordiedan says:

    …..Anyways said my bit now I awa again.

    Night lads and lasses.

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    avatar Toonagogo says:

    I’m sure we’ll be fine, but we did say it before – I’m hopeful! We have world class players here now, you’re right and by the looks of it we’ll have Remy soon.

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    avatar GS says:

    Purple means $5,000 in Vegas, hot in Australia, and only 11 players in Newcastle because no one will ever get injured, ever, I mean ever. Not even Ben Arfa when he breaks his leg or Marveaux when he “has a groin” or even Obertan when he “has a toe”.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/australia-weather-heats-colors-added-weather-map-195717230.html

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    avatar Toonagogo says:

    @workyticket

    you’re efforts are appreciated in bringing us news on the toon and sparking debates like this. however, if you put your opinion out there, other opinions are gonna be given. And I would like to see more positivity on every blog and article i read, not just this one (i know it’s not your piece but still) and it seems they’re all the same. doom and gloom. yours i think is one of the few which is different, yours states facts

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    avatar GS says:

    Sorry for saying what I said @88, it was the purples thing that reminded me of Del Boy.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Toonagogo says:
    January 8, 2013 at 10:59 pm

    “if you put your opinion out there, other opinions are gonna be given.”

    Tell that to GeodieDan, Toonagogo. He’s the one who’s saying that people who don’t agree with him aren’t real Newcastle United fans. I certainly don’t have a problem a problem with differeing opinions, just ad hominem attacks and innuendo.

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    avatar GS says:

    Worky: I wouldn’t worry that much :) Some people have had a go at me and I can never figure out why I even care. It is human nature to care, that’s all I can think of.

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    avatar GS says:

    A huge “dome of heat” has purpled the country. Ubaggoolagoolgong reached record temps mate of 105 degrees celcius, or fahrenheit – I don’t know the difference, I am Australian.

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    avatar GS says:

    Blaady hot though.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    January 8, 2013 at 11:39 pm

    “Blaady hot though.”

    50 degrees centigrade GS, I had a quick a quick look. Of course, there were some Yanks on there saying it’s hotter in America. :-)

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Or 50 degrees Celcius.

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    avatar GS says:

    Divide by 9, multiply by 5, add 32. That’ll work. :)

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    avatar GS says:

    Multiply by 9, add 32, divide by 5?

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Aren’t you supposed to be a financial expert? :lol:

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    avatar Ravenmad1 says:

    He anyone actually thought that the cup match was a good thing, I mean can you imagine if we had won that and the run continued how many more matches would have to played, we are stretched wire thin as it is . So maybe losing at Brighton is not such a disaster, disappointing yes, but not the end of the world as we can now concentrate on league survival and maybe a little run out in Europe. Which to be honest is more important to the continued growth of this great club.

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    avatar mindshaft says:

    Pardew has to take some of the blame for the poor run of form we’re currently on, his tactics have been poor although I agree he hasn’t been helped by the two muppets at the helm. Sadly I don’t think Blanc or any other top manager would come to toon so we’d end up with Lee Clark or some other local hero type which would surely send us into an even worse downward spiral
    Think we have to give Pards the benefit of the doubt and get behind the team, doesn’t mean we have to think he’s the dogs bollocks though

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    avatar roy cropper says:

    laurent blanc

    spelt – tony mowbray – in arkwright’s world.

    he’s got a bunch of donkeys challenging for the championship whilst playing some tidy football – he comes cheap & does as he’s told.

    right up the shopkeepers street.

    not that the current – errand boy – will be going anywhere anytime soon mind.

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    avatar Wellington says:

    worky tells us, “I certainly don’t have a problem a problem with differeing opinions, just ad hominem attacks and innuendo.”

    Yet this article states, “To the eye of the realistic, honest and well informed Newcastle United supporter, [Pardew's] incompetence does not go unnoticed” – in other words, those who believe that Pardew is competent are unrealistic, dishonest, ill-informed, or not Newcastle United supporters!

    Every editor makes mistakes, and I am sure this was an honest one. But why leave such a piece up? You have an obligation to free speech to allow anyone to comment as they choose. That doesn’t commit you to publishing any inflammatory rant that crosses your desk.

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    avatar ToonBano says:

    Wellington

    The realistic, honest and well informed supported is one that looks at our situation objectively (even taking off their black and white tinted glasses), is honest about what we are doing and where we are without burying his head in the sand or just resorting to the misguided ‘optimistic’ view of clutching at any straws they can find and know the ins and outs of the facts of this season for e.g. losing 10 out of 12 games, our set piece record, our long ball stats etc.

    For you to say those that do back Pardew must be the opposite is not what I was saying and has been manufactured by yourself.

    You can support Pardew but still be realistic, honest and well-informed about this situation. Why would you back him is up to you…

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Sorry if some of you Yanks or others who are behind on the clock were trying to log in early this morning. There was a bit of a problem with the server for a while.

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    avatar Jimbob says:

    I find it interesting that yesterday there were soundbites from Milan owner or president (whatever) that he likes Santon. Today the Chronicle speaks to him and he says he’s happy at Newcastle. That’s nice. When the Colo story came up last week we’ve still heard nothing from him, or the Chronicle. You would have thought the captain of the club would have been asked straight away, or if it wasn’t true he’d release some kind of statement.

    Judging by his performances, body language and the rest of the teams lack of belief, coupled with Pardew’s argument with him, it’s probably true he wants out. That would be catastrophic to the entire team if he’s had enough. Though I don’t think he’ll go this window, are likely awful league finish will not help retaining players like him, Cabaye, Ben Arfa etc. When you promise class players such as them that the club is ambitious, then not bother strengthening it in the summer, they’ll wonder why they are wasting their time, and want to move somewhere that wants to win things.

    Ashley and Llambias were proved to mislead fans in Keegan’s tribunal about transfers etc, I’m sure they are still doing it now with the help of Ryder and that. But they are also misleading the players when they get them to sign up. The team we played at Brighton could very well be the team we have at the start of next season if we go down. Anybody who still thinks we’re too good to go down hasn’t learnt a f’king thing.

    As for the Pardew lovers, that’s fine. But bare in mind we have had Cabaye, Ben Arfa etc in the team and we were still shite. We’re not where we are because of the last couple of results, it’s because we couldn’t beat Reading, Villa, West Ham, Fulham, Stoke and Southampton. He’s now put all the blame for league position onto players missing which is BS, but the man will never blame himself. So when they return, we’ll see what happens. If we still can’t win he’s gone and put himself in an untenable position. Next three games will seal his fate.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    roy cropper says:
    January 9, 2013 at 11:18 am

    “laurent blanc

    spelt – tony mowbray – in arkwright’s world.”

    :lol: Never thought of him Roy. Isn’t he a bit of a Smoggy legend who likes managing the ‘Boro?

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Jimbob says:
    January 9, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    “I find it interesting that yesterday there were soundbites from Milan owner or president (whatever) that he likes Santon.”

    Silvio “bunga bunga” Berlusconi no less Jimbob, the notorious ex Prime Minister of Italy and owner of Milan. The dirty old goat!

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Ravenmad1 says:
    January 9, 2013 at 7:14 am

    “He anyone actually thought that the cup match was a good thing, I mean can you imagine if we had won that and the run continued how many more matches would have to played, we are stretched wire thin as it is . So maybe losing at Brighton is not such a disaster, disappointing yes, but not the end of the world as we can now concentrate on league survival and maybe a little run out in Europe. Which to be honest is more important to the continued growth of this great club.”

    Surely that’s just an attempt to rationalise failure Ravenmad?

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    avatar roy cropper says:

    worky – aye he does.

    you know ash would – walk a mile to save a penny – so i’m just pointing out that he would fit his requirements nicely if the queer fella ever got the bullet.

    + he does try playing a decent brand of footy.

    and i dont think he’s that bothered about the sound of his own voice – he’s not smarmy nor is he stuck up his own arse.

    am pretty sure he doesn’t do bottox either.

    i think i could suffer him as a cheap alternative.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    roy cropper says:
    January 9, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    “+ he does try playing a decent brand of footy.

    and i dont think he’s that bothered about the sound of his own voice – he’s not smarmy nor is he stuck up his own arse.

    am pretty sure he doesn’t do bottox either.”

    Aye Roy, he does, he isn’t and I can see that!

    Honestly though, if Kinnear was ten years younger and didn’t have a ticking time bomb for a heart, I would even take him as a replacement for Pardew. Know nothings called him a “route one” manager when he was here because of his Wimbledon associations but he was a good manager who tried to play a decent brand of footy too. No one could ever accuse him of being “smarmy” or “up his own arse” either!

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    avatar Wellington says:

    Toonbano – what you wrote is pretty clear, made all the more so by your option that anyone who disagrees with you is either “burying his head in the sand or just resorting to the misguided ‘optimistic’ view of clutching at any straws”.

    Obviously, you can write what you like. What I still want to know is why the editor of this blog publishes this sort of thing while claiming to be against ad hominem attacks!

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    avatar tunyc says:

    A lot of people on here would keep an ineffective manager in a high-stakes business where nothing matters but results. Interesting.

    Also a lot of obtuse people here. Did you not notice how the writer clearly thinks we COULDN’T/WON’T get Blanc? Then again, there are those who are too put off by his lack of experience and prefer the well-known mediocrity that is Pardew.

    These people are also not alarmed by AP’s post-match and other comments to the press which add up to admitting that he can’t affect what happens on the field. And it’s all good that he gets the plaudits when we succeed but when we fail…it’s ALWAYS someone else’s responsibility.

    Also, a lot of user names I’ve never seen before now…funny, that. Tut-tutting us for “pessimistic bullshit.” Well hot damn, I guess it’s all sunshine & rainbows when you’re 2 points off relegation (one team below you with a game in hand) and your top scorer just walked out the door. Woot!

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    avatar workyticket says:

    We’re going to be the official NUFC Bloggers for the London “Metro” newspaper.

    http://metro.co.uk/sport/

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    avatar joe hawkins says:

    i’m not jumping on any bandwagon, because of a bad run of results, i have openly opposed alan pardew’s appointment from day one.
    it’s everyone’s right to back him if they feel the need, i just think he was a pointless shortsighted appointment, that was always going to end badly.

    lets be honest, he carried more luck than man u, last season, if that’s possible.
    he could have quite easily been in the same situation, this time last year, but we had a lucky run, and it covered up a lot of his obvious failings.

    we had some fortunate away wins, where we were played off the park, luck with injuries, and individual touches of brilliance by, demba ba, cisse, cabaye, ryan taylor, and ben arfa, which pulled pardew out of the crap, on many occassions.
    we were not doing anything different to what we are doing now, except we defended as a team, which is lacking this season.
    there were also signs in games against, fulham,norwich,liverpool, west brom at home, that tactically he is naive, and cannot change a game, when, things are going against him.

    we all know the folly of not investing upon last seasons punch above our weight campaign, so there is no point going into that.
    toonbano, i agree with everything you say, the two nutters at the top of this club, are utterly insane, and we live in constant fear, to what these heed the baals, might do next.
    there is only one way forward for this club, and it is without michael wallace ashley, and his version of the apprentice.
    we must been the only football club in britain, that provides on the job training schemes, for any layman to chance their arm.
    apprentice owners,
    apprentice managers,
    apprentice chairmen,
    apprentice DOF,
    stand in managers, for stand in managers.
    and all the other amateur half hour, and keystone cops buffoonery, since these idiots took over.

    the probem is with sacking the window fixer, is who would they appoint?
    my money would be on jumping up carver, as there is no way they would do what is right.
    they’ve said it themselves,”we look to promote fron within”, which really is just another fig leaf, to try and cover up the fact, they are a bunch of tightwads, who want to run a football club, on a shoestring, and use the name to promote, their own tacky business.
    it’s a s**t state of affairs, but it will continue to be the reality, as long as these jokers are here.

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    avatar tunyc says:

    Seriously, worky @ 115? That site clogs up my machine something awful so I’m not sure if there’s something that elaborates at the link…

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    avatar tunyc says:

    joe @ 116: hear, hear!

    For me the only problem here that when I first saw this post, I actually thought we’d been relieved of AP.

    *sighs*

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    avatar workyticket says:

    tunyc says:
    January 9, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    “Seriously, worky @ 115? That site clogs up my machine something awful so I’m not sure if there’s something that elaborates at the link…”

    What do you mean tunyc? It seems ok on my machine, and definitely nothing like the Chronic and many other with those awful auto play ad videos and suchlike. I wish that Barry Scott gadgie would F off with his Cillit friggin’ Bang!

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    avatar DarthBroon says:

    I’d take Raymond Blanc over Pardoo, never mind Laurent.

    He couldn’t do any worse and I bet the half-time pies would be fantastic :-)

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    avatar toontony says:

    workyticket says:

    We’re going to be the official NUFC Bloggers for the London “Metro” newspaper.

    Congratulations and well done worky, you’re a part of the London media now (LOL)! I haven’t read the paper as I don’t live in London, but I think I’ve seen some of their stories on Newsnow – I can’t remember much about them though. Hopefully you’ll change that! ;-)

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    avatar workyticket says:

    DarthBroon says:
    January 9, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    “I’d take Raymond Blanc over Pardoo, never mind Laurent.

    He couldn’t do any worse and I bet the half-time pies would be fantastic”

    It would be half time canapés surely, Darth?

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    avatar workyticket says:

    toontony says:
    January 9, 2013 at 6:16 pm

    “Congratulations and well done worky, you’re a part of the London media now (LOL)!”

    Cheers Tony! I may be boycoutted by some (like UTD111) though for collaborating with the enemy! :-) I’ve actually been a Londoner since the early ‘nineties.

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    avatar tunyc says:

    worky-I don’t know, but my machine (here at work!) won’t display the images and it takes a while to load up any of it. I’ll look again at home.

    Most importantly: congratulations!

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    avatar DarthBroon says:

    Worky

    Boef en croute, surely!

    I suppose I’d settle for can-apes if he could bring us a top five finish ;-)

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    avatar toontony says:

    workyticket says:
    Cheers Tony! I may be boycoutted by some (like UTD111) though for collaborating with the enemy! :-) I’ve actually been a Londoner since the early ‘nineties.

    LOL I didn’t know you’d been there all that time, what’s it like down there?

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    avatar workyticket says:

    DarthBroon says:
    January 9, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    “Worky

    Boef en croute, surely!”

    At Delia’s Norwich they get stuff like beef in red wine pies and cheese, mushroom and garlic pies so I’ve heard, and Delia’s restaurant there gets good reviews too.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    toontony says:
    January 9, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    “LOL I didn’t know you’d been there all that time, what’s it like down there?”

    I’ve never looked back since I came down here to be honest Tony. I’ve seen things down here in the past that I could have only dreamed about if I’d stayed up North. I’m a bit of a recluse nowadays though and I don’t get out and about as much I should.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    tunyc says:
    January 9, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    “Most importantly: congratulations!”

    Thanks tunyc.

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    avatar stewpot says:

    @worky

    congratulations mate, that’s fantastic news!

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    avatar pete_toon says:

    @worky – this is going to sound like a crap radio phone in introduction “long time reader, first time poster”

    I’ve been reading this site for a couple of years now, and far prefer it to all the other toon sites. So, some of us who are the silent majority appreciate you mate. I’ll have to make more of an effort to comment in the future.

    Saying that – there’s a lot of criticism being bandied about on both sides of the debate on this article, and it seems to be coming down to each side thinking that only they have the right to be toon fans based on their opinions.

    I can see both sides of the argument here, and I agree with parts of both sides – yes, we need to get behind the players and let them know they have wor support. That’s why we turn up week after week and sing our hearts out. However, we can’t bury our head in the sand and ignore the fact that my dog has more tactical awareness than Pardew (at least Pards would be more entertaining if he licked his balls at half time). I blame all the other managers in the PL for despicably employing tactics against us – damn them for finding out what his Kryptonite is.

    Anyhoo – enough rambling from me and lets hope we turn Norwich ower at the weekend.

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    avatar tunyc says:

    welcome aboard, pete-but be careful of false equivalencies. Nobody but nobody of those above who are criticizing Pardew &/or AshleyCo have ever suggested anyone shouldn’t support the team on the field. I get up as early as 6-7am on Saturday or Sunday here in the states to watch our matches-when we’re winning, losing or otherwise. I spent thousands to make the pilgrimage to SJP. It’s beyond irritating to have my support for the club questioned because I’m willing to criticize our owner and manager. Reminds me of folks over here calling me “un-American” because I don’t support every policy implemented by our thoroughly-addled ruling class.

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    avatar pete_toon says:

    Cheers tunyc – wasn’t meaning to suggest that there were any suggestions like that. My apologies to anyone who read it like that.

    I actually meant it to read that the one thing we were all agreed on is that we were behind the players; it’s the unholy three that we’re concerned about. I never thought I’d miss Mort.

    OT – at least Ameobi got off the Nigeria call up.

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    avatar Nutmag says:

    Sorry if I bore anyone but I have said this all before.
    Saw my first game in 1948. Had to cycle 20 miles to SJP and back in the good old north east weather.There was’nt a lot of shelter inside the ground either.Things got a little better when I started as an apprentice chef in Newcastle working split shifts I could just make the match in my break.Then my NS army training days down south traveling up to games packed into an old beat up van on saturday and start back Sunday morning.this was pre motorways days. Even living in Kent and now in Warwickshire Ive driven to games quite often swearing never to do it again on the way back after yet another dire performance.Guess what I think Pardew is a numpty and if that means I’m not a supporter by the Pro Pardew lot I could care less what they think.

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    avatar toontony says:

    pete_toon, I have never seen anyone on this site not getting behind the players, unlike some on the other blogs who are constantly having a go at poor Danny Simpson, Williamson and others sometimes. The funny thing is though that they’re usually the same ones who come on here accusing us of ‘not getting behind the team’ if we criticise Ashley Llambias or Pardew – they’re total hypocrites.
    You’re right about one thing though, this is the best nufc blog by miles thnks to worky. I used to be like you, I read this blog for a long time before I started commenting and I don’t really comment on any other blogs. Once you start commenting it’s hard to stop though!

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    avatar toontony says:

    Sorry, I forgot about chuck. He doesn’t like Williamson very much but he’s the only one I’ve seen on here

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    avatar workyticket says:

    pete_toon says:
    January 9, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    “@worky – this is going to sound like a crap radio phone in introduction “long time reader, first time poster”

    I’ve been reading this site for a couple of years now, and far prefer it to all the other toon sites. So, some of us who are the silent majority appreciate you mate. I’ll have to make more of an effort to comment in the future.”

    Thanks alot Pete, and it’s great to see you commenting at last after all this time!

    On the rest of your comment I’m afraid I agree with tunyc, and especially toontony.

    We get Stormtroopers coming on here from time to time accusing us of “not getting behind the team,” and repeating parrot fashion all the bollocks spoonfed to them by Ashley and his cipher if there’s a post which is critical of Ashley, Llambias or Pardew in some way. However, quite a few of them contribute on other blogs too, and as Tony suggests, without tarring them all with the same brush either, I’ve noticed a few regularly rip certain players apart from the point of view of little or no football knowledge. This is especially true of the two he mentions, Williamson and Simpson, but also others too. He’s right to say that the ones who do that are hypocrites too.

    The ones who barrack us as poor fans for being critical of Pardew more often than not put the blame for the team’s current plight squarely on the shoulders of the players. I’m not saying this was by one of those people, but I recall someone on another blog (.com I think it was) even blaming our capitultion at Arsenal entirely on Danny Simpson, even though Arsenal scored their four winning goals after he’d been taken off! I’m surprised they didn’t blame Willamson too even though he didn’t play at all. It used to be the same with James Perch, not forgetting Shola Ameobi too.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Nutmag says:
    January 9, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    “Sorry if I bore anyone but I have said this all before.”

    I think I recall reading something like that once before Nutmag, but I enjoyed reading it again anyway. I like reading about the old days, it’s just the present day that gets on my tits! ;-)

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    avatar pete_toon says:

    workyticket says:
    January 10, 2013 at 12:28 am

    “On the rest of your comment I’m afraid I agree with tunyc, and especially toontony.”

    As I said in my follow up post, I hadn’t meant to suggest that people weren’t getting behind the team (I can’t see where I said that, but as I wrote that post I’m probably blind to seeing this and as three have seen this implication, then I’m missing summat in me wording – I’ll have to work on being clearer – crap, that sentence is about as clear as mud).

    What I was getting at was the implications in some of the comments that if you weren’t behind the Silver haired numpty, Lamearse and Cashley then you weren’t behind the team and that’s just complete horlicks.

    If I wasn’t behind the team, I wouldn’t scream my head off when the ball goes past the side of the net, or Cisse gets clattered off the ball. The fact that I’m always hoarse the day after the match is the indication that I’m behind the team – and my love for the team should not be conditional on having to accept that Pardew cannot work out how to bring a team from behind. FFS, we put 6 past Man U and Arsenal. You’d have thought that would be enough.

    As has been stated, it doesn’t look like Pardew gets much say in transfers, but he gets a lot to say about which players start each week, what the formation is, and what the substitutions are. The idea that he’s somehow above reproach is just plain stupid, and I cannot understand how anyone can think he’s doing a good job.

    Well, reading your post, and reading this, it looks like we’re in total agreement on this.

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    avatar chuck says:

    Wow!
    Some of the dumbest posts i have had the misfortune of browsing through, while looking for something with a bit of substance.
    Which boils down to the usual, get behind the side shit or ….
    The love it or leave it crap….
    Boring !
    On the other side, a repetition of the foibles of our owner and his minions, which are fairly apparent to all.
    But nothing of any real interest.
    How about a comment on Fox Sports and the effect it has on the EPL.
    Or the new rules in regard to how many home grown players we can have on the side.
    Do we need FIFA and EUFA, and will the Oligarchs co-operate, with both bodies if they believe their interests are threatened ?
    The same old arguments, constantly re-hashed day after day, become boring, no?
    Anyhow you are going to have to come up with some more interseting comments if you are to retain my interest aqui, comprende ?

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    avatar chuck says:

    Want me to go through my days as a boy @St James’ Park ?
    Entering on that series of stairways, with vegetation growing where there was no concrete.
    Talking bout the buttressed gallowgate end.
    Having paid my one and three entrance fee and gone through the turnstyle, immediately headed for a spot on the 12″ by 12″ fence at the back of the east end close to the gallowgate.
    No being sent down to the front for me, (yeah had been subgugated too being passed over the heads of the adults, too the front) with the other kids.
    But had found the ideal alternative.
    I could watch from the top standing on that sturdy twelve by twelve and watching Bobby Mitchell, taking on the designated (poor barsteward) right back who i was guaranteed to see beaten by Mitchell, any number of times.
    Sometimes returning to beat him again, before either laying on the perfect cross , or scoring himself.
    Hey the guy did it for eleven years, my hero.
    Ginola ? Robert ? pale immitations of wor Bobby and half as entertaining, thats what i’m talking bout.
    Hey those were the days, i will never forget when the side came out of the tunnel, kicking the ball around in an electric atmosphere and fifty thousand plus Geordies roared “Howeah Newcasiiile”.
    Believe me, still sends tingles up my spine thinking about it.
    Nowt better than a good win, eating dinner afterwards and looking forward to reading the football final edition of the chronicle, with all the standings of every team in the area.
    Makes what we have to-day a bit mundane actually.
    Can you remember it Nutmag ?

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    avatar subz00 says:

    @61 “Strangely its the football that entertains me most with NUFC, not calling people names and trying to get yet another manager sacked.”

    That is very strange indeed my friend, barring the 2 games over the holidays the words football and entertaining should not be used in the same breath in regards to NUFC under AP this season.
    You maybe happy to go and blindly cheer on the team regardless? but many of us can still see what this squad is capable of if they weren’t in the hands of a cretin..

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    avatar joe hawkins says:

    there was an article in the daily mirror this morning, about marseille’s coach saying loic remy needs to up his game, as he’s only scored two goals, this term.
    okay, typical nothing in the scheme of things, news item, and the article seems pointless.
    there are a couple of sentences that seem like they came straight from barrack road, or sources close to them.

    “newcastle are prepared to be patient to land the right man, and will refuse to pay over the odds, believing yohan cabaye and hatem ben arfa could play the “no 10″ withdrawn role strike role if no deal is done”.

    is that not like school of frankfurt subversion technique, or what?
    you can see exactly what is going to happen here, they are already trying to get out of spending any money.
    typical ashley!, he has his usual window profit, and he’s created his illusion, of being active in the window.
    either that or pardew will get the sack, if norwich turn us over, either way fatboy is getting ready to cover his bases.

  144. 144
    avatar pete_toon says:

    I’m intersted in the idea that we could be doing a swap with Man City for Javi Garcia, with them offering him as a player + cash for Cabaye (Cashley will go for that big time if there’s cash coming in). Problem with Garcia is that he’s got no pace to him, and that’s caused him trouble in the past

    I see the Chron is reporting we may be moving sooner for Aubameyang if we can’t get Remy – to be honest, I don’t think we’ll land Remy (at least not in this transfer window), so that could be an option, and as Aubameyang is cheaper, I’m betting that would be the option that the fat one takes.

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    avatar tunyc says:

    pete-sorry if I’ve miscast your post above. You’re position is completely reasonable.

    As for that Garcia-Cabaye thing, I wouldn’t say I’m interested so much as terrified by the idea. I think going the rest of the season without Cabaye in the team will see us relegated. He’s very important and he and HBA are not quite the same player-the latter having yet to show he can play centrally in the PL. Anyway, where you seeing that rumor?

  146. 146
    avatar tunyc says:

    chuck-if our posts bore you, consider it payback!

    (though I do enjoy everyone’s posts about the aulden dayes!)

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    avatar pete_toon says:

    @tunyc – found more details on the Garcia deal – it’s now reported to be a summer deal. More info now available here: http://www.dexysden.co.uk/?p=11881&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UkFootballFinderMemberArticles+%28Dexy%27s+Den+-++The+UK%27s+%231+Football+Blog%29

    I’m glad that the position has been clarified – I don’t think we can afford to do without Cabaye, and you’re right – that would have shafted wor chances for the rest of the season.

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    avatar pete_toon says:

    As far as the aulden days go, I’m a newcomer to Newcastle. I only go back to ’78.

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    avatar Nutmag says:

    Chuck@141
    Remember it? I re-live it on a regular basis.Bobby Mitchell was a favourite of mine too Little Ernie Taylor had his moments too.The whole atmosphere of the place was different.Its a pity the younger fans can’t experience it.Funny but you could always rely on the team to give 100% every game and I never feeling let down or cheated when we lost,or is that just the memory playing tricks.As you said once Chuck “At least we were around in the good times”.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Pete, sorry I haven’t got back to on your last comment yet, but I’m writing my first Metro thing right now. I’ll be back later.

    joe hawkins says:
    January 10, 2013 at 11:45 am

    “is that not like school of frankfurt subversion technique, or what?”

    Joe, perhaps a quick primer on the Frankfurt school might have come handy there for those who are unfamiliar with Marxist studies. ;-)

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    avatar tunyc says:

    pete @ 147:

    That source is a bit less than convincing, to say the least. Which is a good thing.

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    avatar pete_toon says:

    tunyc @ 151
    I’m hoping so, but this was the second time I’d come across this idea in the last 24 hours. I’m hoping that it’s just a case of chinese whispers.

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    avatar Grumpy Old-Toon says:

    Worky I had a look at the Metro link but couldn’t see what you are referring to, congrats anyway.

    When I started watching Newcastle Mitchell had started to be used as a midfield player (in todays parlance) he still was a classy player, Keeble was centre forward, happy days.

    With relevance to this blogs theme I watched the Real Madrid Copa Del Ray game and was thinking (along the lines of similar fantasy to the Laurent Blanc one) that I would love to have Jose as our manager. He is so passionate and committed to his teams and he has them so well trained that pitch to field communications seem to be well understood by the players. It’ll never happen though, not under the present regime.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Nutmag says:
    January 10, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    “As you said once Chuck “At least we were around in the good times”.”

    Nutmag, you oldies can’t make up your minds. One minute it’s “you young buggers don’t know you’re born! Back in my my day there was National Service, rationing and you were lucky if you got a piece of bread and dripping to eat after a hard day down the mines!” Next minute it’s “Ahhh, the good old days…” :-)

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Grumpy Old-Toon says:
    January 10, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    “Worky I had a look at the Metro link but couldn’t see what you are referring to, congrats anyway.”

    Thanks Grumpy. I’m still writing my first piece so there’ll be nothing there yet. I’ll write a blog about it or something later on…

  156. 156
    avatar workyticket says:

    BTW, if anyone’s looking for potential strikers for the Toon, check out Vitesse Arnhem’s Wilf Bony. He scores a goal a game, has a funny name and can also drop back into an attacking midfield or second striker position. What more could you ask for?

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    avatar tunyc says:

    Honestly worky-I don’t know how you do it. Seems like I’ve been considering new strikers for the Toon since before we got Shearer. I’m kinda over it at this point. But to answer your question: a low buy-out clause or a row between him and his current club?

    grumpy-absolutely right about Mourinho. He had little patience for a meddling owner who gave him truckloads of money to spend.

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    avatar stewpot says:

    @worky

    bong & bony, it’s like a kid’s tv programme.

    @joe

    yes, some background into the “frankfurt subversion technique” would be appreciated. i googled it but haven’t time to trawl. some pointers would be appreciated.

  159. 159
    avatar workyticket says:

    tunyc says:
    January 10, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    “Honestly worky-I don’t know how you do it. Seems like I’ve been considering new strikers for the Toon since before we got Shearer. I’m kinda over it at this point. But to answer your question: a low buy-out clause or a row between him and his current club?

    grumpy-absolutely right about Mourinho. He had little patience for a meddling owner who gave him truckloads of money to spend.”

    I guess I’m just a sad bastard who spends too much time watching Euro football tunyc.

    Nothing that I know of, he just scores alot and doesn’t seem to have a huge price on his head. Cheick Tiote should know him too as he’s a fellow Ivory Coast International.

    Perhaps Mourinho would consider moving to a club with a meddling owner who gives him buggerall money? :lol:

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    avatar Nutmag says:

    Worky@154
    No the the good times refered only to Newcastle United actually winning “CUPs”Cycling 20 miles to SJP and 20 mile home was a bit of a bind. Then working six day week split shifts for £2-5s-0d PW was no picnic. Still I would and could cycle those same miles if The Toon were winning things!

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Nutmag, back when the Magpies were winning cups, didn’t “Supermac” (the Prime Minister, not the Striker) say “You’ve never had it so good”? :-)

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    avatar chuck says:

    Worky
    It’s not about whether one era was better than another.
    It was about the difference.
    Sure the fifties were not exactly what could be described as happy days.
    With the post war reconstruction, rationing still in effect and the end of lend lease, things were tough.
    Though the North east had more or less full employment, with shipyards, steel mills, coal mines, all the heavy indusry’s going full blast.
    Pre television days, where most Saturday afternoons St. James’ Park was bursting at the seams, with fifty thousand plus crammed to-gether on the terraces.
    There was no catching highlights on the telly, had to be there.
    Certainly a simpler time, less complicated, some of the fans having to go to the game, directly from work, having to work a half day Saturday.
    And yes as Nutmag sez, no one criticised either the manager or players, the board sure, especially when they sold favorite players, (some things dont change)
    Plus there was the opportunity to see guys like Stan Mortinsen, Tom Finney, Stanley Mathews, Wor Jackie,Albert Stubbins, etc.
    An unsegregated crowd with great banter, unlike to-days fans who barely converse with each other.
    Aint the same, something jaded about the atmosphere, probably relates to the times we are in.
    Just a very different expierience.
    And were i to choose between them, the early experience was a happier and more stimulating one, though that may have been a reflection of both youth and the times.

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    avatar danny b says:

    wow I feel young reading these comments I’m only 23 and I have had enough fook knows how u can still have faith lol

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    avatar chuck says:

    Erm! Actually we had won our last FA cup before Mc Millan, came to power, it was Churchill who was PM during our run of cups.
    Succeeding Atlee in 1951, ill health brought Eden in to replace him,in 1955 who had more or less no choice but resign in 57. following the Suez canal debacle.

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    avatar tunyc says:

    Now I could get behind a player named “Bong”!

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    avatar workyticket says:

    chuck says:
    January 10, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    “Worky
    It’s not about whether one era was better than another…”

    And it also depends on who you are Chuck. I myself prefer many aspects of how things were back in my day, and there are many aspects of contemporary life which boil my piss.

    However, if I wax nostalgic about the old days to any of my friends who happen to be black, Asian or whatever who were also around back in those days, I can be sure that they will give me a very different picture, and with VERY good reason too. Actually, I have and they have. Not being able to walk home without fear of abuse or even an attack, mistreatment by the bizzies, offensive and demeaning terminlogy, you know all the stuff…

    At least that’s one thing which is better now, though still not perfect by any means.

  167. 167
    avatar Nutmag says:

    worky@161
    Come on Worky everybody knows Supermac was a Tory I thought you were clever enough never to believe them.Oops politics another ball game all together.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    chuck says:
    January 10, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    “Erm! Actually we had won our last FA cup before Mc Millan, came to power”

    Aye, I know Chuck. MacMillan said that in ’57, around two years after the last FA Cup win. However it was roughly in the same era.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Nutmag says:
    January 10, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    “worky@161
    Come on Worky everybody knows Supermac was a Tory”

    At least he was, to use his own term, a “one nation” Tory. They got worse (and Labour did of course) after Thatcher the Milk snatcher with her Hayekian economics, her divisiveness and her sheer bloodymindedness. Evil old cow!

  170. 170
    avatar Nutmag says:

    Worky@169
    Just reading the word Thatcher changes my whole personality and hate is a waste of energy but I’ll waste it in her case.

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    avatar chuck says:

    Just came accros the Joey Barton interview from Nov.
    I must have read it, cause i made a comment, but it really reinforces, from what information i get, what goes on behind he scenes at this club.
    Namely, Llambias takes care of the unsavory stuff, Ashley does’nt want to be associated with and apparently relishes the image of being a big bad hit man.
    When in fact he’s a despicable piece of shit, who does exactly what he’s told, when he’s told.
    Hey Joey! lets face it he’s a bit of a sociopath and a bit delusional about who he is.
    But i get a kick outta the guy, pulls no punches, verbally or otherwise.
    Plus his rant confirms my belief that both he and Nolan were targeted by Pardew from day one, as his biggest problem.
    And while professing to like them, had them listed as first out the door if he was to control the dressing room.
    Which was taken care of in record time.
    Yeah, so that was the problem, talking about Hughtons sacking, he could’nt get the players to sign the bonus sheet.
    Erm thanks for doing a great job in getting us back among the big money of the EPL, now fkuc off !
    Hey i know some may take umbrage with this, but i hope Norwich gives us a hammering, bit of Schadenfreude, plus anything to get this grey gadgie outta here and hopefully his idiot boss Llambias.
    Only dont really see it happening and if it did, from what we have learned about Ashley, we’d end up with more of the same, ah well, some day he will be gone.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    chuck says:
    January 10, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    “I must have read it, cause i made a comment”

    :lol: It’s definitely old fogies day on NUFC Blog!

    On Joey Barton, I tend to prefer honest, reformed characters to these pompous “goody two shoes” types who think they can pontificate on stuff they know nothing about.

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    avatar chuck says:

    Worky
    Of course i understand, that post ww2 immigrants were not exactly welcomed with open arms, the UK was certainly no paradise for them.
    It not only applied to people of color, but your nearby neighbors the Irish, who were looked on as a bit suspect, with their different religion and social behavior.
    Both also accused of taking jobs from native born.
    All of the predjudices associated with xenophobia.
    However strangely enough the early fifties saw few immigrants of color, in the North East mostly south asians.
    Even to-day it appears the general area surrounding Newcastle seems to have fewer people of color than many areas of the country.
    But NUFC appear to be adressing that issue by bringing in a good number of Africans, which quickly seem to be accepted by the fans, unlike in some areas of the country.
    The exceptions being the local Ameobi brothers, who tend to take some stick, now and again.

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    avatar Nutmag says:

    Worky
    I we’ve got nowt better to de on a Thorsda neet My village pub is now a very posh restaurant not the place for a swift half and a chat as it used to be so I’ll stick around here and annoy the young uns until its time for my cocoa and bed.

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    avatar roy cropper says:

    nutmag

    you know what they say – staying in is the new going out.

    treat yourself to a nice bottle of scotch – enjoy a nice meal – relax in a comfortable chair & reflect on those good days gone by.

    goodnight.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    chuck says:
    January 10, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    “Worky
    Of course i understand, that post ww2 immigrants were not exactly welcomed with open arms, the UK was certainly no paradise for them.”

    Well it certainly wasn’t as bad as it was on your side of the pond with stuff like official racial segregation, the KKK and lynchings etc, and it still isn’t. ;-)

    Aye, your spot on about Newcastle in comparison with cities such as Leeds / Bradford, Manchester / Salford, Birmingham etc. It did used to be slightly behind the times up there. Rather than looking at the current black African players in the side, I think it was players like Andy Goal and Sir Les who changed things quite alot on that front. If the Ameobi’s get knocked, I certainly don’t think much of it is for racial reasons, it just a more general bias, a bit like yourself with your own biased rantings about the white Iron Mike! ;-)

  177. 177
    avatar workyticket says:

    Nutmag says:
    January 10, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    “Worky
    I we’ve got nowt better to de on a Thorsda neet My village pub is now a very posh restaurant not the place for a swift half and a chat as it used to be so I’ll stick around here and annoy the young uns until its time for my cocoa and bed.”

    Nutmag, sorry I was ignoring you for a while there. Besides the odd bit of my usual gainful employment, I was completing my first Metro Blog, setting up my profile and the other tedious stuff, and checking things out on there and writing to one of the editors to see how it all worked regarding house rules and so on.

    Also, apologies to all for the lack of a blog today. I was going to complete my latest epic earlier, but with all the stuff I’ve mentioned above, I just didn’t get the time. Hopefully, all the distraction will be good for this blog in the long run though.

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    avatar stewpot says:

    nufc.com are carrying the colo back argentina story from the independent… and they don’t usually indulge in idle gossip!

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    avatar workyticket says:

    “The San Lorenzo thing arises because of a personal matter, and because his father is at the club. He has only just renewed his contract six months ago.

    “These stories always generate a buzz and generate illusions, but they are just illusions and nothing more. These things written I just cannot believe.”

    Captain Colo’s agent.

  180. 180
    avatar workyticket says:

    If I was a footballer and my name was Frank Feltscher, I wouldn’t over keen to play in the Premiership, or any club in the UK for that matter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2wdp9QvU-U

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    avatar Scott says:

    The independant has an article with direct quotes from the president of valenciennes in France, sayi.g we have made a firm offer for their Cameroon international left back Gaetan Bong. He says they won’t be selling anyone unless he can replace ‘em though. can’t be arsed to type out quotes and that as I’m on the mobile, but I’m sure you’re all capable of looking yourselves.

    Just another bloke to bemoan the loss of cone ACoN time though. I’d stay clear of African gadgys for that reason personally.

    Can’t wait to hear the songs for him with a handle like that!

  182. 182
    avatar workyticket says:

    Scott:

    “Newcastle are very interested, they have made an offer. We will wait and see. But I will not sell players unless I can replace them.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle-table-offer-for-cameroon-international-gaetan-bong-8446486.html

    I divven’t think he’s moving to the Premiership Scott, I just happened him when I was doing some research. I remember the name as I like foreign footballers with names that sound dirty in English. The famous ex Portuguese International goalkeeper “Quim” used to be a big personal favourite of mine.

    On the subject of Bong, I’ve recommmended above, and in my first piece for the Metro that the club go for Vitesse Arnhem and Ivory Coast striker, Wilf Bony. If they got both, it would be great to see a Toon double act called Bony and Bong!

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Scott says:
    January 11, 2013 at 1:10 am

    “sayi.g we have made a firm offer for their Cameroon international left back Gaetan Bong.”

    If I was his dad I would have named him “Bing” after Bing Crosby.

    And is it just me, or does “making someone a firm offer” always sound like a euphemism?

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    avatar chuck says:

    Looks like Pardew is under pressure.
    Having both Ba and Colo go public over his tactical choice of late.
    That and blaming the young players, as opposed to a lack of quality in depth, due to cheapness on the part of our owner.
    Which has to result in an unsettled dressing room.
    He cant blame Ashley so he’s threatening the young players with a clearout, which if it happens, how will we field a side from an already small squad.
    There is a deja vu feeling very similar to that we experienced when last relegated and if we go down this time, it’s not going to be easy to rebound.
    All the result of ignorance and parsimony on the part of our owner, who may now be panicking and may spend more than intended, in an effort to avoid the plunge.
    I believe we need to bring in more than one quality player, but not really impressed with some of the names being mentioned, with others far and away above any of Ashley spending limits.
    And who is that keen on joining a lower positioned epl club under threat of being relegated.
    Word gets around as to Managers, other players, owners etc.
    Never believed Remy would come here, he’s awaiting a better offer IMO, or wouldda already signed.
    Hopefully it’s not gonna be like the last window, a game of brinkmanship, but i’m willing to bet there’s a lot of lowball bids going in right now.
    Hey ! what ever became of Amalfitano and why was it we bought him again ?
    Oh yeah, our great chief scout, thinks he had the making of a footballer, yeah thats it.

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    avatar Scott says:

    Right chaps what’s the deal on Coloccini? It must’ve been at least a week ago when I first saw this line that he’d requested a move back to Argentina, then his agent gave the whole “only signed a new contract 6 months ago, not leaving at all statement” and I thought that was it all over and done with then. A crap story, put to rest by the players agent.

    Then this morning I put Facebook on and everyone seems to be full of “coloccini hands in transfer request”, “coloccini jumping ship etc” but as yet I haven’t seen anything anywhere reputable to suggest that this story has resurfaced, so where’s it all coming from? Surely its not just people only just catching on to an old story now? It seems to be too rife for that.

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    avatar joe hawkins says:

    it’s in the chronic, he wants to leave with immediate effect, for personal reasons.
    personally i think the unholy trinity is absolutely ruining our club, the sooner they all f**k off!, the better.

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    avatar pete_toon says:

    Scott says:
    January 11, 2013 at 10:56 am

    It’s in the Independent (here: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/exclusive-newcastle-in-turmoil-as-captain-fabricio-coloccini-asks-to-return-to-argentina-8447038.html). Got to agree with joe on this one – the cockney mafia are ruining us.

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    avatar tunyc says:

    BBC is carrying it too…apparently not yet a formal transfer request but he wants to leave for personal reasons or some such nonsense.

    That sound you just heard was the wheels coming off.

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    avatar sirjasontoon says:

    Game Over Insert Coin Mike Ashley :lol:

    The wheels are definatly falling off – can’t say I am surprised the club is rotten to the core.

    Can’t see us getting anything out of the Norwich game.

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    avatar pete_toon says:

    I had heard rumours of spats between him and Pardew. The personal reason might be that he has an allergy to clueless tossers.

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    avatar sirjasontoon says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFoSnDQl1BM

    Happier Days with Laurent Robert…a masterclass in finishing :)

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    avatar workyticket says:

    My first Metro blog:

    http://blogs.metro.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united-january-transfer-window-rumours-2013/

    This one was their idea. Now I can write what I like so long as it’s under 500 words.

    I hope you all leave a comment on there! :-)

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    avatar sirjasontoon says:

    Good stuff Worky !

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    avatar pete_toon says:

    That’s a cracking article there worky. And you managed to get bony and bong in there. I’d love them to sign just to hear the commentary on MOTD.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Cheers, Pete. I want Frank Feltscher from Grasshoppers. I’d love him to sign just to hear the commentary on MotD.

    And Gary Lineker and Alan Shearer having to discuss him afterwards.

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    avatar mindshaft says:

    Yup Pards has been humping Collos missus

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    avatar Milner says:

    So Colo going, does he play sat? i hope so, one farewell performance for the fans..

    we need at least 2 CBs this window – who’s out there??

    What will get for Colo – £8 million?

    so 2 x £4m CB signings?

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    avatar tunyc says:

    worky-nice column there. Will make sure to comment going forward (at work now, again).

    As for the “killauthor” thing-FFS, is stuff like this written about other clubs’ players?! I mean, it’s beautifully written, reminds me of stuff I read in Harper’s. But seriously? Coloccini? WTF?

    Getting back to football, two years on from the AC sale (just a reference), we still haven’t expanded the squad. Still need a forward or two, still need at least one CB, probably two and possibly a proper winger or AM. This sucks.

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    avatar tunyc says:

    Milner-Colo has virtually handed in a request and we’re talking about an Argentine club. We’ll be lucky to get 5M. Maybe they have a player worth taking. I’m gonna look at San Lorenzo’s squad.

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    avatar stewpot says:

    @tunyc

    couldn’t agree more mate, well-written but typical lazy stereotyping. 5 minutes wasted.

    “huge, billion-starred skies” we get them in northumberland too!

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    avatar Milner says:

    Tunyc,

    i’m seeing midfielder J. Buffarini (24 yrs)- 2 goals, 2 assists, lots of mins on the pitch.

    Or more importantly, striker D. Stracqualursi (25) 7 goals, 4 assists.

    but between u and me, i wouldn’t risk that on a broke d*ck dog.

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    avatar tunyc says:

    Milner-I hear you. Stracqualursi the most interesting and I recall his anonymous appearances for EFC.

    Basically, we’re screwed here.

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    avatar tunyc says:

    Three bits that stuck out from BBC’s preview of the game:

    -Norwich have scored the highest percentage of goals from headers of any PL team (38%)

    -No PL side have conceded more headed goals than Newcastle this term (11)

    Yikes. And for good measure, from the same preview:

    -The Magpies (17%) have played a higher proportion of long passes (35 yards or more) than any other Premier League team this season.

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    avatar tunyc says:

    Oh, also this:

    -Twenty points from 21 matches is Newcastle’s lowest ever points haul in the Premier League era.

    Think of the worst NUFC sides of the last 20 years. ALL OF THEM had more points at this stage of the season.

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    avatar Paulos says:

    So the story on skysports:

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8391267/Argentine-club-San-Lorenzo-set-a-deadline-in-bid-to-sign-Newcastle-s-Fabricio-Coloccini

    “Lammens added: “Coloccini’s arrival is very difficult. We can’t go out and buy him; we have always said that we depended on the desire of the player to rescind his deal.”

    Anyone care to explain what that quote actually means ? They say they can’t afford to buy him and surely they aren’t expecting us to just give him to them for free. Are the suggesting Coloccini needs to buy his way out of his contract or what ? It doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

    Wonder what the personal reasons are. I wonder if it’s a coincidence that him and Pardew had a well publicised falling out a few weeks ago.

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    avatar chuck says:

    A conflict of opinions, some claiming Colos. requested transfer to his old Argentino club, is related to a family problem, with his wife having returned home to Argentina.

    Must be an Argentino standard excuse, as i recall Tevez recently used that one.
    But having read the “Colo.loves the whores” article, that leaves me confused.

    Well anyway, i have no idea if it’s a family matter or he’s just had enough of the bullshit at this club.
    We all saw him give Pardew the cold shoulder, when he ran onto the pitch to hug him, the body language was unmistakeable.

    Apparently Ba, HBA, and Colo., all had differences of opinion about the kind of football Pardew insisted on playing (so did most fans) and there was a falling out.
    Would it surprise me if Colo. and possibly others have simply had enough of Pardew and his incompetence ?

    Pardews recent blame placed on the younger players, who were threatened with a cleanout, unless there was improvement, is probably hot air, as it’s my belief he has little control over such matters.

    Plus the fact ,why blame the kids, the real problem is a lack of quality in depth.

    But that would reflect on Ashleys unwillingness to bring in the neccessary players, therefore a threat to his job, which depends on being a yes man.

    After five years of this kind of shit, the fans must be sick and tired of how the club has been run, by an incompetent management system, that learns little by their mistakes, but continue to believe they have thing covered.

    FFS sell the club and go, so we can get on with being NUFC, without this ridicules ongoing saga.

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    avatar tunyc says:

    Paulos-they can’t afford him, simple as. I don’t know what they mean exactly. He’s starting the second year of his contract, so he couldn’t pull a Webster buy-out as far as I understand that. Even if he could, I’ve seen his wages estimated as high as 3M per annum which would leave him owing 9M or so. Not sure where he’s gonna come up with that.

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    avatar tunyc says:

    chuck-that “Colo Loves the Whore” thing is a story, that is a literary work, not journalism. Note that it’s undated. I think (?) it’s fiction. To be honest, not sure why worky linked to it. It’s proper cryptic.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    tunyc says:
    January 11, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    “-The Magpies (17%) have played a higher proportion of long passes (35 yards or more) than any other Premier League team this season.”

    They’ve nicked that from here but it’s slightly out of date now. It certainly did the job though.

    tunyc says:
    January 11, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    “To be honest, not sure why worky linked to it. It’s proper cryptic.”

    You have tp admit it’s a slight departure from the average Coloccini and Enrique story. I was also wondering how many people would click on it thinking he’d been caught in a bordello like Fat Freddy.

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    avatar stewpot says:

    @worky

    “I was also wondering how many people would click on it thinking he’d been caught in a bordello like Fat Freddy.”

    from what i’m hearing that isn’t a milliom miles away from the truth… as was the story. i assumed that’s why you’d linked it.

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    avatar tunyc says:

    So, huh?-this is more cryptic now. Colo was hooking up with eastern-bloc pros and his wife found out and ran back to SA? Now? I’m confused.

    Oh. Other clubs are signing players. Joy.

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    avatar stewpot says:

    @tunyc

    all speculation but what’s known is his wife and kids are back in argentina. the reason why is the subject of a fair bit of innuendo.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    tunyc says:
    January 11, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    “Oh. Other clubs are signing players. Joy.”

    The France thing is so last season. We should be Spain like the Great Dane.

    My picks:

    Wilf Bony (24 year old striker / second striker / attacking midfield) Goal machine.
    Adam Maher (19 year midfield / attacking midfield) Little Prodigy – A top player at 18.
    Mateo Musacchio (22 year old defender) Very cultured young Argentinian Centre Back. Colo Junior.

    And if we want a token English player, perhaps James Tomkins?

    There are a fair few excellent players who are gagging for a move to the Premiership in Spain now though. My first port of call would be relegated Villareal, where Musacchio plays currently and possibly Celta Vigo, though Graham Carr might bump into Laudrup loading another top Spaniard in the back of his people carrier there.

    We should take a good look at Taison when we play Metalist too. Chelsea were buying him for £8.5 million (he’s worth more), but a new Oligarch’s taken over and he hates Abramovich. We should slip in there because he’s a Brazilian Benny. £12.4 million release clause.

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    avatar tunyc says:

    Well, I’d certainly take a trip to Spain on someone else’s dime if I could swing it.

    Re: Musacchio-last I heard he had some very successful clubs interested in him. I’ve also heard that Ashley doesn’t care for taking part in bidding wars.

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    avatar stewpot says:

    aubamayang was truly awful this evening, has been for 3 months now… sissoko didn’t really catch the eye either and missed a sitter but looks decent on the ball.

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    avatar GS says:

    Worky: what about Ince as the token English player? Out of our price range?

    I will admit I have never seen him play, I am going by the hype.

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Aye GS, he’s a great little player but he’s only played in the Championship and that would be too obvious. You should know by now that I like to take the road less travelled and dig out slightly less obvious players. I wouldn’t say he was too dear from the prices being bandied around for him (£6 million ish) but he might go for alot later and we’ll think it was daft not to get him before, like Moses.

    If I was in Graham Carr’s sheepskin, I’d be monitoring the players I mentioned above and lots more I haven’t with Toon’s strategy.

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    avatar sandybaz says:

    Could have the best manager at the toon and we would still have our ups and downs.Until we get in people who actually understand what this club is about and the passion of the fans then we are going nowhere.

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