Coloccini not thinking about Summer move – His full Fox interview translated.

Fabricio Coloccini.

Captain Colo: Wants to focus squarely on Newcastle.

In an interview with Fox Sports conducted in Spanish when he was on duty with the Argentinian national side in Sweden, Newcastle United captain Fabricio Coloccini gave more insight into his plan to escape from Newcastle United and return to his home country.

Carefully selected excerpts of his thoughts have been translated and published on English sites here and there. However, as there didn’t seem to be a transcript of the whole part relating to his current Toon – San Lorenzo imbroglio, I thought I’d have a bash myself, and the results are below. I also translated his previous Coloccini’s open letter to San Lorenzo on the same issue some time ago.

Interviewer: “What happened? Why didn’t you play in San Lorenzo and why did you stay in Newcastle?”

Coloccini: “Let me be clear that there are many versions, some of which were lies and some which were right to some extent. At the moment you know that I had spoken with people from Newcastle to go back to Argentina for personal motives, all San Lorenzo did was open their doors and give me all the support I could get, beyond playing or not playing for San Lorenzo. Of course I said that if I could dissociate myself from Newcastle they wanted me to play there, and the illusion was mine too because I’m a fan. But hey, I was not going to untie myself from Newcastle because I wanted to go to San Lorenzo. There was nothing I could do … The issue was that I wanted to return to Argentina for “x” reasons and well, after San Lorenzo emerged it became part of the story of San Lorenzo.”

Interviewer: “What, you owed ​​money? Because that was put in place in Argentina. That you wanted to go and that was the way to pay the debt that they had with ​​you.”

Coloccini: “No, not at all. In Newcastle they have treated me in an excellent way. I am grateful to this day to the people, the fans, the club also. The only situation was that I needed to return to Argentina for personal reasons. Then, as I said in the letter, many things were out of my hands. Newcastle fought for their interests and they had the last word. The situation is not something that was intended… Not that there was a strategy to return to San Lorenzo… Nothing could be done…”

Interviewer: “You didn’t have to renew your contract in October…”

Coloccini: “Firstly, it would not have been possible not to renew my contract. Secondly, I had found my home to live in Newcastle to be with my family. So I had already prepared everything to spend the 4 years I have left in Newcastle. After these problems arose and I decided to talk to the club to ask them to please let me go, I needed to be in Argentina and all hell broke loose.”

Interviewer: “So we have to wait a few months to open the book again. It will be a new chapter…

Coloccini: “If. The truth is that I am not thinking about it, what comes in May and June, because I want to focus squarely on Newcastle. I think I owe them for the way they have treated me in the last five years and I want to give ny best on the pitch. And then, well, we’ll see later. The idea of returning to Argentina remains because I need to.”

Interviewer: “Many fans were hoping for your return,.. What messages do you have for them all?”

Coloccini: “It’s hard because I cannot speak as a fan and as someone who is inside the club. The message is the same as we are all fans of San Lorenzo and we should support the team and get the maximum points possible. I hope we start well and put up a good fight for what we all love, which is the Championship. Well, today there has been much talk of winning the Championship, but first I’d like to win the necessary points (for Newcastle to avoid relegation I presume – wt) and then fight another fight, whatever comes.” (Ba’s hooter? – wt).

And there it is. It seems that he’s still unwilling to be pinned down and give a categoric answer one way or the other. But meanwhile, mouth almighty, Pardew, had this to say on the mess:

“Coloccini is going to stay with us and will remain as captain, which is fantastic news for us. We have managed to persuade him that, as much as his family, we need him. He has shown fantastic loyalty to come and play and see us through to the summer at the very least.”

Who knows? Perhaps his personal circumstances will change between now and the Summer, perhaps they won’t – We shall see in the fullness of time.

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64 Responses to “Coloccini not thinking about Summer move – His full Fox interview translated.”

  1. 1
    avatar DJG says:

    I think it is quite telling they have his full replacement lined up. A full international sitting on the bench, do you think they would have spent that sort of money if they didn’t think he was leaving either in Jan or, at the very latest, in the summer. In the mean time we have real competition perhaps everywhere but CF, it’s a bit bizarre.

  2. 2
    avatar workyticket says:

    DJG says:
    February 5, 2013 at 11:59 pm

    “I think it is quite telling they have his full replacement lined up. A full international sitting on the bench”

    He was Montpellier’s Captain too, DJG.

  3. 3
    avatar hesmagicyouknowwwww says:

    Spot on DJG especially central midfield is unbelievably stocked. I think Anita’s done well and gets a bit undeserved stick, Biggys done really well and Perch too and I think all three have a case to be ahead of Cheick who has been dreadful this year.

    Pards is also using Mapou there to ease him in to the prem and I think it’s probably best so Colo and Taylor can form that formidable partnership for the first 11 games last season. Play well, get us safe and Colo would go with my blessing as I have faith in Mapou, just not sure about Pardieu.

    Colo was class against the mackems then since Suarez had him on toast he was poor then the personal reasons thing come out then he’s really picked up since Norwich. Coinciding with Taylor back if he can stay fit like I mentioned earlier get back to the form of the first 11 games of last season add in Ben Arfa we’ll be OK

  4. 4
    avatar GS says:

    Rodgers may turn out to be a good manager but wake me up when he has actually done something. So far he has spent 50 million and I think they are one place above where they finished last year. He managed to alienate Henderson and Downing who it turns out arnt that bad and may actually fit his system. I am seeing speculation of Ben Arfa to Liverpool. I know they are a much bigger club than us but they arnt much better at the moment. I think he should stay with the frogs on the tyne unless a top 4 club comes in. I doubt if he would get along with Rodgers.

  5. 5
    avatar GS says:

    Worky: thanks for the translation. Someone must know what this “personal” situation is.

  6. 6
    avatar stevep says:

    To be fair, Brendan Rodgers is the best thing Ricky Gervais has done since the office

  7. 7
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    February 6, 2013 at 9:15 am

    “So far he has spent 50 million and I think they are one place above where they finished last year.”

    They’re in exactly the same place GS, but they’re still eight places above us.

    That three envelopes routine or however many it was in “Being Liverpool” looked like something out of “The Office” Steve. I still can’t figure that one out, it didn’t make any sense at all.

  8. 8
    avatar workyticket says:

    It’s been -20C in the Ukraine recently, yet Metalist Kharkiv are having a game against Whitley Bay before they play Newcastle to acclimatise themselves to the freezing North East conditions.

    http://www.newsguardian.co.uk/sport/local/ukraine-team-metalist-to-play-whitley-bay-ahead-of-newcastle-united-clash-1-5384527

  9. 9
    avatar stevep says:

    @worky – its to acclimatise to the warm weather man

  10. 10
    avatar chuck says:

    Hesmagic sez
    …Chiek who has been dreadful this year…
    And sugests Anita, Bigi and Perch, have a case for being ahead of him.

    I dont think so, Bigy still has a lot to learn, Anita is not the stopper either Bigy or Tiote is and who knows what Perch’s best position is.

    Dreadfull ? bit harsh innit?

    Brendan Foster ?
    Are you gonna equate a dumbass video, with his ability as a manager ?

    If you have watched Liverpool lately, you will see a different side.
    A team playing a modern possession game, in fact a big improvement.

    As for spending 50 million, on who ?
    They have brought in Allen and Sturridge, two decent additions.

    What i resent is for managers to openly tap up players via the media and then deny it came from them, but i suppose it’s impossible to prevent speculation.
    Talkig bout HBA.

    Anyway given the choice between Pardew and Rodgers, that’s a no brainer.

    We can all get a look at Wanga- Mbiwa, playing for France against Germany, this evening hopefully.

    Neufchateau, providing four of the French squad members.
    There’s a choice of Engerland vs Brasil or the French-German game and i would imagine most fans would opt to see the latter.
    Unless you enjoy a bitta humiliation.

    Actually both are being repeated later in which case, both can be seen, either on ESPN or Fox soccer channel.
    Alez les Bleus !

  11. 11
    avatar chuck says:

    Coloccini ?

    The guy’s been a good servant to the side, this is the first situation, that has caused upset.
    We really dont understand the circumstances and can only make assumptions.
    But it appears to be domestic in nature.
    Sure he can buy himself out of contract, but looks like he’s between a rock and a hard place.
    By doing that and going back to Argentina broke, when he had just signed what appears to have been a final and decent contract, with his retirement assured.
    The choices appear to either reach an accommodation, with the missus, (who will get her piece of the action regardless) during the summer, or reach some kind of accommodation with the club.
    But a cant see the “d’know ow orrible we can be” duo, giving him any breaks.
    Tough, we may loose a very good player.

  12. 12
    avatar GS says:

    Hmmm… Borini, Coutinho. I never said Rodgers was a bad manager just that he hasn’t proven anything yet except he can take a team that was built by someone else and continue in the same style and keep them in the premier league.

    That team seem to be doing OK without him.

    Some people seem to want to anoint him as the second coming of the special one when he hasn’t achieved anything – yet.

  13. 13
    avatar GS says:

    Cheers chuck @10. I didn’t realize the France game was on ESPN.

  14. 14
    avatar chuck says:

    Anyone catch the Joe kinnear interview ?
    Appears to be an interesting charachter and have a good understanding of the game.
    Of course the second heart attack, literally ended any continuation of a carrer in management.
    Curious, was Joe responsible for bringing Hughton to the clubd ?

  15. 15
    avatar GS says:

    I know Borini and Coutinho have hardly played, but the money was still spent.

  16. 16
    avatar chuck says:

    Just realized i had written Brendan Foster @ 10#
    Instead of Brendan Rodgers.
    No doubt, i will be notified, not a bad runner, Olympic silver medalist and notable tv commentator.

  17. 17
    avatar GS says:

    It is a very dangerous game to anoint a manager the next Mourihno, Ferguson, Clougg or Paisley. Worky has pointed out that our own Pardiola has followed in a long line of managers who were good for a season or 2 and then came back down to earth.

    You could say that Steve Clarke is a candidate for manager of the season, but what about next year?

    Martinez is in the relegation zone again.

    Adkins is gone.

    Lambert seems to be doing as good as he can given the lack of money and young players but they will do well to avoid relegation

    Rodgers is doing OK for a first season but he inherited good players and bought more.

  18. 18
    avatar chuck says:

    His successor @ Swansea inherited a pretty good side, which he brought up from the second tier, who play an attractive game.
    He’s been at liverpool for five minutes FFS, what do you want ?
    He’s a young guy who has just more or less completed his apprentice ship.
    Plus inherited a club that his predecessor spent on like a drunken sailor, most of who’s acquisitions would not have been his choice.
    Give him time and i believe he will do a good job at Liverpool.
    Or would you rather have Pardew?

  19. 19
    avatar chuck says:

    Martinez
    IMO has done a great job, simply by avoiding the drop.
    His sides, are bereft of any big money players, but play an attractive style.
    He is similar in certain ways to Moyes @ Everton, does his homework, works on a shoestring budget, manages to find inexpensive players, who he sells on for a profit.
    He can change the direction of a game with the right subs, and is tactically astute.
    I hope he gets Simpson on a free, as i think he will flourish there.
    What surprises me is the fact he has’nt been poached by one of the bigger clubs.
    Ashley could do a hell of a lot worse by replacing Pardew with Martinez.
    But that aint gonna happen, due to the Ashley/Whelan fued.
    I will predict a big club will come in for Martinez.

  20. 20
    avatar GS says:

    I agree with everything you said @18. That’s my point though. You were giving these young managers so much credit before they have proven anything.

    I think I gave Pardew too much credit by giving him the benefit of the doubt but he has been acting like a schizophrenic this season. If he stays out of the players way we might do OK. You never know with Pardew. He changes from Mr. Depressed to Mr. Ebullient depending on the result of ONE game.

  21. 21
    avatar GS says:

    Take a look at what Moyes has spent and you might be surprised. He got the money because of the idiots overpaying at Man City.

  22. 22
    avatar GS says:

    You know who Pardew reminds me of this season? Steve Bruce.

  23. 23
    avatar workyticket says:

    chuck says:
    February 6, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    “Anyone catch the Joe kinnear interview ?
    Appears to be an interesting charachter and have a good understanding of the game.
    Of course the second heart attack, literally ended any continuation of a carrer in management.
    Curious, was Joe responsible for bringing Hughton to the clubd ?”

    I listened to it earlier Chuck.

    I was trying to tell people that when he was managing Newcastle, but they didn’t believe me. They played some very nice football at Wimbledon when he was manager. I once went to see them beat Spurs 3-1, and they passed them off the park.

    No. that was Kev.

  24. 24
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    February 6, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    GS, as you seem to be picking managers of smaller clubs who underchieve rather than the obvious (purple nose of he wins the League again), you missed out the most obvious candidate of all, Michael Laudrup. He’s currently 8th and in the League Cup final in his first season with one of the most cheaply aquired squads in the Premiership, and his tactics and abilty to raise the level of his players are both excellent.

  25. 25
    avatar GS says:

    Worky @24: not in the least. I was looking at the young managers that C had lauded in the past without them having done much. Nothing really against them except to point out that they were up and coming then and are still up and coming now.

    I am not trying to wind him up. I could have pointed out that the Prince of Denmark was probably “the most likely to succeed” but then I would have been accused of sucking up. I thought about it, see what I said @12. I didn’t want C to tell me to F off again so I was being diplomatic.

  26. 26
    avatar GS says:

    Worky: are you sure about your translation ;) how do I know you won’t come up with another version just to confuse Chuck!

  27. 27
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS, while were on the subject of Laudrup, as well as not burdening younger talent with comparisons to illustrious predecessors, heve you ever watched the player they call the “new Laudrup”, Ajax’s Christian Eriksen?

    I’ve never done one of my blogs saying that Newcastle United should get him because I’ve always thought he’s out of Ashley’s league, but he’s a hell of a player.

  28. 28
    avatar maze202 says:

    Sissoko has the assist in Frances game, 1-0 up atm.

  29. 29
    avatar GS says:

    Maze202: I am recording the France game. You are doing a Likely Lads thing to me.

  30. 30
    avatar maze202 says:

    Haha sorry, I wont mention the score but I thought Cabaye played great.

  31. 31
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    February 6, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    “You are doing a Likely Lads thing to me.”

    Brian Glover, what a twat!

    Whatever happened to the likely lads? – “No hiding place.”

  32. 32
    avatar chuck says:

    Yeah, we are well aware of Worky and his constant praise of The Prince of Denmark.
    Whose winning streak has come to a screeching halt, having only two wins in the last ten games.
    Whereas the distained Rodgers has five wins outta the last ten, hell even M. O’N. has five outta the last ten with a resurgent Sunderland.
    Hopefully we can, with our recent additions, match both sides in wins.
    Thats if AP steps aside and lets the side play the way they know how, or can be instructed by the coaches.
    To compare managers at sides like Wigan and any of the top six, is like apples and oranges.
    And those in the lower half have to be twice as good as say a Mancini, who gets who he wants, no questions asked.
    It’s all abaht the dosh, innit !

  33. 33
    avatar workyticket says:

    chuck says:
    February 6, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    “Yeah, we are well aware of Worky and his constant praise of The Prince of Denmark.
    Whose winning streak has come to a screeching halt, having only two wins in the last ten games.”

    Three wins in their last ten games actually Chuck, against Fulham, Chelsea and Stoke. But keep going, you might actually get something right ones day!

  34. 34
    avatar GS says:

    Worky @31: Rodney Bewes had moobs even back then.

  35. 35
    avatar workyticket says:

    GS says:
    February 7, 2013 at 11:01 am

    “Worky @31: Rodney Bewes had moobs even back then.”

    I think it could be those very tight fitting 70s shirts GS. They weren’t flattering on the man boob front at all. You could hardly breathe in them too.

  36. 36
    avatar workyticket says:

    Virtually everything during that period was shit brown, orange and mustard coloured.

    And a hairy chest was something a man could be proud of.

  37. 37
    avatar joe hawkins says:

    the “bingo caller” has an in depth interview in today’s edition of “the chronic”.
    he’s spouting the same tired rhetoric, as per usual, it’s like a bout of “de ja vu”, because i get the distinct feeling, i’ve heard it all before.

    the real reason we hear from our fearless MD, is he is trying to flog off season ticket packages, for the rest of the home games.
    it will cost a 110 quid for anyone to take up their offer, and 55 quid for juniors.
    not a bad deal on the face of it, but a right kick in the testicles, for those who have shelled out hundreds, only a few months back.

    other points of interest are the departure of demba ba, and his intial signing on for us, which he refers to it, as “the abba deal”, you take a chace on us, and we’ll take a chance on you.
    it doesn’t get any better after his “11 purples statement”.
    according to dekka, “demba left us, and we replaced him”.
    hang on a minute!, who did we replace him with?, surely he cannot be talking about yoan gouffran.
    okay, he looks a decent addition to the squad, but he is not a replacement for ba.
    i just hope that doesn’t lead to any complacency, during the summer window, then again, with the “bingo caller” and co, handling proceedings, you never can tell.

  38. 38
    avatar Grumpy Old-Toon says:

    Worky, it was nice to see that you hadn’t started a thread along the lines of; Sissoko Injured in international friendly, out for 6 months. Or any of our new signings for that matter. Or anyone else on duty last night.

    Theo Walcott took a bashing last night I bet Arsene was wincing a bit.

  39. 39
    avatar chuck says:

    Worrky

    According to the BBC listing they (Swansea) have won two out of the last ten.
    I think knowing your penchant for being incorrect, i will accept their numbers.

  40. 40
    avatar DarthBroon says:

    workyticket says:
    February 7, 2013 at 11:54 am

    “Virtually everything during that period was shit brown, orange and mustard coloured.”

    If it wasn’t Prince Of Wales check, that is. And football pitches certainly weren’t green for very long – especially the six yard box, which looked like the floor of a pig pen at most grounds by November.

    RE The Likely Lads: I did have a thing for Bridget Forsythe as ‘Thelma, Pet. Those were the days :)

  41. 41
    avatar chuck says:

    The Chronicle it seem has become if not an official mouthpiece for NUFC (Ashley-PR Dept.) then the next thing too it.
    With articles like Llambias hoping Pardew will become the next sir Alex. at NUFC over the next twenty years.
    No i kid you not! it’s part of a News Now piece, and he’s not joking.
    Talk about the blind leading the blind.
    Though admitting they made a mistake in not strengthening during the summer
    FFS every dog in the street knew that.
    And hubris? is not being shown only by Pardew, Llambias has turned a situation of panic buying, into a major coup, though admitting they brought forward the buying of a couple of the five new major buys.
    Hoping to get the likes of Sissoko (who was a steal)for nowt.
    Why cant we get an owner like Usmanov, who is trying to get Arsenal’s other big money owners to start spending.
    Rather than a cheapass rag trade, chiseler.

  42. 42
    avatar workyticket says:

    DarthBroon says:
    February 7, 2013 at 6:15 pm

    “If it wasn’t Prince Of Wales check, that is. And football pitches certainly weren’t green for very long – especially the six yard box, which looked like the floor of a pig pen at most grounds by November.

    RE The Likely Lads: I did have a thing for Bridget Forsythe as ‘Thelma, Pet. Those were the days ”

    Aye Darth, Prince of Wales check in shit brown. The Yanks used to wear some truly horrible check jackets back in those days, even worse than ours!

    It was probably that pixie style hair do. I was shocked when I subsequently found out how many lads nursed a childish secret crush on Terry’s sister, Audrey. I thought it was only me! She’d probably be called a ‘MILF’ nowadays as she was in her mid thirties when the show was resurrected as “whatever happened to…”

    One of my acting mates who sadly died recently met Rodney Bewes a few times. He once confessed that he had a crush on Audrey too. (my friend, not Rodney Bewes!)

  43. 43
    avatar tunyc says:

    GS @5: absolutely…someone knows. I can’t believe it hasn’t come out.

    Chuck @ 18: What do I want? The same thing as GS-for folks to stop acting like he’s already had a sterling career filled with success. At this point, I’d still take a Moyes over him and if I were running a lower-table club I’d probably take a Pulis or even Allardyce over him.

    Martinez is an interesting one for me. Everything said about him is true; it’s equally true that his side spends a lot of time in the bottom three. They have had some talent too: Di Santo, N’Zogbia, Valencia, Palacios, Moses, Diame and others have played there under him. Several them actually have walked into the first team at bigger clubs. Yet I don’t blame Martinez. His sides play like developmental sides-they’re almost more into playing good football than winning. I do think you’re right, chuck, that a big club will come for him. And I think they’ll be rewarded for it. Same with Rodgers-but it hasn’t happened yet.

    worky @ 27: he’s brilliant…and is nailed on for a CL side…unfortunately just like Maher. You’re right about them both being sublime players.

    joe @ 37: I hear you there about complacency, especially if Colo and Simpson leave in the summer.

    Swansea have won 3 of their last ten fixtures: 2-1 to Fulham on 29/12, 2-0 to Chelsea in the league cup on 9/1 and 3-1 v Stoke on the 19th. Of their last 10 PL matches, they have indeed won 2, the Stoke and Fulham results already mentioned. So you’re both wrong!

  44. 44
    avatar chuck says:

    Another interesting article is the upcoming FFP rule to be introduced by the EPL.
    With West Ham Joint Chairman (owner) Gold, stating the majority of EPL clubs favor their introduction.

    Which has been described as imposing short term limits on wage rises and force clubs to work to-wards breaking even.

    Also stated was, “It’s not a salary cap, it’s a restraint on over spending”

    To which anyone with a brain, would understand as an attempt to impose an official salary cap, without any negotiation with the Players Association, agents , etc.

    Look in the US we have wage caps in most professionable sports, but they are reached by negotiations between the owners and the players associations (unions)
    With each sport having a different method of how the profit is divided.

    Face it who deserves what, without the owners there are no clubs, without the players there are is no game.

    We know the present direction of the EPL has been an enormous increase in earnings, from tv revenue, with even bigger increases to come.

    The result is for the EPL to become the worlds dominant league, watched by billions on a weekly basis.

    We have attracted many of the worlds best player and one has only to look at our recent absorbtion of French players to realise, what an attraction the EPL is for them.

    Look at Remy, any club, just let me play for big bucks, if they go down i can always play for anothe EPL side.

    Yeah it’s not because it’s the most attractive football, but the fact both the French and Spanish leagues, niether pay as much and are taxed more than their counterpats in the EPL.

    Hey a short career with the most reward, is that not the norm for not only Footballer but everyone.

    I can see a fight comming, between those wealthy clubs and the not so wealthy, that and any imposed wage caps, by the players and agents.

    Hell we could see a first strike in the game, if agreement is not reached, and just because the FA and owners make a decission, does’nt mean they can make it stick.
    At least i hope not, greedy bahstids

  45. 45
    avatar workyticket says:

    tunyc says:
    February 7, 2013 at 7:06 pm

    “worky @ 27: he’s brilliant…and is nailed on for a CL side…unfortunately just like Maher. You’re right about them both being sublime players.”

    Christian Eriksen perhaps, that’s why I wrote that I’d never mentioned him before because he was almost certainly out of Ashley’s league. I’m not so sure about Maher though which is why I have mentioned him on several occaisions. I wanted us to go for him some time ago though, from the time when I was watching Verthonghen to get in before the more free spending clubs.

    “Of their last 10 PL matches, they have indeed won 2, the Stoke and Fulham results already mentioned. So you’re both wrong!”

    No tunyc, I’m right because Chuck wrote “last ten games,” not last ten Premiership games.

  46. 46
    avatar chuck says:

    tunyc
    I dont care what Swansea does outside the EPL, I’m talkin bout the league, but even three outta ten is not what he was getting from the side earlier, with Swansea dropping in the league and Liverpool climbing.
    Thats all i’m sayin!

  47. 47
    avatar workyticket says:

    chuck says:
    February 7, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    “without the owners there are no clubs”

    But many clubs around Europe are either wholly, or partly owned by the fans. Of the five biggest clubs in the world, two (Barcelona and Real Madrid) are wholly owned by fans or “socios” and a third, Bayern Munich, is majority owned by fans. The other two are Manchester United and Arsenal.

  48. 48
    avatar chuck says:

    tunc
    Leave it! , dontcha know, he’s never been wrong in his life.
    Yuk, yuk!

  49. 49
    avatar chuck says:

    Worky
    I was refering to the EPL, you must have noticed, no?
    As for Arsenal and Man. U. being owned by the fans ?
    Go tell that to them.
    If you mean they are investors in the club, then yes.

  50. 50
    avatar workyticket says:

    Chuck, try reading things properly before you make an arse of yourself in future.

  51. 51
    avatar GS says:

    Chuck @44. Can we do like a reverse financial fair play? Fine Citeh for cooking the books with pretend accounting for their stadium advertising and then give it to NUFC because we make no money from Sports Direct on shirts or billboards etc. It is only fair and fatty would make even more dosh.

  52. 52
    avatar tunyc says:

    worky & chuck @ 45 & 46: Ha! Perfect! Exactly the response I was looking for…you two sure you’re not married?

    I have to say that chuck is right about getting afield. Fact is: Swansea’s recent form isn’t too hot.

    And chuck-as someone else who has never been wrong in his own mind I appreciate worky’s dedication to argument, and yours too.

  53. 53
    avatar GS says:

    Chuckles: you never answer when you are wrong. Borini and Coutihno?

  54. 54
    avatar workyticket says:

    tunyc, I’m about as interested in arguing with Chuck as I am in your rather pathetic attempt at shit stirring.

  55. 55
    avatar chuck says:

    IMO
    The owners would be dumb to attempt to impose a wage cap without some sort of quid pro quo.
    The first ones to recognise whats being attempted will of course be the much maligned agents.
    It will be in the courts before you can say Jack Robinson.

    And you can bet your ass wor ex sociopath, will be tweeting and twittering the facts to everyone.
    Right Joey ?

    But i’m sure you will find there are plenty of fans who believe that both agents and players are overpaid.
    Nowt wrong with the owners raking it in, like.

    I’m kinda leary of even mentioning money, as there are legions of Bean Counters, who for some reason are more than concerned about Ashley overspending and take great pleasure in any savings.

    It’s just like Ashley’s recent binge, one reson only, panic.
    Nothing altruistic, purely self interest, spending based solely on a fear of the drop.

    Be interesting to find out exactly what kinda dosh he’s paying and how long the contracts are for.

    Course i’m sure someone will come on to defend the owners position and defame both players and their agents,
    Why i have no idea.

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    avatar chuck says:

    tunc
    cualquier !

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    avatar workyticket says:

    chuck says:
    February 7, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    “I’m kinda leary of even mentioning money, as there are legions of Bean Counters, who for some reason are more than concerned about Ashley overspending and take great pleasure in any savings.”

    Chuck, I think that much of that is about snobbery and aspiration. Many of Ashley’s acolytes want you to believe, and even want themselves to believe that they are au fait with the world of boardrooms and multi million £ deals like Ashley himself, a bit like Ed Harrison with all his tales of when he worked for IBM. It’s the “Emperor’s New Clothes” thing again. Most of ‘em don’t understand what the hell they are rambling on about themselves, they’re just blindly copying what Ashley, Llambias and Pardew are saying without any kind of critical thinking whatsoever.

    On the other side, they still see all of those who disagree with what Ashley is doing to the club as financially illterate dole wallahs who’ll walk around with a bedsheet at the drop of a hat, and will be easy bamboozled by their guff.

    “It’s just like Ashley’s recent binge, one reson only, panic.
    Nothing altruistic, purely self interest, spending based solely on a fear of the drop.

    “Be interesting to find out exactly what kinda dosh he’s paying and how long the contracts are for.”

    They’re on similar contracts to the players previously brought in Chuck, ie 5 1/2 year contracts. I haven’t tried to find anything trustworthy on their salaries. I don’t think your panic buy theory is wrong though. I think they’re willing to gamble and string these deals out for years just to save a few pennies. For instance with Sissoko, they were probably taking a gamble on waiting until the Summer when he’d be available for free, with the “panic” bit being shelling out a couple of million or so now to get him in a few months early because as you keep saying, the club will lose far more substantial sums if the worst happens (again).

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    avatar workyticket says:

    tunyc says:
    February 7, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    “I have to say that chuck is right about getting afield. Fact is: Swansea’s recent form isn’t too hot.”

    That’s where most people get it wrong tunyc. They just look at a moment in time and try to extrapolate everything from that without seeing anything else beyond.

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    avatar jack72 says:

    dont know if anyone has mentioned that Sissoko,Haidara & Mbiwa have been included in wor europa squad.
    i havnt read the all the comments above coz as soon as i see chucks name i scroll down as i’m not intrested in what that mackem has to say coz its always utter bollox or he tries to belittle other users or tries picking arguments wiv Worky (which the cnut never wins)
    so if its been mentioned,my apologies for been a chuck(parrot)

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    avatar workyticket says:

    Aye Jack, I’ve seen it mentioned several times, but I can’t remember if any were on here. I seem to recall that it boiled down to Debuchy v M’Biwa. I picked M’Biwa then Pardew picked M’Biwa so I can’t argue with him for a change! :-)

    I would imagine that he doesn’t want to break up Taylor and Colo in the Premiership just yet, but also sees M’Biwa as another important defender who needs to be eased into the squad somehow to take a more more important role in the fullness of time, especially if/when Colo buggers off.

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    avatar Chuck says:

    Worky @%& #
    Yes we are obviously on the same page in regards to the last subjects covered.

    I just thing the rapidly approaching FFP will provide some fireworks.
    I believe the owners are using it as a means of establishing a salary cap.
    They are obviously not happy paying enormouse salaries,
    (which are based on their own greed) but want the freedom to do as they please without having to reach any agreement with the players, who are the other side of the coin.
    To use the EPL and it’s officials to put into place, something that will personally benefit those clubs in favor, without a positive vote by all clubs in the league, plus the players having no say, in a matter which directly effects them, and no one else, unless it’s the owners figuratively taking money out of their pockets.
    And what is the players association position on this, and do they believe the can survive in office if they give the owners what they want.
    I think not.
    As i said, this will be a fight, which one would expect the Players Association to lead, but IMO, it will be spearheaded by the Agents and end up in the courts.
    Though it gets little press and almost no debate in these blogs.

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    avatar Chuck says:

    Jack

    Why are you so angry.
    Relax pendejo !

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    avatar Chuck says:

    On doing some research on the new Approaching Financial Fair Play rules.

    I find that the following clubs were in fact looking to impliment even more stringent rules.

    Namely Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool and Man. U..

    Basically clubs making a profit and hoping to retain their position of economic dominance, over the smaller clubs.

    Of course there was a difference of opinion with both Man. Citeh and Chelsea, who are basically against resrtictive monetary policies.

    But most voted in favor, looking hopefully at survival and a share of the five billion over the next three years, coupled with a cap on salaries.

    If you figure that one out it means more dosh for the owners, big time (the ones voting)

    Not only that, but i also read that there was a parlimentary inquiry (great! wasting the publics money during a recession) why do they even have a ministry of sport (it’s not fkucin East Germany in the 70’s we are talking about)

    Anyway the threat arose that they would have to impose some kind of fiscally responsible program if the EPL did’nt get it’s act to-gether, fcucin unbelievable.

    Just tell em to go puond salt FFS. and get a real job.

    The one thing that was not mentioned of course, was what the players, the ones that make it all happen and the ones who are about to take a screwing, felt about it.

    I have this feeling there’s an attempt to roll back the relationship between management and player, to where it was over twenty years ago.

    And for both UEFA and the British government, in co-operation with the owners and FA to make it all happen.

    Just because i suspect a plot, does’nt neccessarily make me wrong.

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