Aston Villa vs Newcastle United: The talking points…

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My latest piece on metro.co.uk was published earlier today.

It is my usual look back at some of the talking points from the weekend’s game, so of course, this one takes a look at Newcastle United’s 2-1 victory over Aston Villa on Saturday and is called:

Newcastle United fan’s view: A good day for the Magpies.

Apologies for the rather insipid title but I suspect it was chosen by some spotty intern sub-editor. It certainly wasn’t mine!

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46 Responses to “Aston Villa vs Newcastle United: The talking points…”

  1. 1
    avatar sampdiago says:

    Early days,a villa side lacking luck and variables,I dont care,when we win it is the medication I need,that stops me making the national news for acting out my fantasy of cooking a parrott and fatgut stew.The efforts of the club to silence players and staff from talking about anything,and the obvious attempt of pimping out a kebab for 20 mil.These are the sort of games last season we didnt win,lead only to concede and not level or regain a lead.Benny afro is playing at the same time as cabaye,and they are our most creative players,add sissoko,who now knows what to expect in the premiership and is the Vieira type player we have needed.Remi will get goals as he wants to go to Brazil,santon
    Has beefed up and is fit,Sami has been eating three shredded wheat at breakfast,and goufran seems to have got over his grass allergy and scores the odd goal.While we have until the hull game or until parpoo speaks to the media,or joe-ker reminds us of his pulling power with all the top clubs in the premiership like,Wimbledon,Nottingham forest and man u wensday,I will not slate a players performance,or lack of effort,I will not jump up and down like I am nuts and I will enjoy scum being where they are ment to be,at the bottom.

  2. 2
    avatar GS says:

    Prince of Denmark against Brentan. I predict a few words on here later.

  3. 3
    avatar chuck says:

    Worky

    In regard to your constant denials that you ever mentioned you thought that using a right footed player on the left or vise versa can work very well, as opposed to my theory that it’s detrimental to both the players involved and the side.

    i’m quoting your remarks from Tue. Aug. 20th.

    “No chuck, it can work very well, just watch players like Robben with Beyern Munich & Ronaldo with RM and many other examples , in top teams with top managers and top players.
    It’s Ala mode!

    Which other examples ? and what do you mean by it’s “A la mode” it’s actually exceptions to the rule and your statement is nothing but a attempt to be contrary as usual.

    Well anyway Andy Mack disagreed contributing this from a quote from Ollie Bernard.

    “At left back I needed only touch to get the ball under total control, switch my position and most of the time , I had to take two touches and you rarely get time for that” !

    That and anyone watching either Santon or Jonas bringing the ball forward, will agree they could do much better if they were on the opposite side of the pitch, having the choice of taking the ball too the line as opposed to their inevitable cutting towards the center while on the left, in order to get the ball on their good foot.
    Something everyone is aware of, including every PL defender.

  4. 4
    avatar tunyc says:

    chuck-have you really never heard of wide midfielders playing on the off wing (as we put it in ice hockey)? Seriously, it’s not that novel a concept. Works best when your wide players are looking to shoot rather than distribute from the wings. Not rocket science or even advanced tactics. As for an example: last NUFC match I went to, v. Spurs a few seasons back. Bale injured early so Droopy had Pienaar on the left, Lennon on the right. Enrique had Lennon in his pocket and Pienaar was having a crap game anyway so about 60 minutes in, Floppychops switches them. Result? Injury time, Lennon carries up, Simpson shows him way too much of the inside, he cuts in and scores an equalizer.

    This was a solid match-can complain about the unevenness of the performance but this was the sort of match we found a way to draw/lose last season.

    Random bits: how is that not a penalty? Ridiculous. And to repeat this part of the conundrum: non-calls like that are a part of why players dive.

    Why does Cabaye still take our corners? Whatever is or isn’t going on in the box, his deliveries are consistently poor. Would be better to always play them short.

    What the hell does AP say at halftime? “Alright lads, now I’m going to strangle a kitten in front of you. Plus, you’re all shit.” WTF? I’ve never seen a team as consistently bad to start second halves. What’s really ominous is it looked like Villa knew what to expect and had been told to ATTACK! from the whistle. Not good. Gonna cost us points (again).

  5. 5
    avatar workyticket says:

    Professor Chucklebutty:

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2010/mar/24/the-question-inside-out-wingers

    Jonathan Wilson’s always a good read in my exprience, and you will learn a bit more about tactics and so forth. I highly recommend his book “Inverting the Pyramid: The History of Football Tactics.”

  6. 6
    avatar workyticket says:

    tunyc says:
    September 16, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    “Random bits: how is that not a penalty? Ridiculous. And to repeat this part of the conundrum: non-calls like that are a part of why players dive.”

    tunyc, I seem to recall that Mike Dean does have a little bit of previous for bottling penalty decisions with away teams.

  7. 7
    avatar TOONARMYELITE says:

    Thought it was a pen meself just shoved him over with both arms

  8. 8
    avatar TOONARMYELITE says:

    unless he was trying to shoulder charge him, with both shoulders at the same time, and maybe his arms just got in the way of that lol.

  9. 9
    avatar workyticket says:

    tunyc says:
    September 16, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    “This was a solid match-can complain about the unevenness of the performance but this was the sort of match we found a way to draw/lose last season.”

    The fluency of the passing could do with a bit of practice. We have our share of good technical players and it wasn’t bad but it wasn’t as good as it could have been at times, possibly due to too much Pardewball in the past. Of course though, the fluency was shot to shit last season.

  10. 10
    avatar TOONARMYELITE says:

    <<<<<<<<<<<<< thinks that would of been a huge talking point in here if the scores had finished 1 v 1

  11. 11
    avatar chuck says:

    tunyc

    Are you actually lecturing me about football ?
    Can you tell me exactly what the hell is a wide midfielder playing on the off wing ?

  12. 12
    avatar chuck says:

    Watched the Liverpool vs Swansea game this afternoon, decent game.
    Two sides who play a similar style, for the most a possession game, with quick crisp short passing at it’s core, quite similar to the Arsenal brand.
    I don’t get it how one side is now top of the league, undefeated this season, while the other is lying in thirteenth place.
    As it was Swansea who dominated for the most part during the second half, with our ex winger routledge excelling in a side that was unlucky not to get the three points.
    Certainly Liverpool were happy to hear the final whistle as they appeared to have run out of steam, chasing a side that kept control of the ball and constantly kept them under pressure.
    Lesson learned, we got some tough games coming up, so don’t get carried away with the two wins in a row, could just as easy been two defeats.

  13. 13
    avatar chuck says:

    On seeing a replay of the HBA Clark incident, it was just another case of a ref. with no cojones, afraid to make the call.

  14. 14
    avatar TOONARMYELITE says:

    @ chuck
    agree you see how angry that clark got with afra after he pushed him over, mind if i was the 1 chaseing round after afra for 80 odd mins,might be a bit angry meself lmao

  15. 15
    avatar bob the vid says:

    A fair performance and a great result. Still, for me there was still too many long balls hoofed up field missing out the midfield. What happens when Ben 10 has a bad game and why dosen’t Sissoko use his great pace and run at defenders?

  16. 16
    avatar joe hawkins says:

    Chuck, Makes you wonder where the logic is, When we get rid of someone like Routledge, And keep hold of the Dreadful Jonas.

    It was a stonewall penalty on Saturday, The player made no attempt to go for the ball, And it was a blatant push.
    every season Managers, Pundits, Fans alike, Are continually asking for consistency from Referees.
    Do we get it, Do we f**k!, Week after week you see penalties given, That should never be, And the legitimate one’s are turned down.
    Time to start using the technology, And not just for the debatable goal.
    Who cares if it adds ten minutes to a game, I’m sure the average fan wouldn’t begrudge that time to down another pint!

  17. 17
    avatar Grumpy Old-Toon says:

    As I see it, the disallowed obvious penalty is one in the luck bank for us. At some point in the season I expect we will get a similar decision go against us.

    The main thing is that pro or con decisions of that nature do not stop us winning matches or causing us to lose matches.

    “Football Karma”.

  18. 18
    avatar Grumpy Old-Toon says:

    I should have said a similar decision will go for us not against. Anyway I’m sure you all got the gist of what I said!!

  19. 19
    avatar joe hawkins says:

    Grumpyoldtoon, In all fairness those decisions do tend to even themselves out, Across an entire season.
    Why don’t they just use the same technology they use in Rugby League?
    Then these dodgy decisions would be a thing of the past, And Football will stop being a game of constant injustice.

    Another thing that bugs me, Is when a player is injured, Why don’t they just stop the clock?

  20. 20
    avatar workyticket says:

    When is Pardew’s drivel at it’s worst, when he’s winning? Or when he’s losing?

    We’ve won two games by a goal and he’s in full arrogance mode again with a festival of absolute shite and nonsense.

  21. 21
    avatar pete_toon says:

    Well, I have to say that I’m prepared to give Cabaye the benefit of the doubt. If he really is committed to helping us win matches then I’m prepared to forgive and forget.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10312504/Yohan-Cabaye-apologises-to-Newcastle-fans-and-says-he-is-committed-for-the-season.html

  22. 22
    avatar workyticket says:

    pete_toon says:
    September 17, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    “Well, I have to say that I’m prepared to give Cabaye the benefit of the doubt. If he really is committed to helping us win matches then I’m prepared to forgive and forget.”

    Forgive and forget what, Pete?

    We don’t know for certain what he did yet. Neither Cabaye or anyone from the club has said so we don’t know what he is apologising for. The only thing Pardew has said is that he dropped him from the team against Man City because he felt that his head had been turned.

    It’s f**king bizarre listening to Cabaye apologising for something when everyone at the club (including Cabaye) refuses to say what it is he’s apologising for.

  23. 23
    avatar Grumpy Old-Toon says:

    Worky,
    I suppose the fact that he feels the need to apologise would suggest that he was in the wrong over something, although as you say no one is saying what.

    It would be a good thing if they actually kept any misdemeanours in-house rather than going with the DeCanio school of diplomacy.

  24. 24
    avatar workyticket says:

    Grumpy Old-Toon says:
    September 17, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    “Worky,
    I suppose the fact that he feels the need to apologise would suggest that he was in the wrong over something, although as you say no one is saying what.”

    Well if no-one will say what he’s apologising for, it means absolutely f-all, Grumpy. He might have been in the wrong over something, or he might have been blackmailed into saying it since he lost his place in the French side. We don’t know anything for certain.

  25. 25
    avatar tunyc says:

    chuck-if you want to think of it as a lecture, feel free but when I’ve lectured in the past I was paid for it. I’m not going to waste my energy explaining what I wrote as it’s on a topic you suggested.

    worky @ 20: I pity you. You write about NUFC and therefore must pay attention to what AP says. Ugh. I haven’t actually watched him speak in months. It’s good for my mental health.

    “It’s f**king bizarre listening to Cabaye apologising for something when everyone at the club (including Cabaye) refuses to say what it is he’s apologising for.”

    My thoughts exactly.

  26. 26
    avatar joe hawkins says:

    If Yohan Cabaye had been on strike, He would be training with the kids.
    The whole thing has been total bollox from day one, The only reason he wasn’t playing, Was so he didn’t get injured.
    The sad thing is, The fans are swallowing a lot of this crap, Which is coming from “Joseph Goebbels” himself, A.K.A Alan Pardew.

    People should be questioning this total rubbish, And tissue of lies, Which flows freely from Barrack Road!

  27. 27
    avatar dokky says:

    Sorry never replied other day worky my dog died yesterday i feel fookin horrible hope all good your end anyway mate p.s pardew is still a tosser

  28. 28
    avatar pete_toon says:

    dokky – that’s sh!te news. Sorry to hear it mate – I know I’ll be devastated when our dog dies, so I can only imagine how you feel.

  29. 29
    avatar pete_toon says:

    worky – when I say “forgive and forget” I mean that I’m prepared to wipe the slate clean on this. Whatever’s gone on in this sorry saga is over, and hopefully we can move on – although who knows what he’s actually apologising for. I reckon even Pardew hasn’t got a fooking clue.

  30. 30
    avatar dokky says:

    @pete thanks mate and yeh it fookin broke my heart had him 13 years it not a good feelin

  31. 31
    avatar workyticket says:

    Dokky, I’m really sorry to hear that, I know the feeling.

    I can still remember when my little white Westie escaped and was run over by a bus when I was very young. The same thing happened to my adopted cat, Tiddles, far more recently and I was just as upset as I was when was a bairn.

  32. 32
    avatar joe hawkins says:

    Dokky, Sorry to hear that, That’s why i don’t have pets anymore.
    You get too attached to them, And it’s heart breaking when they die.

  33. 33
    avatar workyticket says:

    Dokky, what kind of dog was he?

  34. 34
    avatar dokky says:

    thanks worky mate he was a german shephard had him for 13 years i cried me eyes out when they put him down called ted :) still got his brother albert tho i dont know what happened he was fine and then started being sick blood took straight down vets and said something had ruptured in his stomach and was best to put him down its f***ing heartbreakin.

  35. 35
    avatar GS says:

    Dokky. It hurts.

    I am still heartbroken from my dog dying a year ago.

  36. 36
    avatar sampdiago says:

    Sorry to hear that dokky.Chin up.

  37. 37
    avatar sirjasontoon says:

    Everton and Newcastle target £18m Doumbia
    Haha I can really see this happening :lol:

    Anyone got GTA5?
    How cool is Chop the dog?
    haha

  38. 38
    avatar sirjasontoon says:

    Hi Dokky didn’t even notice your dog posts…my comments are in no way connected-chin up SJT

  39. 39
    avatar joe hawkins says:

    Pardew understands money will be available for transfers, In January, According to Ryder and “The Chronic”, funny sounds like some “Middle class” indie band!

    Pardew must be thicker than a bull’s lug, If he thinks he can sucker the fans in again.
    True to form, Win a couple of close matches, And he’s acting the hard man again!

  40. 40
    avatar workyticket says:

    According to Ryder and “The Chronic”, funny sounds like some “Middle class” indie band!

    Or a hip-hop band who smoke alot of Marijuana, Joe. In the case of the Chronicle I tend to think of it’s original meaning though, ie a pain or disease which lasts for a long time and won’t go away.

  41. 41
    avatar Grumpy Old-Toon says:

    Been pretty busy the last few days checking out my geneology (spelling?)to see if I am in anyway related to any of our current MP’s, as I quite fancy getting up to £50,000 per year for doing nowt. Unfortunately nothing so far however. Can’t even claim to be a love child of one of them as there are no 90+ age MP’s in standing at present.

    Suppose I’ll just have to continue to manage on my pensions. Probably have to cut down to two holidays a year.

  42. 42
    avatar workyticket says:

    dokky says:
    September 17, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    “thanks worky mate he was a german shephard had him for 13 years i cried me eyes out when they put him down called ted :) still got his brother albert tho i dont know what happened he was fine and then started being sick blood took straight down vets and said something had ruptured in his stomach and was best to put him down its f***ing heartbreakin.”

    Dokky, sorry your comment was blocked for a bit there, it was the “f” word. And thanks for the comment too. I’ll take it as a warning as the quacks have said something like that could happen to me as well if I don’t look after myself.

  43. 43
    avatar workyticket says:

    Grumpy Old-Toon says:
    September 18, 2013 at 11:54 am

    “Suppose I’ll just have to continue to manage on my pensions.”

    You should have put your pension into Sports Direct shares, Grumpy. You’d probably have a helicopter and a vulgar mansion like Ashley if you’d bought them when they were 32p!

  44. 44
    avatar Grumpy Old-Toon says:

    Dokky, commiserations about your dog, it is like losing a member of the family in some ways. We gave up on pets after our last cat decided to go for it’s regular evening stroll along the very busy main road outside where we were living. Daft thing used to actually stop and sit in the middle of the road. It was buried late at night in the garden where another cat and a gerbil (in a bottle, my kids idea) were already buried.

    To show how daft it was we had a visit from a neighbour asking if it was our cat. She went on to explain how it would visit her garden and try to jump up bat the pegs on her rotary washing line. One day she heard this pitiful yowling and came out to find it hanging from the line by it’s claws and spinning around on the aforesaid dryer. At was unharmed but highly affronted as we laughed at it, a real character!

  45. 45
    avatar joe hawkins says:

    Worky, The penny should start to drop for more people, When you have the manager talking about overdraft facilities.
    When do you ever here Fergie or Wenger talking about the financial side, Other than making bids, And what it costs for a player.

    You just knew for a fine fact, Pardew didn’t have the intelligence, To come up with that on his own.
    It was more or less the fat one, Using Pardew as a ventriloquists dummy, To convey his cheap message!

  46. 46
    avatar tunyc says:

    Sorry about your dog, dokky. That sucks. I’m sure he enjoyed his time with you though and don’t have any guilt about ending his pain. As Stephen Hawking recently said, we actually treat animals more humanely than people who we expect to endure excruciating, untreatable discomfort at the insistence of others.

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